[Legolash2o]

Just have a theory... Because i have removed it and it doesn't affect my music whatever and there is also a performance increase when copying files (not using onboard) so i am just wondering if MCS is just needed for onboard. Thanks.

If you DO remove remove Multimedia Class Scheduler, does it affect your music and are you using onboard audio or not.

This post has been edited by LegoLiam™: 25 May 2008 - 04:29 PM

[shahed26]

LegoLiam™, on May 16 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

Just have a theory... Because i have removed it and it doesn't affect my music whatever and there is also a performance increase when copying files (not using onboard) so i am just wondering if MCS is just needed for onboard. Thanks.

If you DO remove remove Multimedia Class Scheduler, does it affect your music and are you using onboard audio or not.

am on server 2008, i did not remove it, but i did disable the service to see the benefits, but the outcome was my creative (x-fi extreme music) sound service was also disabled automatically, so i enabled it again.

[TranceEnergy]

Removed it with vlite. However, if you have it in vista, just disabling it will NOT be good enough. You have to remove the dependency with regedit.
I have tested with both onboard and with x-fi extreme gamer. I find it for my use, best to completely remove it.
It's like qos, just audio. Also latency of sound is improved imho. On a sidenote i also think x-fi isnt worth it if onboard is up to HD standards.

[shahed26]

ok, thanks for that info tranceEnergy, will remove it with vlite and its dependency, and see how it goes.

[TranceEnergy]

shahed26, on May 16 2008, 02:10 AM, said:

ok, thanks for that info tranceEnergy, will remove it with vlite and its dependency, and see how it goes.

NP. I'm interested in hearing your findings with server 2008. I havent tried that.Tho i do remove alot with vlite, so on services side, it should be quite similiar. I remove everything except network. Also you can get rid of needing WMP by using f.ex media connectivity plugin for firefox.
Which works absolutely perfect with VLC Portable. And i also use Portable Firefox. So All i have to do is to run program to set portable firefox as default browser and vlc portable as default media player. Also works great with GOM player, Mplayer For Windows, and heaps more, but those i have tried and works perfectly. *Including* streaming media. But of course, be prepared to do some configurations. Maxthon is easy as it uses the IE core, so if all else fails.. While im at it, have you tried comparing 2d gfx performance in 2008? Use PerformanceTest program. 2003 was 50% faster on xp on that test here.

[Legolash2o]

TranceEnergy, on May 16 2008, 12:59 PM, said:

shahed26, on May 16 2008, 02:10 AM, said:

ok, thanks for that info tranceEnergy, will remove it with vlite and its dependency, and see how it goes.

NP. I'm interested in hearing your findings with server 2008. I havent tried that.Tho i do remove alot with vlite, so on services side, it should be quite similiar. I remove everything except network. Also you can get rid of needing WMP by using f.ex media connectivity plugin for firefox.
Which works absolutely perfect with VLC Portable. And i also use Portable Firefox. So All i have to do is to run program to set portable firefox as default browser and vlc portable as default media player. Also works great with GOM player, Mplayer For Windows, and heaps more, but those i have tried and works perfectly. *Including* streaming media. But of course, be prepared to do some configurations. Maxthon is easy as it uses the IE core, so if all else fails.. While im at it, have you tried comparing 2d gfx performance in 2008? Use PerformanceTest program. 2003 was 50% faster on xp on that test here.

I think ur going off topic lol

@shahed26, i've also got an X-FI XtremeMusic.

[shahed26]

ok guys here are my results. removed "Multimedia Class Scheduler" from server 2008 x64 dvd iso with vlite v1.6 final. the outcome was no problem with audio at all. video clips played normal, live tv (tv tuner card) also played live videos without and problems.

anyways, seriously what are the benefits or removing this? will this affect any games if i was to play games on server 2008? had no time to test a game with "Multimedia Class Scheduler" removed. but hopefully it should be fine.

[shahed26]

LegoLiam™, on May 16 2008, 12:32 AM, said:

i have removed it and it doesn't affect my music whatever and there is also a performance increase when copying files (not using onboard) so i am just wondering if MCS is just needed for onboard. Thanks.

how did you test your file copying performance increase? does it really speed up file copying? does it improve performance overall of systems..

This post has been edited by shahed26: 16 May 2008 - 12:35 PM

[Petrarca]

Did a new Win2008 install with it removed (and a few other things as well).
No problems so far - if anything, it feels snappier

Forgot to mention, I also have an X-Fi Extreme Music Pci-E.

This post has been edited by Petrarca: 16 May 2008 - 05:59 PM

[nuhi]

Hm...seems like you are right. I plugged in Emu1212m and it really does not crackle with MCS removed.
I was using onboard digital out when it does help to keep that component.

Well, one less

[Legolash2o]

shahed26, on May 16 2008, 07:34 PM, said:

how did you test your file copying performance increase? does it really speed up file copying? does it improve performance overall of systems..

According to several websites on Google it mostly affects network copying speed. My normal copying (HDD to HDD) has speeded up a bit too. But the speeds would only of been affected if you have music/video playing while copying a file.

http://courtneymalone.com/2007/08/28/a-not...-network-speed/
http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/a...27/1833290.aspx
http://www.thebits.i...ista-mcs-56.htm

apprently IPv6 also slows down network copying too.

nuhi, on May 17 2008, 01:44 PM, said:

Hm...seems like you are right. I plugged in Emu1212m and it really does not crackle with MCS removed.
I was using onboard digital out when it does help to keep that component.

Well, one less

So your saying you onboard digital out crackles without MCS?

This post has been edited by LegoLiam™: 17 May 2008 - 07:10 AM

[MagicAndre1981]

I must keep MMCS or sound hangs under higher cpu load. I'm using a onbaord Via Soundchip.

[nuhi]

LegoLiam™, yup, as MagicAndre1981 noted as well.

My onboard is Realtek.

This post has been edited by nuhi: 17 May 2008 - 07:34 AM

[Bilar Crais]

nuhi, on May 17 2008, 08:34 AM, said:

LegoLiam™, yup, as MagicAndre1981 noted as well.

My onboard is Realtek.

I had trouble with both Realtek and Nvidia SoundStorm onboard sound. Running an Audigy now; I would think it might be immune from the associated cracking-popping-ticking sound w/o Multimedia Sched

[Legolash2o]

Seems that my theory is correct, it only affects onboard sound if its removed

Anyone agree?

[Petrarca]

LegoLiam™, on May 17 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Seems that my theory is correct, it only affects onboard sound if its removed

Anyone agree?

Yes, looks like it.
The info in vLite should be updated saying that removing mcs only affects onboard sound.

[MagicAndre1981]

LegoLiam™, on May 17 2008, 08:26 PM, said:

Seems that my theory is correct, it only affects onboard sound if its removed

I've also tried it with my old Creative Soundblaster Live! and it also happend with this PCI card.

[Legolash2o]

maybe with just modern cards it can be removed then? lol

[MagicAndre1981]

perhaps. But for me I have to keep it.

[TranceEnergy]

Please note, if you also remove dependency for the windows audio endpoint service, you can stop it and disable it as well.
Audio will still work! The less services required for vista to run properly, the better imho.
I just tested windows sounds themes, and sound themes works ok apparently.

Cool? Perhaps this info could be added to post #1.