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Day-to-day running Win 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM hardware and setup used by members who do it Rate Topic: -----

#121 User is offline   dencorso 

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:24 AM

This topic has been updated!

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Dave-H's, TmEE's #3 and LoneCrusader's #2 machines configurations have been updated. :thumbup


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If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!


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Posted 02 August 2012 - 11:35 AM

Just also noticed that my specs say I'm running PatchMem version 6.0.
I'm actually now running version 7.0.
I've now realised there is a 7.1 so I've contacted Rudolph Loew about an update.

Interesting to see that loblo's second machine is using the same graphics card and driver that I am, but with the AGP aperture set to 64 MB.
If I do that with my system Windows 98 won't load the desktop and just sits permanently on a flashing cursor after the splash screen.
I guess that's probably down to being a different motherboard, or possibly because he's running ME not 98SE.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:29 PM

I forgot about GFX drivers, they're not Omega but Catalyst 6.2, as Omega does not support X series cards.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:10 PM

Fixed!

View PostDave-H, on 02 August 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

Interesting to see that loblo's second machine is using the same graphics card and driver that I am, but with the AGP aperture set to 64 MB. If I do that with my system Windows 98 won't load the desktop and just sits permanently on a flashing cursor after the splash screen. I guess that's probably down to being a different motherboard, or possibly because he's running ME not 98SE.

Both are good guesses. I'd bet on different boards, different maximum possible specs... but Win ME *is* quite different at the lowest level from 98SE, possibly enough to allow such different results, too.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 04:28 AM

View Postdencorso, on 02 August 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Both are good guesses. I'd bet on different boards, different maximum possible specs... but Win ME *is* quite different at the lowest level from 98SE, possibly enough to allow such different results, too.

Yes, that's probably it.
Off topic, but just to mention that Rudolph Loew says there is no point in upgrading from Patchmem 7.0 to 7.1, as functionally they are identical.

Incidentally, my memory spec in post #2 says -
Memory: 4 GiB (4x 1 GiB DIMMs; 3583 MiB available to Win 98SE); 3071 MiB available for Win 98SE

The memory available to 98SE is there twice with different amounts quoted.
Is that a mistake or is it of some significance?
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:31 AM

Fixed!
It's interesting to notice that windows saw 3583 MiB with the ATI Radeon X850 with 256 MiB VRAM video card, but on moving on to a XFX nVidia GeForce 7950GT AGP with 512 MiB VRAM video card (so 256 MiB more) windows started to see 3071 MiB (which is precisely 512 MiB less, twice the VRAM amount added). Then again, the comparison is not perfect because the original video card was an ATI, while the new one is an nVidia...

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:12 AM

View Postdencorso, on 03 August 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Fixed!
It's interesting to notice that windows saw 3583 MiB with the 256 MiB video card, but on moving on to a 512 MiB video card (so 256 MiB more) windows started to see 3071 MiB (which is precisely 512 MiB less, twice the VRAM amount added). Then again, the comparison is not perfect because the original video card was an ATI, while the new one is an nVidia...


With my board the amount of RAM seen by windows is the same whether I use a 7950GT 512Mb or a 7800GS 256MB. I have an ATI X850 Pro 256MB lying around somewhere so I could try to install that and see if there is a difference but I am too lazy right now...

BTW, Dencorso, please don't forget to replace my audio card specs from M-Audio 2496 to ESI Juli@ if you don't mind.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 09:15 AM

View Postdencorso, on 03 August 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Fixed!
It's interesting to notice that windows saw 3583 MiB with the 256 MiB video card, but on moving on to a 512 MiB video card (so 256 MiB more) windows started to see 3071 MiB (which is precisely 512 MiB less, twice the VRAM amount added). Then again, the comparison is not perfect because the original video card was an ATI, while the new one is an nVidia...

I have noticed similar things in my Computers. I assume it has to do with the way the BIOS allocates Memory Mapped I/O Space. My ECS Computer dropped from 3647MiB to 3071 MiB when I installed a new video card.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

View Postloblo, on 03 August 2012 - 06:12 AM, said:

...replace my audio card specs from M-Audio 2496 to ESI Juli@...

Done :)

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 01:00 AM

This topic has been updated!

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ragnargd's machine configuration has been added. :thumbup


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If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 28 December 2012 - 04:15 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

TmEE's #4 machine has been added. :yes:

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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