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Day-to-day running Win 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM hardware and setup used by members who do it Rate Topic: -----

#27 User is offline   dencorso 

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 01:09 AM

I've been doing some tests with RLoew's non-XMS RAMDSK32... Here are the results:

Gigabyte i-RAM hardware ramdisk vs. RLoew's software-only non-XMS RAMDSK32

GB i-RAM 1.5GiB (Win 98 SE) FAT-32
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 © 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read * : 122.1 MB/s
Sequential Write * : 120.4 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 115.1 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 119.4 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 44.3 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 41.0 MB/s

*Test Size : 100 MB
Obs: The GB i-RAM is a SATA-I device, so its theoretic
maximum allowable data transfer is 150.0 MB/s...

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RLoew's RAMDSK32 1.5GiB (Win 98 SE) FAT-16
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 © 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
------------------------------------------------------------------

Sequential Read * : 275.7 MB/s
Sequential Write * : 180.2 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 269.6 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 82.5 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 248.9 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 41.0 MB/s

*Test Size : 100 MB
Obs: using the SYSENTER Method.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 01:09 AM

Now, to provide a comparison with another very reliable software ramdisk (this one works only under the Win NT family OSes) here are some more results:

Gigabyte i-RAM hardware ramdisk vs. Gavotte's software-only NT-only RRAMDISK

GB i-RAM 1.5GiB (Win XP SP3) FAT-32
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 © 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read * : 132.9 MB/s
Sequential Write * : 126.2 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 132.9 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 125.8 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 58.6 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 51.7 MB/s

*Test Size : 100 MB
Obs: The GB i-RAM is a SATA-I device, so its theoretic
maximum allowable data transfer is 150.0 MB/s...

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Gavotte's RRAMDISK 1.5GiB (Win XP SP3) FAT-32
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CrystalDiskMark 2.2 © 2007-2008 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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Sequential Read * : 308.4 MB/s
Sequential Write * : 315.6 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 270.7 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 276.1 MB/s
Random Read 4KB : 36.1 MB/s
Random Write 4KB : 34.9 MB/s

*Test Size : 100 MB
Obs: 1)Gavotte's RRAMDISK.SYS is a WDM device that
only exists after Win XP has fully initialized.
2) RRAMDISK.SYS v. 1.0.4096.5_200811130 was used for this test.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 01:09 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:


RLoew's seventh machine has been added (and it has 8 GiB and a triple-core CPU!!!)

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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  Posted 01 March 2009 - 08:25 AM

View Postdencorso, on Mar 1 2009, 07:09 AM, said:

RLoew's seventh machine has been added (and it has 8 GiB and a triple-core CPU!!!)

Now that's just showing off!
:D

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:16 AM

View PostDave-H, on Mar 1 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

View Postdencorso, on Mar 1 2009, 07:09 AM, said:

RLoew's seventh machine has been added (and it has 8 GiB and a triple-core CPU!!!)

Now that's just showing off!
:D


Not until I figure out how to use all the cores in the Triple Core in Windows 9X.

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 02:30 PM

View Postrloew, on Mar 1 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

View PostDave-H, on Mar 1 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

View Postdencorso, on Mar 1 2009, 07:09 AM, said:

RLoew's seventh machine has been added (and it has 8 GiB and a triple-core CPU!!!)

Now that's just showing off!
:D


Not until I figure out how to use all the cores in the Triple Core in Windows 9X.


That's very interesting to hear.

Any news on the resource expander front btw ?

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  Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:07 PM

View Postrloew, on Mar 1 2009, 05:16 PM, said:

Not until I figure out how to use all the cores in the Triple Core in Windows 9X.

Perhaps then I can get Windows 98 to recognise both of my two physical processors too!
:)

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:30 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #1:

a link to my recent ramdisk performance tests has been added. In case you're intersted here are direct links to them:
in post #27 is Gigabyte i-RAM hardware ramdisk vs. RLoew's software-only non-XMS RAMDSK32, and
in post #28 is Gigabyte i-RAM hardware ramdisk vs. Gavotte's software-only NT-only RRAMDISK.
OK, Gavotte's RRAMDISK runs only on NT-family OSes, so it doesn't relate directly to Win 9x/ME... but since the Gigabyte i-RAM is a hardware designed to look like just another SATA HDD from the OS point-of-view, I can compare
RLoew's RAMDSK32 with the GB i-RAM directly under Win 98SE and can also compare directly Gavotte's RRAMDISK with the GB i-RAM directly under Win XP SP3, and so provide indirect, but correct, comparison between two ramdisks that exist exclusively under each different Windows OS family.

on post #2:

RetroOS's system has been updated.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 04:17 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

geoc's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 12 March 2009 - 01:50 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

halohalo's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 13 March 2009 - 01:14 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

glocK_94's system has been added.

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As of Mar 13, 2009, there are 25 machines, owned by 19 members, running Win 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 04:26 AM

View Postrloew, on Jun 1 2008, 10:40 PM, said:

It is definitely possible. I have actually used 3647MB of RAM with Windows 98 SE using my Patch.


Where can I download your patch from?

Thanks.

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  Posted 22 March 2009 - 08:17 AM

Here you go -

http://rloew1.no-ip.com

It's not free, but worth every penny in my opinion.
(And no, I'm not a personal friend or relative of Rudolph, just a very satisfied customer!)
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Posted 22 March 2009 - 08:20 AM

View PostDave-H, on Mar 22 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

Here you go -

http://rloew1.no-ip.com

It's not free, but worth every penny in my opinion.
(And no, I'm not a personal friend or relative of Rudolph, just a very satisfied customer!)
:yes:


Thank you!

PS: Is this the program mentioned by rloew, or there's another one?

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 11:22 AM

View PostDave-H, on Mar 22 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

Here you go -
http://rloew1.no-ip.com
It's not free, but worth every penny in my opinion.

View Postcannie, on Mar 22 2009, 11:20 AM, said:

Thank you!
PS: Is this the program mentioned by rloew, or there's another one?
There is no other! It's the one and only RAM Limitation Patch! :thumbup
BTW, if you had read post #1 looking for it, you'd've found it. The link is there, among the last few lines... :whistle:

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View PostDave-H, on Mar 22 2009, 04:17 PM, said:

(And no, I'm not a personal friend or relative of Rudolph, just a very satisfied customer!) :yes:
The same goes for me: I know him only through the internet. However, since we have been discussing Win 9x/ME here for a long time now, and across many threads, by now I do consider RLoew among my MSFN friends, and have his posts in very high regard. :yes:

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 12:46 PM

View Postdencorso, on Mar 22 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

There is no other! It's the one and only RAM Limitation Patch! :thumbup


I was sure I had read it before, but I could not remember where.

Thanks!

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 01:03 PM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

frankminek's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 06:12 AM

View Postdencorso, on Mar 24 2009, 01:03 PM, said:

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

frankminek's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!


I'm considering the convenience of increasing memory to 2GB.

Is rloew's patch enough for it or it is needed to do anything more?

Thanks!

BTW I wonder why this thread is not placed as important so that it may be found easily by any visitor of this forum. I had difficulties to reach it because it was 5 pages behind the current one.

IMHO this is one of the most relevant things in this forum looking towards the future use of Windows 98.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:35 AM

View Postseaweed, on May 24 2009, 08:12 AM, said:

I'm considering the convenience of increasing memory to 2GB.

Is rloew's patch enough for it or it is needed to do anything more?

Thanks!


My Patch will support up to 4GB of RAM without other support.

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 11:47 AM

View Postrloew, on May 24 2009, 10:35 AM, said:

My Patch will support up to 4GB of RAM without other support.

Thank you for your answer, rloew, and thank you for your excellent work giving this opportunity to all us who know the real value of Windows 98!

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