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Day-to-day running Win 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM hardware and setup used by members who do it Rate Topic: -----

#47 User is offline   dencorso 

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 02:06 PM

View Postseaweed, on May 24 2009, 09:12 AM, said:

BTW I wonder why this thread is not placed as important so that it may be found easily by any visitor of this forum. I had difficulties to reach it because it was 5 pages behind the current one.

IMHO this is one of the most relevant things in this forum looking towards the future use of Windows 98.

Thanks seaweed!
This topic is not itself pinned but threre is a pinned pointer to it... If you go to Important / "Stickified" / Pinned Windows 98/98 SP1/98 SE/ME Topics, you'll find a pointer to it as the last item in section "Supported Software, Games + Hardware". And I've put a pointer to it on my own signature file also, to make it even easier to find. I know it's not perfect, but it's the best I was able to do, up to now.


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Posted 28 May 2009 - 10:43 AM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

LoneCrusader's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 11:10 AM

OS: Windows 98SE - RAM with HIMEMX
Memory 1 GB RAM (PC133 2x Kingston 512 MB)
Motherboard: Asus CUBX-E/L (Intel 82440BX)
CPU: Intel Pentium IIIE, 700 MHz (7 x 100)
Video card: nVidia GeForce FX 5200 (128 MB; AGP 2x)

config.sys: (for use with xRayeR)
devicehigh=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.EXE /NUMHANDLES=64 /METHOD:FAST /VERBOSE
(HIMEM.EXE is a renamed HIMEMX.EXE, for use with xRayeR's Safe Mode patch)
system.ini: ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
MaxPhysPage=488FFh
MaxFileCache=261120
Chunksize=4096
VCACHE.VxD: original 4.10.0.2222
VMM.VXD: original 4.10.0.2226
IO.SYS: patched with xRayeR's (Safe Mode)

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:48 PM

This topic has been updated!

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on post #2:

bristols' system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 26 June 2009 - 11:07 AM

I just finished writing a SDK to allow Programmers to use 64-Bit RAM in their programs. This will provide access to the last ~1GB of RAM on 4GB Systems.
On larger systems, such as my 8GB system (see list at start of thread), individual Programs are limited to 2GB, but collectively they could use 5GB.

A modified version could be used to access the 32-Bit RAM not used by people who use the MaxPhysPage workaround.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 02:22 PM

This topic has been updated!

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on post #2:

Kwibus' system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:29 PM

View Postdencorso, on Jul 7 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

Kwibus' system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!


Hi dencorso,

I have currently 3 Systems running with Win98SE using more than 1GB:

1.) OS: Windows 98SE German with SP2.1d
Memory: 4 GB RAM (DDRII-1066 - 2x 2 GB Corsair Dominator XM2)
Motherboard: Asrock AliveDual-SataII
CPU: Phenom 940
Video card: Leadtek 7950gt (256 MB; PCIe)
config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.EXE /NUMHANDLES=64 /VERBOSE
(HIMEM.EXE is a renamed HIMEMX.EXE, for use with xRayeR's Safe Mode patch)
autoexec.bat: no relevant entries
system.ini:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
MaxPhysPage=40000 ; 1 GB
MaxFileCache=393216 ;


2.) OS: Windows 98SE German with SP2.1d
Memory: 2 GB RAM (DDRII-800 - 2 x 1GB Corsair Dominator)
Motherboard: Asrock 4coreDual-Sata2 R2.0
CPU: Pentium Dual Core 5200 at 220 MHz/2.75 GHz
Video card: nvidia 7900gs noname (256 MB; PCIe)
config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.EXE /NUMHANDLES=64 /VERBOSE
autoexec.bat: no relevant entries
system.ini:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
MaxPhysPage=40000 ; 1 GB
MaxFileCache=393216 ;

3) OS: Windows 98SE German with SP2.1d
Memory: 2 GB RAM (DDR-400 - 4 x 1GB ?different suppliers)
Motherboard: Dell GX270
CPU: Pentium 4 3.4 GHz Prescott
Video card: nvidia 7900gt noname (256 MB; AGP; 700MHz)
config.sys:
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.EXE /NUMHANDLES=64 /VERBOSE
autoexec.bat: no relevant entries
system.ini:
ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1
MaxPhysPage=40000 ; 1 GB
MaxFileCache=393216

Thanks for your suggestions
cooksy

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:42 PM

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

cooksy's three systems have been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 04:19 PM

Please Edit my Computer entry Rloew(7) with the following:

Memory: 8 GiB (4x 2GiB DIMMs; 3327 MiB available to Win 98SE; 4736 MiB available to RAMDISKs and 64-Bit Memory SDK; 128 MiB for Video)
Video Card: NVIDIA FX5200
DEVICE=C:\HIMEMEX.SYS /S /V ; used with RAMDSK64 and 64-Bit Memory SDK.
RAMDSK64 P: 786432 (Maximum SWAP File size in this configuration); one of RLoew's non-XMS RAMDISKs
RAMDSK64 X: 2056320 (2GB FAT16 Partition); one of RLoew's non-XMS RAMDISKs
RAMDSK64 Y: 2056320 (2GB FAT16 Partition); one of RLoew's non-XMS RAMDISKs
Remaining 64-Bit RAM reserved for 64-Bit RAM and Multi-Core SDKs.
vmm32.vxd (real mode), vcache.vxd, vmm.vxd: 4.10.0.2222 with RAM Limitation Patch 6.2 (with /M and /P Options)


All other lines remain the same.

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Posted 31 December 2009 - 11:15 PM

Done! Which nVidia driver are you using?

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Posted 01 January 2010 - 01:08 AM

View Postdencorso, on Jan 1 2010, 12:15 AM, said:

Done! Which nVidia driver are you using?


I use the 81.98 Driver. The 5200 Video Card works with the 81.98 Driver without the shutdown problem that occurs with the 6200 Card.

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Posted 08 February 2010 - 07:02 PM

This topic has been updated!

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piikea's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 01:58 PM

View Postdencorso, on Feb 8 2010, 06:02 PM, said:

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

piikea's system has been added.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!
The post #2 link redirects to MSFN main page.
I believe this link (still) works:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showto...118097&st=1

Looks like MSFN php forum scripts need updating or html name redirect needs to be re-enabled.
Topic name html redirects do not work anymore [or are now disabled by admins (?)].
Example:
http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=118097
does not redirect to:
http://www.msfn.org/board/Day-to-day-runni...-t-t118097.html
as it used to, instead redirects to MSFN main page. :(
This results in a lot of lost links throughout the forums.
This occured before, that's why I usually keep the "index.php?showtopic=xxxxxxx" notation @ my site for all MSFN links, it works 100%.

HTH

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Posted 10 February 2010 - 09:45 PM

My bad! :blushing:
Thanks a lot for the heads up, MDGx! :thumbup
While aware this issue exists, I had sanitized just posts #1 and #2. :}
Now I've sanitized the whole thread, so I hope all links go to the intended locations, from now on.

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Posted 13 February 2010 - 09:18 AM

View Postdencorso, on Feb 10 2010, 08:45 PM, said:

My bad!
Thanks a lot for the heads up, MDGx!
While aware this issue exists, I had sanitized just posts #1 and #2.
Now I've sanitized the whole thread, so I hope all links go to the intended locations, from now on.
No prob. ;)
Glad to help.

I wish I had more time to read about the Invision BB software + php scripts updates.

Also, maybe one of us can suggest to the admins to implement a periodical notification system for all mods [i.e. PM the updated forum topic] about such changes, so we can "sanitize" the threads, and make all forum links work properly.
Oh well... too much to do, too lil time. ;(

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 04:50 PM

I've been experiencing (seemingly) a "memory leak" since running 1GB of RAM. Sometimes it occurs over time, other times it can happen within a few minutes. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Posted 01 June 2010 - 05:34 PM

Since you really have 1.25 GiB and use Win ME, try adding to your system.ini:
MaxPhysPage=50000 ; 1.25 GiB
Read this: Offler on MaxPhysPage
I'm suggesting you just put a directive limiting the available RAM to all you've got, which should be perfectly useless, but seems to be of help, both in what Offler reported and in my own experience, although I did not investigate it further at all, and both Offler and I observed this on 98SE.

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 06:15 PM

This topic has been updated!

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on post #2:

Various minor updates and corrections.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 03:58 PM

View Postdencorso, on 01 June 2010 - 05:34 PM, said:

Since you really have 1.25 GiB and use Win ME, try adding to your system.ini:
MaxPhysPage=50000 ; 1.25 GiB
Read this: Offler on MaxPhysPage
I'm suggesting you just put a directive limiting the available RAM to all you've got, which should be perfectly useless, but seems to be of help, both in what Offler reported and in my own experience, although I did not investigate it further at all, and both Offler and I observed this on 98SE.


I made the change but I don't see any improvement. It is still being slow in general & internet speeds are slower - 1/3 to 2/3's of what they should be. There could be other causes for that but it has just been since adding RAM. RAM is recognized but I swear it doesn't seem to be "being used". Idk of any way to check it's utilization or not.....

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 03:43 AM

Try Japheth's VWin32 Memory Status. But observe that increasing the RAM above 512 MiB should not increase the internet or overal speed noticeably. It'll widen your ability to handle large bmps and other graphics, and large data files in general. But it oughtn't harm your speed either... To establish it for sure, define or select some benchmarks of your choice, run them, then pluck out one of the RAM sticks and run them again. Compare the benchmarks results, if nothing changes, then it's not the RAM. Observe that you don't need to reconfigure the OS, since it'll work OK with less RAM, with the same settings used for more RAM. After you're conviced it's not the RAM, then put back the temporarily removed stick.

Note: Link's now fixed, thanks to Dave-H! :thumbup

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