[MDGx]

dencorso, on Feb 10 2010, 08:45 PM, said:

My bad!
Thanks a lot for the heads up, MDGx!
While aware this issue exists, I had sanitized just posts #1 and #2.
Now I've sanitized the whole thread, so I hope all links go to the intended locations, from now on.

No prob.
Glad to help.

I wish I had more time to read about the Invision BB software + php scripts updates.

Also, maybe one of us can suggest to the admins to implement a periodical notification system for all mods [i.e. PM the updated forum topic] about such changes, so we can "sanitize" the threads, and make all forum links work properly.
Oh well... too much to do, too lil time. ;(

[piikea]

I've been experiencing (seemingly) a "memory leak" since running 1GB of RAM. Sometimes it occurs over time, other times it can happen within a few minutes. Has anyone else experienced this?

[dencorso]

Since you really have 1.25 GiB and use Win ME, try adding to your system.ini:
MaxPhysPage=50000 ; 1.25 GiB
Read this: Offler on MaxPhysPage
I'm suggesting you just put a directive limiting the available RAM to all you've got, which should be perfectly useless, but seems to be of help, both in what Offler reported and in my own experience, although I did not investigate it further at all, and both Offler and I observed this on 98SE.

[dencorso]

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

Various minor updates and corrections.

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

[piikea]

dencorso, on 01 June 2010 - 05:34 PM, said:

Since you really have 1.25 GiB and use Win ME, try adding to your system.ini:
MaxPhysPage=50000 ; 1.25 GiB
Read this: Offler on MaxPhysPage
I'm suggesting you just put a directive limiting the available RAM to all you've got, which should be perfectly useless, but seems to be of help, both in what Offler reported and in my own experience, although I did not investigate it further at all, and both Offler and I observed this on 98SE.

I made the change but I don't see any improvement. It is still being slow in general & internet speeds are slower - 1/3 to 2/3's of what they should be. There could be other causes for that but it has just been since adding RAM. RAM is recognized but I swear it doesn't seem to be "being used". Idk of any way to check it's utilization or not.....

[dencorso]

Try Japheth's VWin32 Memory Status. But observe that increasing the RAM above 512 MiB should not increase the internet or overal speed noticeably. It'll widen your ability to handle large bmps and other graphics, and large data files in general. But it oughtn't harm your speed either... To establish it for sure, define or select some benchmarks of your choice, run them, then pluck out one of the RAM sticks and run them again. Compare the benchmarks results, if nothing changes, then it's not the RAM. Observe that you don't need to reconfigure the OS, since it'll work OK with less RAM, with the same settings used for more RAM. After you're conviced it's not the RAM, then put back the temporarily removed stick.

Note: Link's now fixed, thanks to Dave-H!

[Dave-H]

Just a quick note.
That download link doesn't work.
It should be http://japheth.de/Download/VWin32.zip
It appears to be case sensitive, vwin32.zip won't work!

[TmEE]

I've been having no success getting my setup with with over 1GB of RAM, it works perfectly fine with 1GB and less, but once I add another 512MB I'll get "not enough memory" error on bootup. I have installed the VCACHE fix and set MaxPhysPage to 60000 (should be 1.5GB.... ???) if that matters, but so far I have had no success.

[dencorso]

OK, if you are using Xeno86's modded VCache.VxD, you should set MaxPhysPage to 40000, not 60000, and it should then work. You can have as much RAM as you want, but you cannot let Windows detect more than about 1152 MiB at most, unless you use RLoew's RAM Limitation Patch. Without it, MaxPhysPage=48000 is about the highest you can go, but you should start with 40000 or even 38000, and then set it a little higher by steps, until you get the "not enough memory" error again, and then lower it a little. Read again post #2, concentrating on users that don't use the RAM Limitation Patch and have Win 98SE. For Win ME, the maximum possible value is higher. Now, the remaining RAM that Win 98SE cannot use may be used for a ramdisk, using XMSDSK, so that all the RAM gets put to use. Good luck!

[TmEE]

Ok, finally I got this running with more than 1GB of RAM

I tweaked the MaxPhysPage to the max and its 48DCB, which gives 1164MB of RAM seen by windows

[gerislamico]

dencorso my language is Spanish
By several explication in problem, in spanish its in http://multingles.net/docs/jmt/512.htm
Is it correct information?
Thank You

[dencorso]

Mostly, yes. And it'll work for installation.
But, after installation is over, one can set those parameters differently:
MaxPhysPage=48000 (= 1152 MiB ) is about the highest one can go with Win 9x, while, for Win ME, the highest one can go up to is MaxPhysPage=7CB00 (= 1995 MiB ), but in either case one should increase the MaxPhysPage value by steps, until one gets the "not enough memory" error again, and then lower it a little...
And experience has shown that MaxFileCache=393216 (= 384MiB) is good enough for most users, there's no need to set it to 524288 (= 512MiB).

[dencorso]

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

risk_reversal's system has been added: and we've reached the landmark of 40 machines!

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

[Dave-H]

Hi Den!

You can update my entry, as I have changed my graphics card.
It's now an ATI Radeon X850, with 256 MB memory.
The AGP aperture is now set to 32 MB.
This has resulted in the memory available to Windows 98SE going up to 3583 MB.
Still runs blazingly fast and stable!

This post has been edited by Dave-H: 19 March 2011 - 06:27 AM

[dencorso]

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

loblo's system has been added;
Dave-H's system has been updated.

One update and two new machines in 24h is great!
Thanks, guys!

Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

[dencorso]

wsxedcrfv, on 28 March 2011 - 10:58 PM, said:

[...] If there's anything else I can do (that's freely available) that will get win98 to see more or this memory - let me know.

No, there isn't, sorry! Quouting myself from other posts:

dencorso, on 10 November 2010 - 09:06 PM, said:

[...] MaxPhysPage=48000 (= 1152 MiB ) is about the highest one can go with Win 9x, while, for Win ME, the highest one can go up to is MaxPhysPage=7CB00 (= 1995 MiB ), but in either case one should increase the MaxPhysPage value by steps, until one gets the "not enough memory" error again, and then lower it a little...
And experience has shown that MaxFileCache=393216 (= 384MiB) is good enough for most users, there's no need to set it to 524288 (= 512MiB).

dencorso, on 23 August 2010 - 06:51 PM, said:

[...] The ability to deal with 1150 MiB for 98SE vs 1995 MiB for ME is hardcoded in VMM.VxD and the VMM.VxD from ME cannot be coerced to work with 98SE, nor vice-versa.

So, to go beyond that, you *need* RLoew's one-and-only RAM Limitation Patch.

Now, an intersting fact is that, without the RAM Limitation Patch, you actually don't need HIMEMX with up to 1.5 GiB of RAM, and that leads to perfectly stable setups, while 2 GiB or more won't even boot, in most cases, whithout using HIMEMX or a RAMDISK to hide part of the RAM, and even so, most setups are not very stable, although there are some exceptions, reported in the list, in post #2.

On the other hand, you can add both the MaxPhysPage and MaxFileCache to SYSTEM.CB (Usher's Method) *and* add xRayeR's patch to regain the ability to access Safe Mode, with > 1.5 GiB of physical RAM installed (see post #1, for more details). Now, if you intend to keep using the machine with 2 GiB, not just do it as a temporary experiment, do PM me its specs in the format used in the list (as soon as you deem your configuration definitive) and, of course, I'll add it to the list, in post #2.

[dencorso]

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

submix8c's new system configuration has been added;


Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

[dencorso]

This topic has been updated!

What's New?

on post #2:

RLoew's #2 machine has been updated. Now it is the new RAM record holder for 9x/ME: 16 GiB RAM onboard!


Let's keep the list up-to-date:
If you are using 9x/ME with more than 1 GiB RAM, do PM me your info and you shall be added to the list!

[Dave-H]

dencorso, on 02 May 2011 - 09:59 PM, said:

RLoew's #2 machine has been updated. Now it is the new RAM record holder for 9x/ME: 16 GiB RAM onboard!

Now that's just showing off!