[CoffeeFiend]

I always keep an eye on stats (browsers and such), and I just noticed some changes today with the latest hitslink stats.

Last month, NT4 had 0.68%, Linux had 0.68% too, and all of Win9x combined had 0.76%.

This month, NT4 sits at 0.69%, Win9x (95/98/ME combined) went down by 10% again to settle at 0.69%, tying place with NT4, and Linux went up to 0.8% (17% increase), placing it above the other two.

Linux is growing pretty fast. If it continues at this pace, it should overpass Win2k in 6 months to a year (Win2k should be around 1.5% or less by then), and eventually Mac OS Classic too.

Meanwhile, Vista goes up by about a percent or so per month, and XP down by one too (Vista is eating away at XP's market share very quickly)
The same seems to happen to MacIntel and Mac OS classic (users of the new replacing users of the old).

Edit: changed thread title to something more fitting

[CoffeeFiend]

Quick update! And this month, with pretty pictures

Market share, Vista/XP/Win2k:

The total stays at a steady 90% (give or take 0.5%). Win2k is dropping very fast (hard to see on that curve though, you'll see it far better in the next graph). And XP is quickly being replaced by Vista (XP and Vista should tie at ~45% in a couple years)

Market share, Win2k, NT, Win9x and Linux:

Linux surpassed Win9x and NT, still rising, Win2k dropping very fast. At the current speeds, Linux will overtake Win2k in under a year.

Same thing, but more representative of Win9x versions usage (not grouped), but more cluttered:


And a "zoomed up" version of the bottom 1% to see the Win9x & Linux trends better:

Linux is on a steady rise, and Win9x usage still dropping very fast.

At the current speeds (% of market share change over the 19 months graphed):
-Linux should be up to 1% in about 6 months to a year
-Win2k is going to go down to 1% or less within a year
-combined Win9x market share down to basically nothing at all within a year (down there with Web TV)

[Tarun]

At least there are some 9x users who are stepping up from a dated and obsolete OS. Though updating to a better Windows wouldn't hurt

[CoffeeFiend]

Yet another update.

XP's market share dropped below 70% (still being replaced by Vista quickly).

Win9x market share still dropping real fast (~10% of their user base per month), and Linux growing even faster. Another month like this, and Linux will have TWICE the market share of Win9x!

[CaptainStacks]

I've noticed that Windows 2000 has really been dropping in usage as of late.

More power to Linux!

[CoffeeFiend]

Yeah, Win2k has lost almost half its user base in a year. They're down to 1.x%, and are going to be sub-1% in less than a year.

Combined Win9x dropped down to 0.54% last month, and it'll be under a half percent this month. In like 6 months from now, it just might be below 0.1%.

Linux is on a quick rise percentage-wise, but overall the absolute numbers are still fairly small (sub-1%). It's easy to gain a large percentage when you have such a small user base. The new Intel Macs gained as 2.5x as much users in the last year as Linux has in the past 17 years combined... So it's still not a very big increase when you look at the big picture. I think a lot of people are trying Linux, then going back to Windows...

XP is soon going to be down to ~65%, and Vista should be up to ~20% within a couple months.

I'll update the pics next month (they haven't changed a whole lot this month, same overall big picture, small changes in percentages). I just noticed I screwed up the dates on the last pic... Oh well.

This post has been edited by crahak: 11 October 2008 - 12:46 PM

[CoffeeFiend]

Updated graph!


Linux took a BIG nosedive (a lot of people must be giving up on it, I can see why ). It's still 40% higher than Win9x's though (not that 40% more than a very small number means much). We'll see if it goes back up next month.

Win9x market share is exactly at 1/2% and people are still abandoning that sinking ship real fast.

The iPhone now has a bigger market share than Win98 or ME or 95. Another couple months like that and it'll tie with Win9x combined.

Vista going to hit 20% next month, XP slowly getting closer to 65%.

Also, Firefox market share is still on the rise (hit 20% twice in October), Chrome's market share finally settled at 0.7% or so just like Opera (IE8 beta is already close to beating them -- says a lot!)

[bj-kaiser]

could it be that the Linux nosedive has something to do with the rise of netbooks?
I could come up with this explanation: People bought a netbook, noticed "oh crap, it doesnt look like Windows" and installed their (legit?) copy of XP on it (or Vista for the curious ones) or even returned the machines simply "because it doesn't look and feel like Windows".

[CoffeeFiend]

I thought about that one too. But the number of netbooks out there is likely quite low when you look at the big picture i.e. the millions of existing desktops & laptops (so low that I have yet to see one). I doubt it could really affect numbers that much. I dunno. It'll be interesting to see if the number bounces back up next month or continues to drop.

[CoffeeFiend]

I decided to change the scale this month, the top of the chart (max) is now 1.5%.

Combined Win9x market share dropped below 0.5% and just might be below the iPhone's next month (it's already higher than any specific Win9x "flavor", just not all of them combined yet).

Linux has mostly gone back up to its previous position, and has about 75% more users than all Win9x combined. It had dropped significantly last month, but it's back up over the NT4 market share again.

I've been excluding NT4 from the pic for clarity, and since it's mostly an horizontal line at ~0.7%, but next month, we'll get a newcomer to this picture: Win2k. It would have been here if I didn't reduce the max to 1.5% (it's at 1.58% right now).

Also, XP hit below 2/3rds, and vista broke the 20% mark. Eventually we'll see Win7 (betas or RTM) on there too...

At the current rates, all Win9x combined will be down to 0.01% total (rounded up) by 2010 (only 13 months away). By then, Win2k should be around 0.25%, and Linux over 1%. XP around 50%, Vista around 30%. But eventually Win7 will be out, and it'll start replacing XP & Vista boxes...

This post has been edited by crahak: 30 November 2008 - 11:58 PM

[GrofLuigi]

What about us GoogleBots?

I always spoof it because it lets me enter far more pages.

GL

[CoffeeFiend]

Year-end update!



I added Win2k, we can clearly see where the curve is heading: towards the bottom, with all it's win9x "friends" and NT too (which hit 0.34% this month -- a new record low)
Combined Win9x market share and the iPhone both tied at 0.44%!
Linux's market share is now nearly double of Win9x's -- not that their growth is fast at all: Macs gained more users last month alone than there are Linux users altogether! (says a lot, don't it?)
Vista still climbing, XP still dropping...
Trends aren't changing much overall.

Other news? Yes! Browsers:

Google is telling IE6 (yuck!) users to switch to better, non-outdated browsers for gmail (news here). IE6 having ~20% left, we can expect that to have a noticeable drop quite soon (Firefox should go up a bit, so will IE7 -- especially in the corporate world). All web designers and developers rejoice!
Opera still stable at 0.7%... No signs of it ever increasing.
Chrome is up to 1%, and might go up because of gmail
IE 8, despite still being beta, is already up to 0.82%, which is more than the current versions of Opera and Chrome.

This post has been edited by crahak: 02 January 2009 - 12:28 AM

[Dude111]

Tarun, on Aug 2 2008, 12:23 PM, said:

At least there are some 9x users who are stepping up from a dated and obsolete OS.

Yes but 98 is one of the BEST ever released

[CoffeeFiend]

Dude111, on Jan 13 2009, 02:47 PM, said:

Yes but 98 is one of the BEST ever released

Good joke! Totally hilarious

Edit: btw, Vista will hit 100x the market share of Win98 in a few days, and it'll be up to like 300:1 within 6 months

This post has been edited by crahak: 13 January 2009 - 07:35 PM

[cluberti]

Actually, for it's time, Win98 (especially SE) really was the best OS out there, by far. However, as time has moved on, the NT-based OSes since XP have brought a lot more security and hardware and device usability to Windows than the 9x platform could offer during it's run. At this time in history, however, Apple's OS is at least a viable alternative to Windows, which it wasn't during the time that the 9x platform was dominant (linux still continues to be ignored by the world public at large, even with the inroads Ubuntu has seemed to have made, so I don't include that as a *real* alternative for most people).

[CoffeeFiend]

@cluberti: *was* is the keyword here (and even then, that's rather arguable). By today's standards, it's absolute crap though.

Anyhow. Same stuff this month...

Win95 stopped being rounded up to 0.01%, so it's now below 0.005%, and bundled in "Unknown".
Win98 dropped much like usual (lost ~15% of its users last month). Ditto for WinME.
That makes combined Win9x market share about 1/3 of 1% (and still dropping quite fast).
Win2k down a bit too.
Win 7 just appeared on the map, and sits at 0.1% (not that bad for a 1 month old beta of a unreleased OS I guess)
Linux still stuck around the same 0.8% or so
Vista up a bit, XP down a bit... (both by 1.x % like usual)
Vista being pretty much 2 years old now day for day (gen avail was jan 30th 2007), and it gained 22% of the market share since then (close to a steady 1%/month). XP dropped by 22% since too.

Firefox gone up a bit, IE 8 is still climbing slowly (0.9%-ish, IE 7 also up a bit, IE6 dropping fast), Chrome around the same (1%-ish), and Opera way behind as always.

New pic as usual.

This post has been edited by crahak: 01 February 2009 - 02:52 AM

[Redhatcc]

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.asp...dt=1&qpct=6

gooo iPhone


edit: i just saw how far down Opera was... 0.13% above Netscape.

i did not expect that lol

This post has been edited by Redhatcc: 14 February 2009 - 06:09 PM

[cluberti]

Redhatcc, on Feb 14 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.asp...dt=1&qpct=6

gooo iPhone


edit: i just saw how far down Opera was... 0.13% above Netscape.

i did not expect that lol

Why do you think they're so hard-up to get their browser included in Windows? It's obvious when you see it in black and white - they care less about Microsoft's practices than they do about trying to get their product out to the masses. If people won't choose it, they'll lean on the EU to try and get Microsoft to force it on them. Sounds surprisingly like the behavior of the company they accuse of doing the same 15 years ago, no???

[CoffeeFiend]

cluberti, on Feb 15 2009, 10:52 AM, said:

Why do you think they're so hard-up to get their browser included in Windows?

Because no one wants of it, and that's the only way it'll be installed on any computers.

Most people do know about other browsers (once upon a time, most people used Netscape). And seeing Firefox's current market share (not counting those who tried it, but didn't like it), obviously a large number of people know there is "something else" they can use. They've been trying to get people to use their app for over a dozen years, they're giving it away, and yet their market share is still well below 1% and pretty much flat lined/not showing any increase. People are overwhelmingly choosing spyware-infested browsers like Chrome over it even... Even Netscape 6 has faster growth! I think at this point we can safely say no one wants of it.

Even Linux on the desktop has more users, and that's saying a lot. Especially when we can already see Linux as failing quite badly in the adoption area. Macs grew an additional 2.17% of the market share in the last 6 months. Meanwhile, Linux went up by 0.01%. When the people abandoning Windows overwhelmingly chose another closed-source, proprietary, non Free platform that's just as expensive as Windows, even when it means you can only buy [pricey] hardware from a single vendor (hardware vendor lock-in -- with rather poor choices too) over the one you've been giving away for many years... By a ratio of 217 to 1, you know there's a real problem with your product.

If Microsoft didn't exist, I wonder who they'd be blaming for their failures. Meanwhile, other companies manage to do quite well regardless (e.g. Apple) and aren't complaining about MS funnily.

[CoffeeFiend]

Quick update. Not much new, same trends as before pretty much. New pic:



Edit: new pic with a scale of 100%, kind of paints the overall picture better IMO, even though you can't really see anything at the bottom: