[ilko_t]

Thanks for getting back. Have you tried 0.4.3-2008-05-14 ?

FYI USB_multiboot uses grub4dos as well, just an older version.

I decided to use newer versions as grub4dos is constantly developed and many bugs have been fixed since 0.4.3. Hopefully soon we will have a stable 0.4.4.

edit: other download links for older grub4dos versions:
http://download.gna.org/grub4dos/
http://grub4dos.jot.com/WikiHome

This post has been edited by ilko_t: 26 October 2008 - 02:31 PM

[David McMahon]

** Edit found it ***

http://download.gna.org/grub4dos/grub4dos-...-2008-08-08.zip

Found this one works

This post has been edited by David McMahon: 26 October 2008 - 02:46 PM

[junksmi]

ilko_t, on Oct 26 2008, 03:28 PM, said:

Thanks for getting back. Have you tried 0.4.3-2008-05-14 ?
FYI USB_multiboot uses grub4dos as well, just an older version.

Thanks for letting me know - re-searched that USB_multiboot grldr looking for "grub4dos", and it turns out it is GRUB4DOS 0.4.3 2008-05-07 - and edited previous post #140

Otherwise, I re-checked with grldr from http://nufans.net/gr...-2008-05-14.zip, and can confirm it works.

Thanks again, and keep up the great work Cheers ...

PS:

"David McMahon" said:

Where can I get Multi_Boot_10?

Here: Install XP from USB - Boot Land (USB_MultiBoot_10.zip)
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...c=4900&st=0

PSS:

"David McMahon" said:

http://download.gna.org/grub4dos/grub4dos-...-2008-08-08.zip
Found this one works

Thanks - it seems it works for me too, I got it from http://nufans.net/gr...-2008-08-08.zip though..

This post has been edited by junksmi: 26 October 2008 - 02:57 PM

[David McMahon]

Thanks now got XP setup going, now how do I add Disk Drivers It can't see my SATA 120GB in my Compaq C350EU laptop

[ilko_t]

junksmi, on Oct 26 2008, 01:42 PM, said:

...

08-08-2008 was giving problems on other systems...
Please report to grub4dos developers, including what versions you used, your motherboard model and description of the error:
http://www.boot-land...hp?showforum=66

David McMahon, on Oct 26 2008, 02:09 PM, said:

Thanks now got XP setup going, now how do I add Disk Drivers It can't see my SATA 120GB in my Compaq C350EU laptop

Look if you have in BIOS option to disable SATA/AHCI and run in native IDE.
Other way is to slipstream BTS mass storage driver pack in your XP source:
http://www.driverpacks.net/
http://www.driverpac...rPack.php?pag=m
http://forum.driverp...pic.php?id=1449

[David McMahon]

Thanks Disabling SATA Native Mode displayed the drive in XP Setup.

So now that it works expect lots of annoying questions from me ;-)

[QED]

Hi Ilko

Can you please confirm, according to your warning box (post 136) if I’m using XP SP3 I should NOT be experiencing the deleted files problem?

I also found this in the How-Tos.txt (v 0.1.1):
“NOTE: If you are installing windows different than XP SP2 or SP3, some of the compressed files in ~LS\I386 or AMD64 folder will be deleted during Text mode of setup.”

I am using 32bit XP Pro SP3 (inc MP11, IE7, all hotfixes up to 25/10/2008 plus 3 mass storage drivers) and my files are definitely being deleted. Is this something to do with hotfixes etc? Have I gone “beyond” SP3?

I also have some observations using the re-sync option. After first install, re-sync needed to replace roughly 40% of missing files (by number and by size). To do this it took 75% of time compared to completely fresh preparation. Probably my USB is slow and re-sync accesses the USB much more than a straight copy?

-QED

[ilko_t]

QED- just tested to slipstream SP3 in SP2 source- no files were deleted, so it is well possible that update after SP3 causes USB write-protection to be ignored.
If that's the case, someone with the willingness to test may reveal what file(s) cause this behavior, by replacing usb drivers, setupdd.sy_, \system32\ntdll.dll in ~BT filder with those from SP3 archive. My first bet would be on usb drivers (usbstor.sy_ etc.) and setupdd.sy_.

As for the re-sync option- since we don't know which files were deleted, comparing the whole contents of I386 folders is needed, I can't think of faster and more reliable way to sync them, apart from writing a separate procedure, which first compares both folders and then copies only the difference. This will require some time to implement and test.

[QED]

Hi Ilko

I've found the problem with the deleted files! It has to do with when I installed WinSetupFromUSB in C:\Program Files. I guess that config file I mentioned which is created shortly after hitting GO is responsible. It gets created in the wrong place. Sorry I don't have a name for the file because it is given the name "Program " (with space at the end). This is the full contents of that file:

 
[Version]
Signature = "$Windows NT$"

[Addreg]
HKLM,"SYSTEM\MountedDevices",,0x00000010
HKLM,"SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\StorageDevicePolicies","WriteProtect",%REG_DWORD%,1
HKLM,"SYSTEM\MountedDevices","\DosDevices\C:",0x00030001,\
5C,00,3F,00,3F,00,5C,00,53,00,54,00,4F,00,52,00,41,00,47,00,45,00,23,00,52,00,65,00,6D,00,6F,00,76,0
0,61,00,62,00,6C,00,65,00,4D,00,65,00,64,00,69,00,61,00,23,00,37,00,26,00,31,00,33,00,66,00,61,00,37
,
00,38,00,64,00,34,00,26,00,30,00,26,00,52,00,4D,00,23,00,7B,00,35,00,33,00,66,00,35,00,36,00,33,00,3
0
,00,64,00,2D,00,62,00,36,00,62,00,66,00,2D,00,31,00,31,00,64,00,30,00,2D,00,39,00,34,00,66,00,32,00,
2
D,00,30,00,30,00,61,00,30,00,63,00,39,00,31,00,65,00,66,00,62,00,38,00,62,00,7D,00

[Strings]
;Handy macro substitutions non-localizable
REG_SZ = 0x00000000
REG_BINARY = 0x00000001
REG_DWORD = 0x00010001
REG_MULTI_SZ = 0x00010000
REG_SZ_APPEND = 0x00010008
REG_EXPAND_SZ = 0x00020000 

I also noticed when I installed WinSetupFromUSB in default location on C:\ the prepared USB has one extra file (don't know which one). I'm guessing it is because that config file transferred correctly to USB?

Hope this helps you track down the problem. I'm happy now that my USB isn't deleting itself anymore. Mainstream, here we come!!!

-QED

[ilko_t]

Nice catch

The file should be called migrate.inf and should go in ~BT folder. It does the write-protection during Text mode and sets letter U to the USB disk.
MkMigrateInf2.cmd is the script, which generates migrate.inf. Will have a look why spaces are problem, I guess it's called improperly from my program as spaces were not taken into account.

BTW it should be "\DosDevices\U:, did you post the orphan file?

[QED]

Hi Ilko

Quote

BTW it should be "\DosDevices\U:, did you post the orphan file?

Yes that is the orphan file that is generated in C:\ I ran it again to confirm. I think when this happens, there is no migrate.inf on my USB. When I install using this USB I noticed the USB was getting drive letter E: (first available after C: and D: (2 hard drives)). I thought it should be U: but I didn't care as it seemed to work anyway (except for disappering files).

Now when I run WinSetupFromUSB from default C:\ the USB gets migrate.inf (with "\DosDevices\U:") in ~BT folder. In text mode the USB gets correct drive letter U: and everything appears to work as it should.

It's good to know this should be relatively easy to fix. Looking forward to v 0.2.

-QED

[yocarim]

Frist at all, THX!!!!!!! is program is great.

But... i got a problem, (hd 0,0) /$win_nt$.~bt/setupldr.bin error 15: file not found

This message from after the choose the frist instalation option.

I see where is the problem, i got a unattended win xp instalation, with a $OEM$ folder and compressed drivers instalation in this folder, when the WinSetup program copy the files to usb in the folder $WIN_NT$.~BT is only 3 files: migrate.inf - rdummy.sy_ - WINNT.SIF and a subfolder system32 whitout no files in there, just the folder.

I solved the problem do it this, take a clear windows install version, in the Winsetup choose Fixed and Copy setup boot files only and then copy the $WIN_NT$.~BT to the installation with problem. Then boot right this way.

I see the problem, with a clear windows version, in the Winsetup choose Fixed and Copy setup boot files only the program copy 131 files, almost everything in the $WIN_NT$.~BT. In the unattended windows version, the WinSetup copy just 13 files, and the $WIN_NT$.~BT there is just 3 files (migrate.inf - rdummy.sy_ - WINNT.SIF) and 1 folder (system32 and this folder is empty)

Sorry for my english, i hope you understand me.

[thegr8anand]

Hey there,

I decided to scrap the idea of installing XP on my external Sata HD. So instead of dual-booting I am installing XP on my internal HD only and removing my Vista installation.

I go to the first part and it shows me the partitions of my internal HD. Since it is a Dell I got 4 partitions shown(instead of the the 3 i had been using C,D,E). I think this is some reserved partition of only 55mb size. So XP installation assigns this C and my actual C drive where i want to install is given D. So I install on D and first part completes.

Now when i select the second part i am getting missing hal.dll error. I can find $winnt$.inf and hal.dll from Grubdos on (hd1,1) but the second part keeps giving the error.

Is this a problem because in WinSetupUSB i gave the bootini settings disk:0,partition:1 since i thought that would be my C drive. but in first part of XP setup there was that extra partition which was assigned C.

This is my boot.ini on my USB. From the FAQ it says to amend it but i dont know how as grub says hal.dll is in (hd1,1).

[Boot Loader]
Timeout=5
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 1" /FASTDETECT

[ilko_t]

yocarim, on Oct 28 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

....

Thanks for reporting
Please let me have a look at the log files, the latest one is in WinSetupFromUSB\WinSetupFromUSB.log and the older ones are archived in WinSetupFromUSB\backup\$date$-$time$-log.cab
I would need all these log files. Please put them in a zip file and either upload it on a file sharing server such as http://www.mediafire.com/ , or attach it to your next post if size is small enough.
Please add DOSNET.INF from your unattended windows\I386 folder too, the problem is most likely in parsing it.

thegr8anand, on Oct 28 2008, 09:34 PM, said:

...
This is my boot.ini on my USB. From the FAQ it says to amend it but i dont know how as grub says hal.dll is in (hd1,1).

[Boot Loader]
Timeout=5
Default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Second part of XP Professional setup from hd 0 part 1" /FASTDETECT

You should be using partition 2 in your case, no matter that the first partition is hidden, it's still partition 1 and windows goes on partition 2.
Forget about C,D etc., those are not number of partitions and are used rather for user's convenience, than describing exactly your partitioning.

Simply change partition(1) to partition(2) in both lines and "hd 0 part 1" to "hd 0 part 2".
BTW for grub4dos numbering partition numbers start from 0, so (hd1,1) means second hard disk (USB is first), second partition.
In Windows disk numbering starts from 0 too, but partition numbers from 1. harddisk1\partition2 means second hard disk, second partition. ARC path for that would be rdisk(1)partition(2).
If you hold the mouse over partition or disk boxes in the GUI part of this information is displayed.

This post has been edited by ilko_t: 29 October 2008 - 12:23 AM

[thegr8anand]

Ya thanks. I got it working. So I am using XP now.

[yocarim]

ilko_t, on Oct 29 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

yocarim, on Oct 28 2008, 08:55 PM, said:

....

Thanks for reporting
Please let me have a look at the log files, the latest one is in WinSetupFromUSB\WinSetupFromUSB.log and the older ones are archived in WinSetupFromUSB\backup\$date$-$time$-log.cab
I would need all these log files. Please put them in a zip file and either upload it on a file sharing server such as http://www.mediafire.com/ , or attach it to your next post if size is small enough.
Please add DOSNET.INF from your unattended windows\I386 folder too, the problem is most likely in parsing it.

There is the file with the log's

Winsetup Log's

Winsetup log's Backup server




If you need something else, let me know

[ilko_t]

yocarim, on Oct 29 2008, 07:59 AM, said:

[b]There is the file with the log's...

Thanks

It was another unforeseen contents of dosnet.inf, changed the procedure which is parsing it and now should be less sensitive to funny contents of directories section.
Please try this version, just download the file and place it in WinSetupFromUSB directory, use it to launch the program:
http://www.mediafire...php?hdmtejok5yt

Please let me know if everything works fine. Will include the update in 0.2.

BTW what version of nLite the source was prepared with?

This post has been edited by ilko_t: 29 October 2008 - 03:32 PM

[yocarim]

The version of nlite is 1.4.9.1

And i test the program............you are THE BEST, problem solved, boot fine, works fine.

Now the challenge is.... install xp, from the usb stick to usb stick, i read this thing can do, but the method is so problematic and just i quit that, but i see you can do a program for that if you want do it, obviously.

And i think the program need a traslation, i you wanna i help you to translate to spanish.

Well one more time, THX!!!!! you are great!!

[jaclaz]

yocarim, on Oct 30 2008, 02:18 AM, said:

Now the challenge is.... install xp, from the usb stick to usb stick, i read this thing can do, but the method is so problematic and just i quit that, but i see you can do a program for that if you want do it, obviously.

Well, NO.

The challenge has already been solved for Installing XP ON USB stick FROM another media.

It could work from USB stick to USB stick?

Why don't you simply try?

There are two distinct semi/fully automated methods, linked here:
http://www.boot-land.net/forums/index.php?...c=6110&st=5

Since you can translate to Spanish, most probably you can understand a bit of Italian, these pages might be of interest to you:
http://www.etechs.it...u-disco-usbphp/
http://www.etechs.it/installare-xp-su-usb-...no-reloadedphp/
http://www.etechs.it/installare-windows-xp...a-usb-di-nuovo/

jaclaz

P.S.:Please note that I learned just yesterday about the existance of the XP3SD program, so it is currently UNTESTED by me.

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 30 October 2008 - 04:42 AM

[junksmi]

Hi Ilko, all,

ilko_t, on Oct 26 2008, 03:16 PM, said:

08-08-2008 was giving problems on other systems...
Please report to grub4dos developers, including what versions you used, your motherboard model and description of the error:
http://www.boot-land...hp?showforum=66

Well, just to report that I did finally post there: Grub4DOS problems with P4P800 (Error 17), as I'd like to now boot an ISO from the USB key, which (only?) Grub4DOS seems to be able to do - however, mapping to (hd32) doesn't result with anything on the old Grub4DOS that I'm trying to use.. Other than that, so far I haven't experienced other problems with the older Grub4DOS (or WinSetupFromUSB in general)...

Thanks again for the great work !!