[ilko_t]

bien1, on 03 March 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

sardu does not use grub4dos as winsetup?

As far as I remember there was an option whether to use grub4dos or syslinux.

bien1, on 03 March 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Is sardu > winsetup?

That's personal choice. Try and use whichever you like better and fits your needs.

[WindR]

How to rename the WINSETUP folder? Changing ISOPATH did not help.

[ilko_t]

http://www.msfn.org/...ndpost&p=984440

[majinzin]

hi,
i used WinSetupfromUsb 0.2.3 on my external hard drive with Win7 and ubuntu 12.10. First, i decompress Win7 iso in a folder then i browse that folder in WInSetupFromUsb and finally browse Ubuntu Live iso.
I try to boot them and both start fine. But when i select Win7, when i press Install button in setup screen, a popup alert me that cd/dvd driver is missing. i don't undersrand why.... if i burn same iso in a dvd there's no problem...

This in my "menu.lst"

color light-cyan/blue light-red/blue
timeout -1
default /default

title Setup Windows 
root (hd0,1)
chainloader /bootmgr

title Live Ubuntu 12.10 x86
map --unmap=0:0xff
map --unhook
root (hd0,1)
map /ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso (0xff) || map --mem /ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso quiet splash --
errorcheck off
initrd /casper/initrd.lz
initrd /casper/initrd.gz
errorcheck on
map --unmap=0:0xff

[jaclaz]

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i used WinSetupfromUsb 0.2.3

Try again this time using latest Beta, 1.0 beta8.

This is a known issue when the 7 is used as ".iso", but from what you write you are using a "flat" setup :
http://reboot.pro/to...required-cddvd/

jaclaz

[majinzin]

jaclaz, on 23 March 2013 - 09:33 AM, said:

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i used WinSetupfromUsb 0.2.3

Try again this time using latest Beta, 1.0 beta8.

This is a known issue when the 7 is used as ".iso", but from what you write you are using a "flat" setup :
http://reboot.pro/to...required-cddvd/

jaclaz

thank you...can i use 1.0 beta 8 without format partition? Is there a solution modify manually some files?

[ilko_t]

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:

hi,
i used WinSetupfromUsb 0.2.3 on my external hard drive with Win7 and ubuntu 12.10. First, i decompress Win7 iso in a folder then i browse that folder in WInSetupFromUsb and finally browse Ubuntu Live iso.
I try to boot them and both start fine. But when i select Win7, when i press Install button in setup screen, a popup alert me that cd/dvd driver is missing. i don't undersrand why.... if i burn same iso in a dvd there's no problem...

It may happen with some USB devices and certain Vista/7 versions, they are yet ready when Setup searches for the source files.
Try the latest unfinished yet hence not published, but fully functional beta9 from here, it takes care of these cases:
http://code.google.c...rc4.7z&can=1&q=
You should use the Vista/7 option and point it to the ISO file, no need to extract or mount it in this version, and do not confuse it with the next option- PartedMagic/Ubuntu...

Another idea- are you using USB3 port and USB3 device? Try plugging the disk in USB2 port.

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 09:42 AM, said:

thank you...can i use 1.0 beta 8 without format partition? Is there a solution modify manually some files?

Yes to the first question.
What files, you'll have to be more detailed what you want to accomplish.

@Jaclaz
It's added not as an ISO, just dump of the contents of the DVD to the USB disk and bootmgr chainloaded, nothing unusual.

[jaclaz]

ilko_t, on 23 March 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

@Jaclaz
It's added not as an ISO, just dump of the contents of the DVD to the USB disk and bootmgr chainloaded, nothing unusual.

I know , that's why it "tagged" the report as "unusual", I have never seen a "flat" asking for cd/dvd, I thought that beta 8 already was "fixed", my bad.

With all due respect , you could change the description of WinSetupFromUSB_1-0-beta9_rc4.7z to "Experimental", instead of "Deprecated", that of WinSetupFromUSB 1.0 Beta8 from "nothing" to "Current", and post a link to:
http://code.google.c...e+DownloadCount

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 23 March 2013 - 10:12 AM

[majinzin]

there are 3 things that i don't say:
1) i use WD hard drive 3.0....if i connect it on 3.0 ports, it doesn't boot!! no problem...i use 2.0 port
2) i created 4 partitions...i use 2nd partition (NTFS) in a table on winsetup.



3) yesterday, i don't konw how, it worked properly one time, no popup cd/dvd driver ecc....when i try another time it doesn't work...

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Yes to the first question.
What files, you'll have to be more detailed what you want to accomplish.

i thought that was possible modify menu.lst or other files to arrive at the same result of winsetup 1.0 beta 8...

[majinzin]

i used beta 9, first i deleted all files of windows 7...then i used winsetup. i tried boot...when i select win7 setup on grub, i select first part of installation (partition 1) and works!! Then i aborted, i suppose that i will select the second stage of installation when system reboot . correct? old procedure has only one stage, the problem is it?

EDIT:
probabibly i found the mistake: with BOOTICE i hid partition used with Winsetup then i tried to boot windows and it doesn't work !!!



i tried disconnect it but it doesn't work....

then i unhid partition and it WORKS!!! probably i hid partition also when i used winsetup 0.2.3 and the only time that it worked because partition was unhide...

This post has been edited by majinzin: 23 March 2013 - 01:04 PM

[cdob]

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

if i connect it on 3.0 ports, it doesn't boot!!

There are no USB 3 drivers at Windows 7 by default, hence the missing USB disk connected to USB 3.0 port.

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no problem...i use 2.0 port

Yes, this works. There are USB 2 driver by default.

[jaclaz]

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

EDIT:
probabibly i found the mistake: with BOOTICE i hid partition used with Winsetup then i tried to boot windows and it doesn't work !!!

Maybe, but still that screenshot sounds more like a timing problem.
Some External USB's and particularly WD "Green" drives have been reported to be "slow" at booting.
The traditional solution (for 3.5" disks) was to power the disk before the computer, for 2.5" disks to use an external power supply and power the disk before the computer and/or do a warm boot, or enter BIOS and add boot time RAM check, anything that could provide a few seconds of "advantage", but usually that timing problem made the external disk not bootable, not "unavailable" after the setup has started .

However, JFYI and as side note as it is not related to the issue at hand, you may want to correct the partition table on that disk, a number of softwares may NOT "like" partition entries in an order different from what is on disk.

jaclaz

[majinzin]

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However, JFYI and as side note as it is not related to the issue at hand, you may want to correct the partition table on that disk, a number of softwares may NOT "like" partition entries in an order different from what is on disk.

i konw....but i must change order of the partition to view movies on divx player...the player find partition only if it's the first in partition table....

i tried three time to hide and unhide partition and seems be that the problem...

[jaclaz]

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

i konw....but i must change order of the partition to view movies on divx player...the player find partition only if it's the first in partition table....

Well, then just take care when you use MBR/partition table/partitioning/formatting related tools .
Just in case of need (only seemingly unrelated):
http://www.911cd.net...showtopic=24392

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

i tried three time to hide and unhide partition and seems be that the problem...

Good , then it is solved.

jaclaz

This post has been edited by jaclaz: 23 March 2013 - 02:26 PM

[ilko_t]

majinzin, on 23 March 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:

i used beta 9, first i deleted all files of windows 7...then i used winsetup. i tried boot...when i select win7 setup on grub, i select first part of installation (partition 1) and works!! Then i aborted, i suppose that i will select the second stage of installation when system reboot . correct? old procedure has only one stage, the problem is it?

Correct. The second menu is added only for user convenience, for easy unattended setups if after first reboot BIOS boots again from USB, it simply boots the MBR on the first internal disk, just as BIOS would do if the internal disk was first in boot priority order.

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i thought that was possible modify menu.lst or other files to arrive at the same result of winsetup 1.0 beta 8...

I still don't get your idea, maybe an example would help, but nothing stops you to edit menu.lst for example, or any other file, as long as you know what you are doing.

jaclaz, on 23 March 2013 - 10:12 AM, said:

...
With all due respect , you could change the description of WinSetupFromUSB_1-0-beta9_rc4.7z to "Experimental", instead of "Deprecated", that of WinSetupFromUSB 1.0 Beta8 from "nothing" to "Current", and post a link to:
http://code.google.c...e+DownloadCount

jaclaz

I want those experimental as well as the old ones versions hidden from the default view.:
http://code.google.c.../downloads/list

Marking them as Deprecated seems to be the way to keep them hidden and still accessible. As far as I see I can add new labels, Experimental for example, but cannot hide such files.

[jaclaz]

ilko_t, on 24 March 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

]I want those experimental as well as the old ones versions hidden from the default view.:
http://code.google.c.../downloads/list

Marking them as Deprecated seems to be the way to keep them hidden and still accessible. As far as I see I can add new labels, Experimental for example, but cannot hide such files.

Well, it's your files, but it seems to me a "queer" way to manage a project (or versioning).

Basically you have not on that page the "stable" 0.2.3 (which would be the "logical" thing to use if you come here the first time),
you have the 1.0beta8 (which, comeon , is Beta since more than one year, has contributed to install more XP's than you might ever think ), but you go around:
http://reboot.pro/to...setup/?p=170008
suggesting the beta9 (which is experimental BUT not listed by default).

IMHO a project should have:

• last "previous" versions (just in case) <- let's say 0.2.3 <-Marked as "Previous stable"
  
• "current" version <- the 1.0Beta8, aptly renamed to 1.0 <- Marked as "current"
  
• "experimental" version <- the 1.0Beta9, aptly renamed to 1.0Beta <- Marked as "experimental"

these three versions should be available on the "default list", while all the versions but the three above should be not listed by default, but available in the advanced list:

• "previous" versions (just in case) <- let's say anything before 0.2.3 and all the 1.0beta's <-Marked as "Deprecated"

jaclaz

[ilko_t]

I agree, the versioning is a little mess. The reason not to clear it up already is that I had long to-do list with enhancements and futures for "stable" 1.x version, but due to the lack of time to code and thoroughly test them I just add another beta. Regular users seem to not mind much, I guess first time users are put off the word beta.
To be fixed soon though.

[semiono]

Please help me, Is it possible to hide cmd.exe under GUI mode of install WinXP (x64) ? Where is the start it in a script? How I do to make it with hidec.exe /w command ?
And thanks for Your good works! My nLite WinXP64 good working with the tools!

[ilko_t]

You may edit \I386\setup.cmd, which is cab compressed to setup.cm_ and remove the line:

start /min "Keeping USB disk mounted workarround, do NOT close!" pushd %CDDRIVE%

Why is it bothering you? It's been put there on purpose. In some cases during PnP detection the USB disk may disappear, then Setup, naturally, complains about missing source files. That window keeps open handle to the USB disk during GUI mode, so it does not disappear. All this to work as expected, in the next version of the program another line is added just above this one:

%CDDRIVE%

If you want to keep that window, but hide it, start pushd by hidec.exe or any other alternative. Add the relevant lines in txtsetup.sif in the corresponding small ISO file and the file itself in I386 or AMD64.

[semiono]

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If you want to keep that window, but hide it, start pushd by hidec.exe or any other alternative.

Yes, it i need. Thanks!

This is one line that show cmd.exe ?

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start /min "Keeping USB disk mounted workarround, do NOT close!" pushd %CDDRIVE%

hidec /w pushd %CDDRIVE% will be correct for me?

Only large and very cool file setup.cmd difficult to understand the beginner

This post has been edited by semiono: 04 April 2013 - 08:46 AM