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#1 User is offline   COKEDUDEUSF 

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 04:52 PM

What does it mean when your registry tweaks run fine during your unattended installation, but when your computer restarts they don't show up on your computer. I have taken off the /s switches so I know for a fact they are running. I have to hit yes and ok for them to run. I tested my reg tweaks many times and I know they run just fine.


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Posted 20 July 2008 - 06:50 PM

what are your reg tweaks? Some need to be applied at different points during the UA setup.

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Posted 20 July 2008 - 07:36 PM

View PostIcemanND, on Jul 20 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

what are your reg tweaks? Some need to be applied at different points during the UA setup.

I have just one for now. I'm just trying to get the basics down. I named it SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:37 PM

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:09 PM

At what point are you settings these settings?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 11:01 PM

View PostCOKEDUDEUSF, on Jul 20 2008, 05:52 PM, said:

What does it mean when your registry tweaks run fine during your unattended installation, but when your computer restarts they don't show up on your computer. I have taken off the /s switches so I know for a fact they are running. I have to hit yes and ok for them to run. I tested my reg tweaks many times and I know they run just fine.
Can't say why your's doesn't work, but mine works with the /s.
I run my regtweaks from cmdlines.txt
[COMMANDS]
"REGEDIT /S .\DefUserRegTweaks.reg"
I also like to apply it to all users (including newly created ones) so instead of
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER
I like to use
[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT
Then it gets applied even to the 1st created user.

This post has been edited by JoeMSFN: 26 July 2008 - 11:04 PM


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Posted 18 August 2008 - 04:03 PM

View PostIcemanND, on Jul 26 2008, 11:09 PM, said:

At what point are you settings these settings?


I apply it here.
[Commands]
"OemPreinstall.cmd"
"REGEDIT /S SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG"
"COMPRESSION_STUFF.CMD"


Is applying it here bad? Remember I use this. I call it SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001


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Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:06 PM

View PostCOKEDUDEUSF, on Aug 18 2008, 06:03 PM, said:

View PostIcemanND, on Jul 26 2008, 11:09 PM, said:

At what point are you settings these settings?


I apply it here.
[Commands]
"OemPreinstall.cmd"
"REGEDIT /S SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG"
"COMPRESSION_STUFF.CMD"


Is applying it here bad? Remember I use this. I call it SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001



Any ideas please?

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Posted 21 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

It means you got your registry tweak wrong.

You need to set SuperHidden to 0 and ShowSuperHidden to 1 if you want to see hidden system files.

If not, set SuperHidden to 1 and ShowSuperHidden to 0.

The values are opposite of each other, not the same.

Applying this manually, you'll see that these values change as I mentioned.

Beats me why there are two entries are changed when doing one thing.

This post has been edited by spacesurfer: 21 August 2008 - 03:01 PM


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Posted 21 August 2008 - 08:21 PM

View Postspacesurfer, on Aug 21 2008, 05:00 PM, said:

It means you got your registry tweak wrong.

You need to set SuperHidden to 0 and ShowSuperHidden to 1 if you want to see hidden system files.

If not, set SuperHidden to 1 and ShowSuperHidden to 0.

The values are opposite of each other, not the same.

Applying this manually, you'll see that these values change as I mentioned.

Beats me why there are two entries are changed when doing one thing.


I gonna be royally p***ed if yer right. I'm pretty sure your right. This worked when I applied it on my computer, so I don't understand why it didn't work during my unattended install. What you said does make a lot of since though.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 12:50 PM

View Postspacesurfer, on Aug 21 2008, 05:00 PM, said:

It means you got your registry tweak wrong.

You need to set SuperHidden to 0 and ShowSuperHidden to 1 if you want to see hidden system files.

If not, set SuperHidden to 1 and ShowSuperHidden to 0.

The values are opposite of each other, not the same.

Applying this manually, you'll see that these values change as I mentioned.

Beats me why there are two entries are changed when doing one thing.


I wish it was that easy. I tried it with only ShowSuperHidded as 1 and it did not work.

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 03:33 PM

it works for me. however, it requires a refresh - like closing explorer windows and restarting them.

it's really hard to make it toggle, but i know that you're not trying to toggle it but have it applied during setup.


beats me!

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Posted 22 August 2008 - 06:36 PM

If regtweaks dosen't work from T-12(cmdlines.txt), then try from first-logon instead...

Remove this from cmdlines.txt:
"REGEDIT /S SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG"

Add this to cmdlines.txt:
"RunOnceEx.cmd"

Make a file named RunOnceEx.cmd in $OEM$ with this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "regedit /s %~dp0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f


Btw, since you said in your other thread that you where having trouble getting WinRAR and 7-Zip installed from cmdlines.txt, then if you'd like, then you could install them also from first-logon instead...

I myself would recommend doing it like this:

Delete everything from cmdlines.txt and just keep:
"RunOnceEx.cmd"

Make a folder named RunOnceEx under $OEM$ and place '7-Zip-v4.42.exe', 'WinRAR-v3.71.exe' and 'SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG' into it.

Delete the contents of RunOnceEx.cmd and replace it with this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add %key%\003 /v 1 /d "regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f


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Posted 22 August 2008 - 11:08 PM

View Postspacesurfer, on Aug 22 2008, 05:33 PM, said:

it works for me. however, it requires a refresh - like closing explorer windows and restarting them.

it's really hard to make it toggle, but i know that you're not trying to toggle it but have it applied during setup.


beats me!



Huh????? Elaborate please.

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 12:04 AM

View PostMartin H, on Aug 22 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Make a folder named RunOnceEx under $OEM$ and place '7-Zip-v4.42.exe', 'WinRAR-v3.71.exe' and 'SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG' into it.

Delete the contents of RunOnceEx.cmd and replace it with this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add %key%\003 /v 1 /d "regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f


Ok I got a couple of questions though. Don't I need to have cmdow on the disc somewhere? So where would be the best place to add cmdow? Could you please also explain the parts of the RunOnceEx.cmd. I understand most of it. The %~dpn0 part is the part I'm most confused about. I know the %key%\001 /v makes folders inside RunOnceEx. I know 1 /d makes a REG_SZ called one. The rest is the directory and the force overwrite switch. I still can't figure out the %~dpn0 part.

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 07:55 AM

View PostMartin H, on Aug 22 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

Make a folder named RunOnceEx under $OEM$ and place '7-Zip-v4.42.exe', 'WinRAR-v3.71.exe' and 'SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG' into it.

Delete the contents of RunOnceEx.cmd and replace it with this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add %key%\003 /v 1 /d "regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f


The 7-Zip and WinRaR installed good with the RunOnceEx.cmd. Unfortunately my SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG is not working for me. Does it have something to do with it being the admin account? I really don't know what else it could be.

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

No, it isn't related to you using the built-in admin account...

Now if you're absolutely sure that the tweak actually works and that SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG is located in "\$OEM$\RunOnceEx\", then the tweak needs to be applied after the shell has fully loaded, so try with this RunOnceEx.cmd:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce /v command0 /d "regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f

If that dosen't work, then try this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce /v command0 /d "cmd /c @cmdow @ /hid&ping -n 1 -w 10000 1.1.1.1&regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f

Also, remember to have cmdow.exe into '\$OEM$\$$\System32\'...

The last one will pause 10 seconds after the shell(explorer) has finished loading, so if it still dosen't work, then i'm affraid that i cannot help you...

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Posted 23 August 2008 - 03:42 PM

View PostMartin H, on Aug 23 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

Also, remember to have cmdow.exe into '\$OEM$\$$\System32\'...

The last one will pause 10 seconds after the shell(explorer) has finished loading, so if it still dosen't work, then i'm affraid that i cannot help you...


I forgot the Bloody cmdow.exe. I know for a 100% fact my SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG is being applied to my computer. For some reason the changes are not showing up in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER, but they are showing up in the HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT. According to this: http://unattended.ms...xp/view/web/17/
the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive is imported over to the HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT Hive. So I don't understand why my tweaks would show up in the HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT, and not in the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive. Another thing that is really weird to me is every time I create a new account the HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT hive is being copied over to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER hive. I have created 3 accounts and the info isn't being copied over.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 02:57 AM

View PostMartin H, on Aug 23 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

No, it isn't related to you using the built-in admin account...

Now if you're absolutely sure that the tweak actually works and that SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG is located in "\$OEM$\RunOnceEx\", then the tweak needs to be applied after the shell has fully loaded, so try with this RunOnceEx.cmd:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce /v command0 /d "regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f

If that dosen't work, then try this:
@cmdow @ /hid
set key=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
reg add %key%\001 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\7-Zip-v4.42.exe" /f
reg add %key%\002 /v 1 /d "%~dpn0\WinRAR-v3.71.exe" /f
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce /v command0 /d "cmd /c @cmdow @ /hid&ping -n 1 -w 10000 1.1.1.1&regedit /s %~dpn0\SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG" /f

Also, remember to have cmdow.exe into '\$OEM$\$$\System32\'...

The last one will pause 10 seconds after the shell(explorer) has finished loading, so if it still dosen't work, then i'm affraid that i cannot help you...


Thx Martin for all of yer help. I just tried a silly idea of mine and it actually worked. I added a couple of lines to my SHOW_OPERATING_FILES.REG. The bold part is the new stuff.

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"SuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\Folder\SuperHidden]
"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001


Adding that part to the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE did the trick. I've been reading and learning as much as I can about the registry the last couple of days. So what I wanted to do has finally been accomplished. Thx a lot Martin I could have never of accomplished this without yer help.

This post has been edited by COKEDUDEUSF: 24 August 2008 - 03:00 AM


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Posted 24 August 2008 - 03:34 AM

for my uninstall install, i use this tweak to show system file and it work correctely

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\Folder\SuperHidden]
"DefaultValue"=dword:00000001

; To get rid of that annoying backwards warning.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced\Folder\SuperHidden]
"WarningIfNotDefault"=-

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001

zoub

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