[Dave-H]

Hi win2000.

Can I get any answer as to whether there's any hope of my AVS Video Tools working with your kernel32.dll installed?
I'd like to know as it affects how I want to configure my machine from now on.
Thanks for all you do.

[Eddie2003]

Hello,

I'm using Windows NT 5.0 EUR Edition and wanna use WMP10+ and MSN Messenger 8.1, but both programs doesn't start, I have installed the KDW with all files and EZ Registry, but the MSNMSGS.MSI from "Install_MSN_ Messenger.exe" doesn't work, it installs it, but shorty for ending setup, it starts rollback and says that it cannot be installed.

[Dave-H]

Eddie2003, on Oct 26 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

Hello,

I'm using Windows NT 5.0 EUR Edition and wanna use WMP10+ and MSN Messenger 8.1, but both programs doesn't start, I have installed the KDW with all files and EZ Registry, but the MSNMSGS.MSI from "Install_MSN_ Messenger.exe" doesn't work, it installs it, but shorty for ending setup, it starts rollback and says that it cannot be installed.

I don't know about MSN Messenger, but for WMP10 I think you must use win2000's special installer.
The normal one won't work.
You can get it here -
http://blog.livedoor...ives/37690.html
Worked for me!

[Eddie2003]

I used the version from this thread, but it says, that it cannot find updates...

Attached File(s)

•  WMP10.png (114.98K)
  Number of downloads: 35

[Dave-H]

Eddie2003, on Oct 26 2008, 08:10 PM, said:

I used the version from this thread, but it says, that it cannot find updates...

I'm a bit puzzled why your System Properties says "Microsoft Windows NT" and not "Windows 2000" as mine does.
All the other details are the same, with the addition of the "Windows NT-Update: 14.10.2008" bit.
I'm not sure what "Windows NT 5.0 EUR Edition" actually is.
All I know is that KDW was specifically targeted at Windows 2000 SP4, and if your OS is flagged as something different that may well be why things are not working as they should.
Sorry not to be of more help here.

[RonCam]

Google Gears??
I know this is now included with Chrome, but isn't it still possible to install it separately?

Can't find any reference to someone who has done this on Windows 2000 Pro.

Any advice on this point?

Thanks, RonCam

.

[WildBill]

I tried installing it and it made my PC unable to boot (not even into safe mode). I had to pull my SATA hard drive, plug it into my laptop (thank God I had a USB-SATA kit!!!) and copy the original DLL's back from the laptop. It's possible that I did something wrong installing it, but I don't really know. I saw a lot of buttons on the main window and it wasn't clear what to do when installing.

[blackwingcat]

I tried.

 dxva2.png (15.34K)
Number of downloads: 12
I Installed trial version PowerDVD.
Added four lines. when I drop the file move DXVA Checker.

pr0fessor, on Oct 19 2008, 08:45 PM, said:

on my pc is the same - its work (buth on windows xp the window is little different) the window shows that you have DXVA support by drivers, but you must have DXVA supported directshow codecs like "CyberLink 264 Decoder Filter" and if you drag'n'drop some H264 video file ovet the window, the program show to you if you have DXVA supported directshow codecs installed. its eazy to check with CLVsd.ax (copy from cyberlink powerdvd 7 or 8, and install from run "rundll32.exe CLVSD.ax,DllRegisterServer") then download:

unrar and drop file over DXVA checker's window
the file is MPEG2_C encoded

if you dont have any DXVA there is no lines in the window...

[blackwingcat]

Hi,
I tried to install Live Messenger 8.5.
It worked as same as 8.1.
My Blog(Japanese)

At first Install kernel32 and avdapi32.dll KDW DLL in system( not Ez Install).
Please start Windows Installer Service.
And set Windows XP Compatible mode with fcwin2k.
and you can install Messenger 8.1 or 8.5.

After install you must install ezmode or system install advapi32,kernel32,shell32,user32,esent,ws2_32
KDW dlls.

Eddie2003, on Oct 27 2008, 03:47 AM, said:

Hello,

I'm using Windows NT 5.0 EUR Edition and wanna use WMP10+ and MSN Messenger 8.1, but both programs doesn't start, I have installed the KDW with all files and EZ Registry, but the MSNMSGS.MSI from "Install_MSN_ Messenger.exe" doesn't work, it installs it, but shorty for ending setup, it starts rollback and says that it cannot be installed.

[blackwingcat]

Did you use google chrome installer ?
you must use it for using google gears.

I also described about google gears for windows 2000 on my blog.
My Blog (Japanese)

RonCam, on Oct 27 2008, 08:11 AM, said:

Google Gears??
I know this is now included with Chrome, but isn't it still possible to install it separately?

Can't find any reference to someone who has done this on Windows 2000 Pro.

Any advice on this point?

Thanks, RonCam

.

[blackwingcat]

Following I replied before.
It is defficult, cause of AVS detect wrapper dll and exclude them.

Dave-H, on Oct 22 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Hi win2000.

Can I get any answer as to whether there's any hope of my AVS Video Tools working with your kernel32.dll installed?
I'd like to know as it affects how I want to configure my machine from now on.
Thanks for all you do.

[Dave-H]

WildBill, on Oct 28 2008, 04:59 AM, said:

I tried installing it and it made my PC unable to boot (not even into safe mode). I had to pull my SATA hard drive, plug it into my laptop (thank God I had a USB-SATA kit!!!) and copy the original DLL's back from the laptop. It's possible that I did something wrong installing it, but I don't really know. I saw a lot of buttons on the main window and it wasn't clear what to do when installing.

I posted a guide on page 4 of this thread which I thought would be helpful.
Have a look and see if it does help explain how to use KDLLINST.
Especially "EZ KD Registry" must be checked or you will risk BSODs on start-up.
Note that the "Japanese character" in the paths mentioned seems to have been fixed in the latest version.

This post has been edited by Dave-H: 28 October 2008 - 03:15 AM

[Dave-H]

win2000, on Oct 28 2008, 08:47 AM, said:

Following I replied before.
It is defficult, cause of AVS detect wrapper dll and exclude them.

Dave-H, on Oct 22 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Hi win2000.

Can I get any answer as to whether there's any hope of my AVS Video Tools working with your kernel32.dll installed?
I'd like to know as it affects how I want to configure my machine from now on.
Thanks for all you do.

Oh dear, that sounds like bad news!
From what you say this probably can't be worked around.
I take it that AVS has to have the original kernel32.dll in the system32 folder for it to work.
I assume that this is some sort or anti-piracy measure, and presumably there are other programs that will have the same problem.

If you find a fix or workaround, let me know!

[RonCam]

Thanks very much, win2000, for your reply!
To make sure I understood accurately, here are my questions and your replies, with my understanding added in square brackets, where needed:

win2000, on Oct 28 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

Did you use google chrome installer ?

No, I didn't install it yet, I was waiting for your advice and to find out if it is possible.

RonCam, on Oct 27 2008, 08:11 AM, said:

I know this [Gears] is now included with Chrome, but isn't it still possible to install it separately?

Reply:

win2000, on Oct 28 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

you must use it [you must install Chrome] for using google gears.

I see. You are saying if Gears is to work with Windows 2000, it must be only through the Gears/Chrome installation. You are saying, even though IE6+ is already on my system, just installing Gears, alone, will not work under Windows 2000.
I was confused because the Gears download page appears (am I mistaken in this?) to be offering Gears as a separate installation.

win2000, on Oct 28 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

I also described about google gears for windows 2000 on my blog.
My Blog (Japanese)

I have it open now in another window, using the Google Japanese -> English translation.
I think before I do anything, given the quality of the translation, I should first post my understanding of what you are saying here, for your approval!

[blackwingcat]

Chrome's gears doesn't work without install chrome but unpack 7z and copy.
And please install it separately.

IE and Firefox's google gears are different from google chrome's.
You must download and install each one.

You had better use chrome2k installer on my blog.

RonCam, on Oct 28 2008, 06:56 PM, said:

RonCam, on Oct 27 2008, 08:11 AM, said:

I know this [Gears] is now included with Chrome, but isn't it still possible to install it separately?

Reply:

win2000, on Oct 28 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

you must use it [you must install Chrome] for using google gears.

I see. You are saying if Gears is to work with Windows 2000, it must be only through the Gears/Chrome installation. You are saying, even though IE6+ is already on my system, just installing Gears, alone, will not work under Windows 2000.
I was confused because the Gears download page appears (am I mistaken in this?) to be offering Gears as a separate installation.

[RonCam]

win2000, on Oct 29 2008, 03:59 AM, said:

Chrome's gears doesn't work without install chrome but unpack 7z and copy.
And please install it separately.

IE and Firefox's google gears are different from google chrome's.
You must download and install each one.

I see. You are saying, Gears is specific to each browser, and the installer you have developed for Windows 2000 is for the Gears/Chrome combination, not for the others. So, you are saying, not to bother with Gears for my exising MSIE6+ installation, but instead install Gears/Chrome (and get a second, but newer, browser at the same time).

I think I have understood correctly?

I will work on your Gears/Chrome/for Win2K installation as my next project. At the moment I am working with the developer of Sandboxie (Ronen Tzur) to get one small bug, that appeared under Windows 2000, out of the most recent beta build. IMO, Windows 2000 running under Sandboxie has better protection and security on the Internet, than does Vista.

Then, when all is running well, I will turn to getting Gears. Thanks so much for sharing your efforts for others who appreciate, and want to continue with Windows 2000!!

RonCam

[blackwingcat]

Hi,
I noticed a point.
Did you installed google chrome potable (chromium)?
It can't install separately.
I think that you didn't have better use potable chrome if you want to install separately.

[blackwingcat]

Hi , I tried to install MVS2005SP1.

vhdmount.exe and vhdbus.sys can run on windows 2000, but vhdstor.sys can't work , it use unsupported kernel API.

Ninho, on Oct 18 2008, 12:03 AM, said:

Hi Win2000 ..! Using your system, is it possible to install and run Microsoft "vhdmount.exe" utility under Win 2k ?

[Dave-H]

Just thought I'd record a few issues I've had with KDW, just so if anyone else runs into them they'll know what's happening.

Firstly, as I've been discussing with win2000, there are some things which will stop working if some of the KDW system files are actually installed in the system32 folder, rather than using the "Ezinstall" mode.

AVS Video Tools is one of them, and there doesn't seem to be any workaround for this.
It won't work if the original kernel32.dll is replaced.

Another one I've discovered is that some Microsoft Update patches won't install if shell32.dll is replaced.
This seems to apply mainly to Microsoft Office updates.
I've had several fail even when using the standalone installer, and restoring the original shell32.dll fixes this.

Also some Installshield installers won't work if the KDW user32.dll is installed.
The symptom is that after unpacking all you get is a window with "1158:" in it, nothing else.
Pressing OK aborts the install.
Opera and Google Earth installers are two I've found to have that problem.
Restoring the original user32.dll fixes it.

***EDIT: This last problem is now fixed in the latest KDW versions***

Don't misunderstand me, I think that KDW is a great piece of work, and win2000 is to be highly congratulated for what he's achieved here, but any system which involves replacing system files, even using wrappers, is almost bound to cause some unwanted side effects. All of these can be worked around of course, I'm just bringing them to people's attention.
Dave.

This post has been edited by Dave-H: 27 November 2008 - 07:09 AM

[blackwingcat]

Hi,

Did you use kdw ver 0.70 ?
I just have noticed kernel32, user32 and shell32 compile miss and on KDW 0.70.
cause of changing environment new my pc.
I released Ver 0.70a.
If there are still some problem, please use kernel32.dll in KDW ver 0.68a .

Dave-H, on Oct 31 2008, 12:00 AM, said:

Also some Installshield installers won't work if the KDW user32.dll is installed.
The symptom is that after unpacking all you get is a window with "1158:" in it, nothing else.
Pressing OK aborts the install.
Opera and Google Earth installers are two I've found to have that problem.
Restoring the original user32.dll fixes it.

I see . We will accept it.

Dave-H, on Oct 31 2008, 12:00 AM, said:

AVS Video Tools is one of them, and there doesn't seem to be any workaround for this.
It won't work if the original kernel32.dll is replaced.

Another one I've discovered is that some Microsoft Update patches won't install if shell32.dll is replaced.
This seems to apply mainly to Microsoft Office updates.
I've had several fail even when using the standalone installer, and restoring the original shell32.dll fixes this.

This post has been edited by win2000: 31 October 2008 - 08:21 AM