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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite (downloaded on 2009-08-26).

Win9x fans will notice that one more utility no longer operates.

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As mentioned in the top post and more recently by Queue, there may be some hope in manually patching some of these using a tool by SteelBytes. I have not had the time lately but will endeavor to at some point.

NOTE: If any mods are reading this perhaps you might comment on the ethicality of documenting here the results of patching System Internals utilities (see my concerns in the top post). I'm guessing it will be ok since other Microsoft files are commonly patched and discussed (for example UXTHEME). But it can't hurt to ask anyway.

You can report freely your results regarding the patching of System Internals utilities.
What you cannot do (Rule 1.b) is to actually redistribute the patched binaries (nor the unpatched binaries, but, for them, you can provide links to the original software provider/vendor site, if you so want).

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As mentioned in the top post and more recently by Queue, there may be some hope in manually patching some of these using a tool by SteelBytes. I have not had the time lately but will endeavor to at some point.

NOTE: If any mods are reading this perhaps you might comment on the ethicality of documenting here the results of patching System Internals utilities (see my concerns in the top post). I'm guessing it will be ok since other Microsoft files are commonly patched and discussed (for example UXTHEME). But it can't hurt to ask anyway.

You can report freely your results regarding the patching of System Internals utilities.
What you cannot do (Rule 1.b) is to actually redistribute the patched binaries (nor the unpatched binaries, but, for them, you can provide links to the original software provider/vendor site, if you so want).

I thank you sir!

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Autoruns.exe .... 9.13 ..... 603,176 ... 02-25-08 ... 12:44p ... ok (Windows)
Procexp.exe .... 11.11 ... 3,654,696 ... 02-27-08 .... 1:05p ... ok (Windows)

:D With KernelEx 4.0 Final2 installed on Win98SE, last versions are fine:
* Autoruns 9.53
* ProcessExplorer 11.33


EDIT after more tests: :rolleyes:
Well, Autoruns 9.53 is running ...but with errors, like false-'File not found'.
Even Autoruns 9.13 is running but not displaying correctly Default Icon's of the entries.
So, last fully functional version for me, seems to be 9.12!

For Process Explorer same thing, last version doesn't display the process name when cursor is rolling over the CPU history or Commit.
Last good version for me is 11.31.

Edited by CharlesF, 30 November 2009 - 05:41 PM.


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FYI...

* RegMon v7.04 32-bit for Windows 9x/NT4/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 monitors
and displays in real time all Registry changes:
http://www.microsoft...ion/regmon.mspx
Direct download [265 KB, freeware]:
http://www.filewatch...271346.0.0.html
How to FIX RegMon 7.0x to run properly on Windows 95/98/ME:
http://support.micro....com/?id=931822


* Autoruns 32-bit for Windows 9x/NT4/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 detects +
displays all autostart/startup programs/monitors/TSRs/processes/services from
all startup folders + Registry entries (freeware):
http://www.microsoft...s/autoruns.mspx
- Autoruns 9.56 for Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 [577 KB]:
http://download.sysi...es/autoruns.zip
- OLD Autoruns 8.73 for Windows 9x/NT4/ME [485 KB]:
http://files3.brothe...oruns-8.-73.zip

* TCPView GUI + TCPVcon command line v2.54 32-bit tools for Windows
9x/NT4/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 monitor, display + close all active TCP +
UDP endpoints, lists remote addresses + TCP connection(s) status:
http://www.microsoft...ng/tcpview.mspx
Direct download [208 KB, freeware]:
http://download.sysi...les/tcpview.zip
Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2 require Winsock Upgrade 2.0 [963 KB] already installed:
http://support.micro....com/?id=182108

* Process Explorer 32-bit for Windows
9x/NT4/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 for x86, x64, AMD64 + IA64 CPUs displays +
monitors ANY app/process/thread/TSR/executable (freeware):
http://www.microsoft...ssexplorer.mspx
- Process Explorer 11.33 for Windows 98/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 [1.54 MB]:
http://download.sysi...essexplorer.zip
- OLD Process Explorer 9.25 32-bit for Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2 [1.18 MB]:
http://www.toolzbyda...ils/procexp.exe
Windows 95/OSR1/OSR2 require Winsock Upgrade 2.0 [963 KB] already installed:
http://support.micro....com/?id=182108

HTH

Edit:
Added MSKB fix URL for RegMon.

Edited by MDGx, 23 December 2009 - 11:05 PM.


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* RegMon v7.04 32-bit for Windows 9x

RegMon and FileMon are broken here. :(
I get an error message:
"FILEVXD.VXD is not loaded properly.: The system cannot find the file specified." with Filemon,
and "REGVXD.VXD is not loaded properly.: The system cannot find the file specified." with RegMon,
when launching them. :}

Same thing with an older version (6.04).
Any idea?

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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite: 2009-12-01. (downloaded on 2009-12-18).

Win9x fans will notice no functional changes except for the fact that both FILEMON and REGMON are no longer distributed in the Suite.

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RegMon and FileMon are broken here. :(
I get an error message:
"FILEVXD.VXD is not loaded properly.: The system cannot find the file specified." with Filemon,
and "REGVXD.VXD is not loaded properly.: The system cannot find the file specified." with RegMon,
when launching them. :}

Same thing with an older version (6.04).
Any idea?

Maybe this will help...?

Error message when you try to run the Sysinternals FileMon and RegMon...
OS: WINDOWS 98SE MB: P3V4X (1006 004) CPU: P3 850 @ 1055 MHZ RAM: 768 MB of CL2 PC133 HDD: 2 WD1600AAJB-00J3A0 (160 GIG) VIDEO: GEFORCE FX 5500 (77.72) MONITOR: SONY CPD-100ES AUDIO: SBLIVE! (SB0228) DVD: BENQ 1655 (BCDB) / ASUS 1814BL (1.14)

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Just an FYI to everyone concerned with the firewall alerts due to phone home boilerplate code found in the System Internals utilities circa the Microsoft acquisition (some posts here at MSFN about it in Win98 vulnerability, where Multibooter noted the behavior).

An explanation is found at System Internals in 2006 the thread Process Explorer and Internet Access, which was just before the Microsoft takeover.

In short, the phoning home occurs for two reasons that I can see ...

The utilities attempt to verify digital signatures, which can be disabled in the GUI of each app under options (which apparently only appears on WinXP and above).

Also there can be internet access initiated from the using help file, no doubt from some JavaScript in the source code of the compiled CHM.

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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite: 2010-04-15. (downloaded on 2010-04-17).

Win9x fans will notice no functional changes among the very few remaining compatible utilities distributed in the Suite.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2010-08-02. (downloaded on 2010-08-17).

Win9x fans will notice no functional changes among the very few remaining compatible utilities distributed in the Suite.

Interestingly, the newest utility: RAMMAP.EXE requires Vista or higher. This means that both Win9x and WinXP are now victims of Microsoft's latest compilers. Wonderful. So to any WinXP users: Welcome to the Party pal!

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I hope it is right place: I've found replacement (at least partially) for Process Explorer - Process Viewer for Windows (PrcView) 5.2.15.
It works under Win9x but

Please note that performance and monitoring-related functionality will not run on Windows 9x/Me


http://www.teamcti.c...iew/prcview.htm

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I've found replacement (at least partially) for Process Explorer - Process Viewer for Windows (PrcView) 5.2.15.

Hummm, why do you need to replace Process Explorer? :whistle:

This Process Viewer doesn't seems better to me. :lol:

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@MDGx:

* Autoruns 32-bit for Windows 9x/NT4/2000/ME/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 detects +
displays all autostart/startup programs/monitors/TSRs/processes/services from
all startup folders + Registry entries (freeware):
- Autoruns 9.56 for Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 [577 KB]:
http://download.sysi...es/autoruns.zip


And why not: Autoruns 9.57 (http://www.filehippo..._autoruns/6658/)?

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- Autoruns 9.56 for Windows 2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7 [577 KB]:
http://download.sysi...es/autoruns.zip

@MDGx: your link downloads version 10.02 (not 9.56). :whistle:


Maybe this will help...?

Error message when you try to run the Sysinternals FileMon and RegMon...

Sorry, I didn't saw your message. :blushing:
No, it's not my problem
...but after a few reinstall's I got them running. ;)


And why not: Autoruns 9.57

As I said in post #30,
it seems to me that all versions after 9.12 are buggy with Windows 98,
and are not giving more information.

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@CharlesF:


And why not: Autoruns 9.57

As I said in post #30,
it seems to me that all versions after 9.12 are buggy with Windows 98,
and are not giving more information.

I asked about Autoruns v. 9.57 because I had not noticed a difference in the results of performance in comparison to Autoruns v. 9.56. However, when I looked at the displayed information more carefully, I found out that some part of it is false. The Autoruns v. 9.56 or 9.57 DOES NOT FIND PATHS TO THE CERTAIN PROGRAMS wrongly claiming that files of these programs "does not exist". I also compared the results of performance of Autoruns v. 9.12 and Autoruns v. 8.73, version 9.12 displays more results (correct ones)!

Edited by egrabrych, 04 September 2010 - 01:53 PM.


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As I said in post #30, it seems to me that all versions after 9.12 are buggy with Windows 98,
and are not giving more information.

The Autoruns v. 9.56 or 9.57 DOES NOT FIND PATHS TO THE CERTAIN PROGRAMS wrongly claiming that files of these programs "does not exist".
I also compared the results of performance of Autoruns v. 9.12 and Autoruns v. 8.73, version 9.12 displays more results (correct ones)!

Thanks to confirm this :) .

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So I dug into my own archives and tested each deceased version's predecessor until I successfully found older versions that run. This list is subject to change in the event that I am missing a release! Until I hear otherwise, I believe these are the last versions running on Win9x ...

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Du.exe .......... 1.0 ....... 53,248 ... 02-07-05 .... 4:43p ... ok (CMD Prompt)


As far as I can tell, DU version 1.2 (40960 bytes, 2005-10-15 2:56pm) works OK.

Aside :
Reading that only 11 utilities in the current suite are OK, it seems that the current suite is becoming more and more an irrelevance. Reading about partial loss of functionality, bloat, undesirable "phone home" features and restrictive license conditions in later versions of some utilities (that otherwise still work), leads me to think that ultimately, what will be most useful, will be a list of "best version for 9X" for these utilities. (IMHO)

Joe.

Edited by jds, 24 October 2010 - 08:10 AM.


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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2011-02-01..

Win9x fans will notice that ONE MORE utility no longer operates. The file LISTDLLS.EXE v3.0 fails on Win9x, so users would need to use v2.25 instead.

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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2011-05-03..

Win9x fans will notice no functional changes among the very few remaining compatible utilities distributed in the Suite.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


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Does anyone know of a 98 compatible freeware alternative to Sysinternals TDImon that has filtering ability? Filtering is disabled in the free version

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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2011-09-20..

Win9x fans will notice that ONE more utility no longer operates.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2012-04-16..

Win9x fans will notice that ONE more utility no longer operates.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


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UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2012-08-03.

Win9x fans will notice that ONE more utility no longer operates.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...





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