Jump to content

Welcome to MSFN Forum
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. This message will be removed once you have signed in.
Login to Account Create an Account



Photo

System Internals Utilities on Win9x

- - - - -

  • Please log in to reply
71 replies to this topic

#51
loblo

loblo

    Oldbie

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 763 posts
  • Joined 12-January 10
  • OS:ME
  • Country: Country Flag
What about OpenList, TDIMon, VCMon and VxdMon? :whistle:

:hello:


How to remove advertisement from MSFN

#52
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

What about OpenList, TDIMon, VCMon and VxdMon? :whistle:

:hello:


They are not distributed in the Suite (nor do they appear on the All Utilitites page). The top post dates to the fall of 2008 when VS2008 was being used to recompile the utilities and they began to fail on Win9x.

If you can create a list of the missing utilities from the earlier days I will dig them up from my own archives and others, and write a little section about them. I had meant to do this eventually. Thanks for reminding me.

-CTH-

Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot, 06 August 2012 - 02:33 PM.

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#53
Yushatak

Yushatak

    Newbie

  • Member
  • 18 posts
  • Joined 17-September 10
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag
Thanks for doing the work of keeping track of this, it saves me (and I'm sure others) lots of time!

Look forward to you integrating more utilities into the list as mentioned above.

Edited by Yushatak, 10 August 2012 - 08:59 PM.


#54
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
Over on the RegCompact for Win9x I have noted a possible bug in Process Explorer which I don't recall seeing before. Perhaps some others might try to reproduce it?

You will need to also have IrfanView and RegCompact present with the former, or, the former *and* the latter already running to experience the bug.

These were the result of my testing ...

; ProcExp version that never crashed ...
2005-08-22 - 13:29 ... 1,238,544 ... Procexp.exe v09.25

; ProcExp versions that crashed at launch when both IrfanView and RegCompact were already open ...
2006-02-09 - 13:53 ... 1,443,392 ... Procexp.exe v10.04
2006-02-22 - 15:31 ... 1,455,680 ... Procexp.exe v10.06
2006-05-10 - 16:28 ... 3,266,112 ... Procexp.exe v10.10
2006-05-11 - 10:38 ... 3,266,112 ... Procexp.exe v10.11
2006-07-12 - 12:59 ... 3,278,400 ... Procexp.exe v10.20
2006-11-01 - 14:07 ... 3,623,736 ... Procexp.exe v10.21

; ProcExp versions that crashed at launch when IrfanView was already open ...
2007-09-01 - 08:16 ... 3,585,408 ... Procexp.exe v11.00
2007-09-09 - 12:11 ... 3,589,160 ... Procexp.exe v11.01
2007-09-14 - 13:29 ... 3,589,160 ... Procexp.exe v11.02
2007-10-25 - 16:12 ... 3,609,640 ... Procexp.exe v11.03
2007-11-05 - 07:54 ... 3,564,584 ... Procexp.exe v11.04
2008-02-26 - 10:49 ... 3,654,696 ... Procexp.exe v11.10
2008-02-27 - 13:05 ... 3,654,696 ... Procexp.exe v11.11


So in other words, with just IrfanView running and then launching ProcExp v11.0 to 11.11 the bug occurs and ProcExp crashes.

For ProcExp versions 10.04 to 10.21 both IrfanView and RegCompact needed to be open to cause the crash. There may be more complex combinations that cause this crash as well.

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#55
TmEE

TmEE

    Mega Drive Modding Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 363 posts
  • Joined 17-September 08
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag
10.01 seems to work with Recompact and Irfanview together :
http://tiido.rocketc...SeemsToWork.png

...?
Posted Image Mida sa loed ? Nagunii aru ei saa ;)

#56
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

10.01 seems to work with Recompact and Irfanview together :
http://tiido.rocketc...SeemsToWork.png

...?


On Win9x?

Is there definitely a v10.01? Could you post or PM me a link because I must be missing it!

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#57
TmEE

TmEE

    Mega Drive Modding Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 363 posts
  • Joined 17-September 08
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag
Win98SE.

The file says 10.01 in properies aswell, anyway the link is here : http://tiido.rocketc...ss Explorer.exe
Posted Image Mida sa loed ? Nagunii aru ei saa ;)

#58
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Win98SE.

The file says 10.01 in properies aswell, anyway the link is here : http://tiido.rocketc...ss Explorer.exe


Okay thanks! Interesting because that version I cannot locate anywhere. It nearly matches my 10.04, same size, but dated one day earlier.

So what is the skin you got there on Win9x? Looks like a cross between Royale Noir and Metallic Shades :thumbup

EDIT: typo

Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot, 22 September 2012 - 06:41 PM.

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#59
PROBLEMCHYLD

PROBLEMCHYLD

    The Resurrector for old Windows OS

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,531 posts
  • Joined 07-October 05
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag
Seems to be a Process Explorer 10.02. I haven't found it yet.

Edited by PROBLEMCHYLD, 22 September 2012 - 07:59 PM.

Believe God is the Alpha and Omega.
Believe Jesus Christ died for our sins.
Repent for your sins now or there will be
BLOOD

The Path to God


U98SESP3 03-11-2013


#60
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Seems to be a Process Explorer 10.02. I haven't found it yet.

Me neither. And I have looked.

Here is the current list I have archived ( not counting a few special 64-bit versions, and maybe a couple of the latest which I didn't archive yet ) ...
2001-07-27 ... 08:10 ..... 176,128 ... ProcExp.exe_0510
2002-01-17 ... 05:40 ..... 180,224 ... ProcExp.exe_0523
2002-08-02 ... 10:16 ..... 192,512 ... ProcExp.exe_0525
2003-06-01 ... 10:12 ..... 217,088 ... ProcExp.exe_0603_(2003-06-01)
2003-06-06 ... 08:42 ..... 229,376 ... ProcExp.exe_0603_(2003-06-06)
2003-09-18 ... 08:31 ..... 237,568 ... ProcExp.exe_0702
2003-10-25 ... 06:07 ..... 299,008 ... ProcExp.exe_0800
2003-11-08 ... 16:44 ..... 303,104 ... ProcExp.exe_0803
2003-11-21 ... 15:18 ..... 340,023 ... ProcExp.exe_0810
2004-01-12 ... 22:45 ..... 487,479 ... ProcExp.exe_0820
2004-03-02 ... 09:53 ..... 512,055 ... ProcExp.exe_0832
2004-03-10 ... 17:25 ..... 520,247 ... ProcExp.exe_0833
2004-03-19 ... 06:17 ..... 520,247 ... ProcExp.exe_0834
2004-04-06 ... 07:23 ..... 520,247 ... ProcExp.exe_0835
2004-05-24 ... 23:05 ..... 536,631 ... ProcExp.exe_0840
2004-06-28 ... 09:06 ..... 536,631 ... ProcExp.exe_0841
2004-09-27 ... 11:13 ..... 548,919 ... ProcExp.exe_0850
2004-10-02 ... 12:42 ..... 548,919 ... ProcExp.exe_0852
2004-12-03 ... 16:01 ..... 561,207 ... ProcExp.exe_0860
2004-12-21 ... 15:06 ..... 561,207 ... ProcExp.exe_0861
2005-02-09 ... 06:25 ..... 456,208 ... ProcExp.exe_0900
2005-04-05 ... 09:26 ..... 456,208 ... ProcExp.exe_0903
2005-05-27 ... 20:34 ... 1,242,640 ... ProcExp.exe_0911
2005-06-15 ... 12:41 ... 1,242,640 ... ProcExp.exe_0912
2005-08-22 ... 13:29 ... 1,238,544 ... ProcExp.exe_0925
2012-09-22 ... 18:22 ... 1,443,392 ... ProcExp.exe_1001_misdated!_(2006-02-08)
2006-02-09 ... 13:53 ... 1,443,392 ... ProcExp.exe_1004
2006-02-22 ... 15:31 ... 1,455,680 ... ProcExp.exe_1006
2006-05-10 ... 16:28 ... 3,266,112 ... ProcExp.exe_1010
2006-05-11 ... 10:38 ... 3,266,112 ... ProcExp.exe_1011
2006-07-12 ... 12:59 ... 3,278,400 ... ProcExp.exe_1020
2006-11-01 ... 14:07 ... 3,623,736 ... ProcExp.exe_1021
2007-09-01 ... 08:16 ... 3,585,408 ... ProcExp.exe_1100
2007-09-09 ... 12:11 ... 3,589,160 ... ProcExp.exe_1101
2007-09-14 ... 13:29 ... 3,589,160 ... ProcExp.exe_1102
2007-10-25 ... 16:12 ... 3,609,640 ... ProcExp.exe_1103
2007-11-05 ... 07:54 ... 3,564,584 ... ProcExp.exe_1104
2008-02-26 ... 10:49 ... 3,654,696 ... ProcExp.exe_1110
2008-02-27 ... 13:05 ... 3,654,696 ... ProcExp.exe_1111_(Last-Win9x)
2008-04-04 ... 14:55 ... 3,522,072 ... ProcExp.exe_1112
2008-04-15 ... 08:09 ... 3,523,624 ... ProcExp.exe_1113
2008-05-28 ... 09:52 ... 3,522,600 ... ProcExp.exe_1120
2008-08-06 ... 17:27 ... 3,520,552 ... ProcExp.exe_1121
2008-11-18 ... 13:15 ... 3,549,552 ... ProcExp.exe_1130
2008-12-10 ... 14:40 ... 3,549,552 ... ProcExp.exe_1131
2009-01-09 ... 09:12 ... 3,550,064 ... ProcExp.exe_1132
2009-02-03 ... 10:32 ... 3,550,592 ... ProcExp.exe_1133
2010-03-24 ... 14:00 ... 3,925,880 ... ProcExp.exe_1200
2010-04-01 ... 11:26 ... 3,939,704 ... ProcExp.exe_1201
2010-04-12 ... 17:46 ... 3,905,400 ... ProcExp.exe_1202
2010-04-15 ... 08:01 ... 3,879,288 ... ProcExp.exe_1203
2010-06-07 ... 16:16 ... 3,887,480 ... ProcExp.exe_1204
2010-11-15 ... 11:45 ... 4,155,256 ... ProcExp.exe_1400
2010-11-22 ... 10:59 ... 4,177,272 ... ProcExp.exe_1401
2011-03-14 ... 12:52 ... 3,404,136 ... ProcExp.exe_1410
2011-05-02 ... 12:40 ... 3,412,856 ... ProcExp.exe_1411
2011-05-17 ... 12:48 ... 3,412,856 ... ProcExp.exe_1412
2011-07-07 ... 13:28 ... 4,754,224 ... ProcExp.exe_1500
2011-07-25 ... 12:40 ... 4,766,000 ... ProcExp.exe_1501
2011-08-15 ... 13:23 ... 4,768,032 ... ProcExp.exe_1502
2011-08-17 ... 11:35 ... 4,768,032 ... ProcExp.exe_1503
2011-08-31 ... 15:16 ... 4,846,880 ... ProcExp.exe_1504
2011-09-19 ... 10:36 ... 4,845,856 ... ProcExp.exe_1505
2011-12-02 ... 12:15 ... 4,755,768 ... ProcExp.exe_1510
2011-12-13 ... 15:54 ... 4,757,312 ... ProcExp.exe_1511
2012-01-10 ... 14:36 ... 4,763,456 ... ProcExp.exe_1512
2012-02-14 ... 14:10 ... 4,777,280 ... ProcExp.exe_1513
2012-06-05 ... 17:39 ... 2,674,800 ... ProcExp.exe_1520
2012-06-26 ... 13:01 ... 2,691,184 ... ProcExp.exe_1521
2012-07-11 ... 17:38 ... 2,691,192 ... ProcExp.exe_1522

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#61
TmEE

TmEE

    Mega Drive Modding Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPip
  • 363 posts
  • Joined 17-September 08
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag

So what is the skin you got there on Win9x? Looks like a cross between Royale Noir and Metallic Shades :thumbup

It is "Watercolor Emico Ergo Blue (Large Taskbar)" by Gelosea, with a small edit to make start menu button match taskbar height. Comes with Revolutions Pack 9
Posted Image Mida sa loed ? Nagunii aru ei saa ;)

#62
jds

jds

    -DOS+

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 603 posts
  • Joined 03-June 08
  • OS:98SE
  • Country: Country Flag

10.01 seems to work with Recompact and Irfanview together :
http://tiido.rocketc...SeemsToWork.png

...?

FWIW, 11.13 seems to work OK with these two apps together, with KernelEx.

Joe.

#63
Foxbat

Foxbat

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 122 posts
  • Joined 18-January 11
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
I did not experience any crashing in either scenario when starting ProcExp where IrfanView and RegCompact were already open or where IrfanView was already open.

Version tested:
RegCompact dated 2000-12-01
IrfanView 4.28
ProcExp 11.11

#64
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Win98SE.


FWIW, 11.13 seems to work OK with these two apps together, with KernelEx.


I did not experience any crashing in either scenario when starting ProcExp where IrfanView and RegCompact were already open or where IrfanView was already open.

Version tested:
RegCompact dated 2000-12-01
IrfanView 4.28
ProcExp 11.11

Does everyone confirm Win98se v4.10.2222 without KernelEx?

That's what I used. Fresh after reboots. No other programs running. The only other task listed was the Realtek audio.

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#65
Foxbat

Foxbat

    Member

  • Member
  • PipPip
  • 122 posts
  • Joined 18-January 11
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
No KernelEX. I have Revolutions Pack 9.7.2.

#66
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2013-01-11.

Win9x fans will notice no functional changes among the very few remaining compatible utilities distributed in the Suite.

-CTH-

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#67
Dude111

Dude111

    Banned

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 297 posts
  • Joined 01-October 08
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
I wanna be one of the ones to say THANK YOU for keeping the last working copies going!

I love these programs and I am greatful to have the original versions!! (Before MS told mark to change them all) -- Who knows what exactly they did to them besides add an EULA onto them...........

I have these:

Process Explorer - 9.25
TCP/IP Viewer - 2.34
autoruns - 8.31
Filemon - 7.02
Regmon - 7.02
 

Edited by Dude111, 30 August 2013 - 06:49 PM.


#68
CharlotteTheHarlot

CharlotteTheHarlot

    MSFN Master

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,054 posts
  • Joined 24-September 07
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
UPDATE TO POST #1

The top post has been re-written to describe the current ZIP package suite dated: 2013-10-25.

Win9x fans will notice 2 more utilities no longer function in Win9x.

-CTH-

Edited by CharlotteTheHarlot, 29 October 2013 - 06:47 AM.

... Let him who hath understanding reckon the Number Of The Beast ...


#69
Dude111

Dude111

    Banned

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 297 posts
  • Joined 01-October 08
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
Yup they keep making stupid/UN-NEEDED changes to these basic programs!!!!! (Makes ya wonder if they are doing it ON PURPOSE!!)

Edited by Dude111, 29 October 2013 - 04:24 PM.


#70
Nexes

Nexes
  • Member
  • 2 posts
  • Joined 08-May 13
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Hello guys. I'm a computer tech, and a friend of mine went to me today to ask me to revive an old Win98se computer. I told him i would get a look at it, but I greatly lack of tools to do maintenance of this old operating system. Would someone mind to send me a copy of the last pack of system internals utilities which are working on Win98 ?

And if this person can and accept to send me such a thing, is that ok if i share it around me, for these tools to remain avalaible in multiple places ?

Cheers,

Nexes



#71
jaclaz

jaclaz

    The Finder

  • Developer
  • 14,654 posts
  • Joined 23-July 04
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag
@Nexes
MIcrosoft acquired Sysinternals on July 18, 2006, you ONLY *need* previous versions of the Sysinternals utilities to "fix" a Windows 9x system, most of them are available through the Wayback Machine:
 https://web.archive....sinternals.com/
 
Which you will probably need to use anyway as most of the times the relevant page contains needed or interesting info.
 
Each specific utility (before the MS takeover) may (or may not) be redistributable, example (readme.txt for PortMon9x):
 

...
Terms of Use
------------

This software is provided "as is", without any guarantee made
as to its suitability or fitness for any particular use. It may
contain bugs, so use of this tool is at your own risk. We take
no responsilbity for any damage that may unintentionally be caused
through its use.

You may distribute this program freely in its original unaltered
form. However, you may not distribute this program with or as
part of a commercial release, or within a for-profit organization
without the express written consent of Mark Russinovich.
...

jaclaz

Edited by jaclaz, 17 November 2014 - 02:15 PM.


#72
Nexes

Nexes
  • Member
  • 2 posts
  • Joined 08-May 13
  • OS:none specified
  • Country: Country Flag

Thank you Jaclaz for this useful hint,

I didn't know that the wayback machine also stored zip archives.
That will greatly help me with the first post of this thread to get what I need.

I already went a few times on this forum to get some patches and tips for Win9x systems, the job of the community to "maintain" those OSes despite Microsoft "policy" is simply amazing.






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users