[CharlotteTheHarlot]

BACKGROUND INFORMATION: Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell from System Internals (SysInternals, Winternals, NTInternals) have been producing infinitely useful freeware administrative utilities for the Windows NT and 9x platforms for many years. THANK YOU guys for all that you have done (and continue to do for XP/Vista/7). During the summer of 2006 the company was assimilated by Microsoft and as many of us feared, the Win9x family of utilities is dwindling . This thread will attempt to audit the entire suite of utilities, their status on the Win9x platform and whatever can be done to restore compatibility. This topic is meant as a tiny supplement to the awesome work in Last-Versions-of-Software- for-Windows-98 by galahs (help yourself to any of this info galahs) and countless other MSFN members.

IMPORTANT! To ensure that this thread remains open I ask that you review the EULA for the free System Internals utilities and please do not violate the MSFN forum rules. Anyway, as the System Internals / Microsoft EULA reads now, there seems to be no legal way to 'reverse engineer' them at all so that would probably make patching them a questionable affair. Perhaps contacting Mark himself would be of some use, if only to get an official blessing or even his direct input. Mark, you are cordially invited to chime in here at any time! Also, considering that System Internals does not maintain any archives of previously released versions (well I cannot find them), the mods will need to decide if linking to them is ok. UPDATE: please see important info from forum moderator below at post #27. In summary, we can discuss the patching of these utilities but NO DISTRIBUTING of files is allowed, patched or unpatched.

NOTES: For the purposes of this discussion Win9x means Win98se, and testing is done on v4.10.2222 *without* the highly regarded KernelEx installed (some limited testing done on WinME also, but does anyone really care? Just kidding!). Members might also want to report their specific experiences using the utilities on Win95 to enhance our general knowledge base.
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AUDIT UPDATE: 2013-01-18 (previous was 2012-08-06).
Long story short: No changes for Win9x
- Utilities ADDED=1
- Utilities SUBTRACTED=0
- Utilities UPDATED=16
This post now reflects the Suite dated January 11, 2013.
The ZIP distribution now contains 71 executable Windows binaries ...

--- FILENAME ----------- SIZE -------- DATE ------ TIME --- VERSION
Accesschk.exe ......... 331,888 ... 2012-08-01 ... 13:27 ... 5.10
Accessenum.exe ........ 174,968 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 1.32
Adexplorer.exe ........ 479,832 ... 2012-11-14 ... 10:22 ... 1.44 (UPDATED)
Adinsight.exe ....... 1,049,640 ... 2007-11-20 ... 13:25 ... 1.01
Adrestore.exe ......... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.1
Autologon.exe ......... 148,856 ... 2011-02-22 ... 15:18 ... 3.01
Autoruns.exe .......... 654,424 ... 2013-01-09 ... 14:26 .. 11.40 (UPDATED)
Autorunsc.exe ......... 571,480 ... 2013-01-09 ... 14:26 .. 11.40 (UPDATED)
Bginfo.exe ............ 844,648 ... 2009-09-30 ... 01:31 ... 4.16
Cacheset.exe .......... 154,424 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... ?.?
Clockres.exe .......... 151,936 ... 2009-06-03 ... 22:36 ... 2.0
Contig.exe ............ 207,960 ... 2012-11-14 ... 10:22 ... 1.70 (UPDATED)
Coreinfo.exe ........ 1,479,256 ... 2012-11-14 ... 10:22 ... 3.20 (UPDATED)
Ctrl2cap.exe .......... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... ?.?
Dbgview.exe ........... 468,056 ... 2012-12-03 ... 10:10 ... 4.81 (UPDATED)
Desktops.exe .......... 116,824 ... 2012-10-17 ... 18:28 ... 2.00 (UPDATED)
Disk2vhd.exe ........ 1,766,264 ... 2010-10-12 ... 12:56 ... 1.63
Diskext.exe ............ 87,424 ... 2007-05-14 ... 08:42 ... 1.1
Diskmon.exe ........... 224,056 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 2.01
Diskview.exe .......... 580,984 ... 2010-03-24 ... 14:00 ... 2.40
Du.exe ................ 222,520 ... 2011-12-02 ... 13:15 ... 1.40
Efsdump.exe ........... 146,232 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.02
Findlinks.exe ......... 103,216 ... 2011-07-07 ... 13:28 ... 1.00
Handle.exe ............ 462,456 ... 2012-07-11 ... 17:41 ... 3.50
Hex2dec.exe ........... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... ?.?
Junction.exe .......... 150,392 ... 2010-09-07 ... 15:39 ... 1.06
Ldmdump.exe ........... 154,424 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 1.03
Listdlls.exe .......... 520,496 ... 2011-07-07 ... 13:28 ... 3.1
Livekd.exe ............ 539,736 ... 2012-10-17 ... 18:28 ... 5.30 (UPDATED)
Loadord.exe ........... 154,424 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... ?.?
Logonsessions.exe ..... 261,496 ... 2010-04-30 ... 11:43 ... 1.21
Movefile.exe .......... 146,232 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.0
Ntfsinfo.exe .......... 122,680 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.01
Pagedfrg.exe .......... 215,928 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 2.32
Pendmoves.exe ......... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.1
Pipelist.exe .......... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.01
Portmon.exe ........... 451,392 ... 2012-01-13 ... 17:35 ... 3.03
Procdump.exe .......... 462,936 ... 2013-01-09 ... 14:26 ... 5.12 (UPDATED)
Procexp.exe ......... 2,712,200 ... 2012-10-02 ... 14:03 .. 15.23 (UPDATED)
Procmon.exe ......... 2,474,608 ... 2012-07-11 ... 17:45 ... 3.03
Psexec.exe ............ 381,816 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 1.98
Psfile.exe ............ 105,264 ... 2006-12-04 ... 17:53 ... 1.02
Psgetsid.exe .......... 333,176 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 1.44
Psinfo.exe ............ 390,520 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 1.77
Pskill.exe ............ 468,592 ... 2012-06-21 ... 23:34 ... 1.15
Pslist.exe ............ 232,232 ... 2012-03-22 ... 15:53 ... 1.30
Psloggedon.exe ........ 183,160 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 1.34
Psloglist.exe ......... 178,040 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 2.71
Pspasswd.exe .......... 171,608 ... 2012-10-17 ... 18:28 ... 1.23 (UPDATED)
Psping.exe ............ 167,048 ... 2012-10-02 ... 14:03 ... 1.00 (recently added) Vista and above!
Psservice.exe ......... 169,848 ... 2010-04-27 ... 11:04 ... 2.24
Psshutdown.exe ........ 207,664 ... 2006-12-04 ... 17:53 ... 2.52
Pssuspend.exe ......... 187,184 ... 2006-12-04 ... 17:53 ... 1.06
Rammap.exe ............ 581,744 ... 2012-07-11 ... 17:35 ... 1.21
Regdelnull.exe ........ 162,616 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 1.10
Regjump.exe ........... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.01
Rootkitrevealer.exe ... 334,720 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:07 ... 1.70
Sdelete.exe ........... 155,736 ... 2013-01-09 ... 14:26 ... 1.61 (UPDATED)
Shareenum.exe ......... 260,976 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:07 ... 1.6
Shellrunas.exe ........ 103,464 ... 2008-02-27 ... 18:51 ... 1.01
Sigcheck.exe .......... 231,048 ... 2012-10-02 ... 14:03 ... 1.81 (UPDATED)
Streams.exe ............ 87,424 ... 2007-04-27 ... 10:17 ... 1.56
Strings.exe ........... 136,312 ... 2012-05-09 ... 11:08 ... 2.50
Sync.exe .............. 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 2.2
Tcpvcon.exe ........... 199,544 ... 2010-07-28 ... 15:47 ... 3.01
Tcpview.exe ........... 300,832 ... 2011-07-25 ... 12:40 ... 3.05
Vmmap.exe ........... 1,056,392 ... 2012-09-10 ... 09:16 ... 3.11 (UPDATED)
Volumeid.exe .......... 154,424 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 2.01
Whois.exe ............. 144,984 ... 2012-10-17 ... 18:28 ... 1.11 (UPDATED)
Winobj.exe ............ 729,464 ... 2011-02-14 ... 12:37 ... 2.22
Zoomit.exe ............ 591,448 ... 2012-12-06 ... 09:28 ... 4.41 (UPDATED) ###

### ... NOTE: there was a short-lived utility called Zoomit64.exe that briefly appeared around October 2012 and disappeared in December 2012. I am currently unsure why this happened. I am going to presume that like other utilities Mark has written, Zoomit.exe is likely a 32-bit and 64-bit hybrid.

NOTE: The following utilities no longer appear in the SysInternals Suite ZIP distribution ...
Diskmnt.exe ........... 191,288 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 1.1 ............ (removed circa 2009-Jun)
Reghide.exe ........... 146,232 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... ?.? ............ (removed circa 2009-Jun)
Physmem.exe ........... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.0 ............ (removed circa 2009-Jul)
Filemon.exe ........... 748,344 ... 2006-11-06 ... 12:55 ... 7.04 ........... (removed circa 2009-Sep)
Regmon.exe ............ 707,384 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:07 ... 7.04 ........... (removed circa 2009-Sep)
Newsid.exe ............ 228,152 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... 4.10 ........... (removed circa 2009-Nov)
Procfeatures.exe ...... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... 1.1 ............ (removed circa 2011-Sep)
Pdh.dll ............... 155,960 ... 2012-03-22 ... 13:24 ... 5.00.2195.1600 . (removed circa 2012-Mar)
Zoomit64.exe .......... 294,520 ... 2012-07-17 ... 23:59 ... 4.31 ........... (added circa 2012-Oct, removed 2012-Dec)


Of those, a total of 49 are clearly not meant for Win9x (e.g., NTFS, ADS, ACL etc.) or have not ever worked traditionally. Just for the record, here are the usual results when running them under Win9x ...

- FILENAME ---------------- RESULT -------------------------------------------------
Accesschk.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The ACCESSCHK.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Accessenum.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The ACCESSENUM.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetUserGetLocalGroups.
Adexplorer.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The ADEXPLORER.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Adinsight.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The PSAPI.DLL file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:_stricmp.
Adrestore.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The ACTIVEDS.DLL file is linked to missing export NTDLL.DLL:RtlInitUnicodeString.
Autologon.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The AUTOLOGON.EXE file is linked to missing export ADVAPI32.DLL:LsaOpenPolicy.
Cacheset.exe .......... Cacheset: Not running on Windows NT
Contig.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The CONTIG.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Coreinfo.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The COREINFO.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Ctrl2cap.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The CTRL2CAP.EXE file is linked to missing export ADVAPI32.DLL:CheckTokenMembership.
Desktops.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The DESKTOPS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Disk2vhd.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The DISK2VHD.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Diskext.exe ........... CONSOLE MESSAGE: DiskExt requires Win2K or higher.
Diskmon.exe ........... Diskmon: This version of Diskmon requires Windows 2000 or higher.
Diskview.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The DISKVIEW.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Efsdump.exe ........... Error Starting Program: The EFSDUMP.EXE file is linked to missing export ADVAPI32.DLL:QueryUsersOnEncryptedFile.
Findlinks.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The FINDLINKS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Junction.exe .......... *** CMD EXECUTES OK (but not useful for Win9x)
Ldmdump.exe ........... *** CMD EXECUTES OK (but not useful for Win9x)
Livekd.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The LIVEKD.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Loadord.exe ........... EMPTY WINDOW or: LOADORD CAUSED AN INVALID PAGE FAULT IN MODULE LOADORD.EXE AT 017F:00401311.
Logonsessions.exe ..... Error Starting Program: The LOGONSESSIONS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Ntfsinfo.exe .......... *** CMD EXECUTES OK (but not useful for Win9x)
Pagedfrg.exe .......... Pagefile Defragger: Not running on Windows NT/2K.
Pipelist.exe .......... CONSOLE MESSAGE: Could not find NtQueryDirectoryFile entry point in NTDLL.DLL.
Procdump.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The PROCDUMP.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Procmon.exe ........... Error Starting Program: The PROCMON.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version. CONSOLE MESSAGE: A device attached to the system is not functioning.
Psexec.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The PSEXEC.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Psfile.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The PSFILE.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetFileGetInfo.
Psgetsid.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The PSGETSID.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetApiBufferFree.
Psinfo.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The PSINFO.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetServerEnum.
Pskill.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The PSKILL.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Pslist.exe ............ CONSOLE MESSAGE: pslist requires Windows NT/2000/XP/2003.
Psloggedon.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The PSLOGGEDON.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetApiBufferFree.
Psloglist.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The PSLOGLIST.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetApiBufferFree.
Pspasswd.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The PSPASSWD.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetApiBufferFree.
Psping.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The PSPING.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Psservice.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The PSSERVICE.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetServerEnum.
Psshutdown.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The PSSHUTDOWN.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetApiBufferFree.
Pssuspend.exe ......... CONSOLE MESSAGE: PsSuspend requires Windows NT/2000/XP/2003.
Rammap.exe ............ Error Starting Program: The RAMMAP.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Regdelnull.exe ........ REGDELNULL caused an invalid page fault in module REGDELNULL.EXE at 017f:00402656.
Rootkitrevealer.exe ... (nothing)
Shareenum.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The SHAREENUM.EXE file is linked to missing export NETAPI32.DLL:NetGetDCName.
Shellrunas.exe ........ Error Starting Program: A required .DLL file, CREDUI.DLL was not found.
Sigcheck.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The SIGCHECK.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Streams.exe ........... *** CMD EXECUTES OK (but not useful for Win9x)
Vmmap.exe ............. Error Starting Program: The VMMAP.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Winobj.exe ............ WinObj: Could not locate required functions in NTDLL.DLL. This version of Windows NT may be incompatible with WinObj.

NOTE: The following non-Win9x utilities no longer appear in the SysInternals Suite ZIP distribution ...
Diskmnt.exe ........... Diskmon: Not running on Windows NT 4. Get Diskmon for Windows 2000 amd higher from SysInternals.
Newsid.exe ............ (nothing)
Physmem.exe ........... CONSOLE MESSAGE: Unable to locate NTDLL entry points.
Reghide.exe ........... (nothing)


Of the remaining 22 Win9x traditionally compatible utilities, 6 still work ok, but a total of 16 of these have become deceased ...

- FILENAME ---------------- RESULT -------------------------------------------------
Autoruns.exe ....... Error Starting Program: The AUTORUNS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Autorunsc.exe ...... Error Starting Program: The AUTORUNSC.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Bginfo.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The BGINFO.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version. CONSOLE MESSAGE: A device attached to the system is not functioning.
Clockres.exe ....... Error Starting Program: The CLOCKRES.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Dbgview.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The DBGVIEW.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Du.exe ............. Error Starting Program: The DU.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Handle.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The HANDLE.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Hex2dec.exe ........ ok (DOS Prompt)
Listdlls.exe ....... Error Starting Program: The LISTDLLS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Movefile.exe ....... ok (DOS Prompt)
Pendmoves.exe ...... ok (DOS Prompt)
Portmon.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The PORTMON.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Procexp.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The PROCEXP.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Regjump.exe ........ ok (DOS Prompt)
Sdelete.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The SDELETE.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Strings.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The STRINGS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Sync.exe ........... ok (DOS Prompt)
Tcpvcon.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The TCPVCON.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Tcpview.exe ........ Error Starting Program: The TCPVIEW.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version.
Volumeid.exe ....... ok (DOS Prompt)
Whois.exe .......... Error Starting Program: The WHOIS.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version. *** Latest Casuality ***
Zoomit.exe ......... Error Starting Program: The ZOOMIT.EXE file expects a newer version of Windows. Upgrade your Windows version. CONSOLE MESSAGE: A device attached to the system is not functioning.

NOTE: The following Win9x utilities no longer appear in the Suite ZIP distribution ...
Filemon.exe ........ ok (Windows)
Regmon.exe ......... ok (Windows)
Procfeatures.exe ... ok (DOS Prompt) (removed circa 2012-Mar)


So I dug into my own archives and tested each deceased version's predecessor until I successfully found older versions that run. This list is subject to change in the event that I am missing a release! Until I hear otherwise, I believe these are the last versions running on Win9x ...

Autoruns.exe .... 9.13 ..... 603,176 ... 2008-02-25 ... 12:44 ... ok (Windows)
Autorunsc.exe ... 9.13 ..... 513,064 ... 2008-02-25 ... 12:44 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Bginfo.exe ...... 4.07 ..... 741,421 ... 2004-09-22 ... 15:46 ... ok (Windows)
Clockres.exe .... ?.?? ..... 150,328 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:05 ... ok (DOS Prompt) ***
Dbgview.exe ..... 4.74 ..... 480,296 ... 2007-11-26 ... 13:21 ... ok (Windows)
Du.exe .......... 1.0 ....... 53,248 ... 2005-02-07 ... 16:43 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Handle.exe ...... 3.30 ..... 373,800 ... 2007-10-11 ... 11:26 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Listdlls.exe .... 2.25 ..... 170,808 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Portmon.exe ..... 3.02 ..... 363,320 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:07 ... ok (Windows)
Procexp.exe .... 11.11 ... 3,654,696 ... 2008-02-27 ... 13:05 ... ok (Windows)
Sdelete.exe ..... 1.51 ..... 166,712 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14:06 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Strings.exe ..... 2.40 ...... 91,520 ... 2007-04-24 ... 11:38 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Tcpvcon.exe ..... 2.52 ..... 132,136 ... 2008-01-03 ... 11:40 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Tcpview.exe ..... 2.53 ..... 148,520 ... 2008-01-09 ... 16:38 ... ok (Windows)
Whois.exe ....... 1.01 ..... 158,520 ... 2006-11-01 ... 14.06 ... ok (DOS Prompt)
Zoomit.exe ...... 1.80 ..... 148,520 ... 2008-03-07 ... 10:11 ... ok (Windows)

*** This file has no discernible version, use the date of 2006-11-01 to identify it. Note that the current non-Win9x release of the file does contain a version of 2.0.

BTW, you may have noticed that several of them went belly-up a few years ago ( e.g., BGINFO ), but most seem directly related to the very recent Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 compiler bugs. I expect more of these utilities to stop working as Mark recompiles with VS2008. My testing shows this common denominator: versions: linker 9.0, OS 5.0, file: 0.0, subsystem: 4.0

Also note that although the version 7.x releases of FILEMON and REGMON do run on Win9x, I am aware of some stability issues and minor GUI errors (toolbar buttons and SAVE AS function) so, IMHO the 6.x versions are actually more stable. Regardless, I do in fact use the 7.04 versions on Win9x systems successfully.

It should be noted that one of the newer utilities: RAMMAP.EXE requires Vista or higher. This means that both Win9x and WinXP are now victims of Microsoft's latest compilers. If this is the case, we can expect many new apps from here on out to fail as well. ADDED: Psping.exe also requires Vista or higher.

Formatting Adjustment: I finally completed switching the filelists over to the more sensible YYYY-MM-DD date plus 24-hour time format. Previously files were displayed as MM-DD-YY with 12-hour AM/PM in the tradtitional Win9x COMMAND.COM directory output seen on a typical Win9x computer with the default time format set in the systray.

Well, that's all for now, more to come later. Please inform me of any errors, typographic or otherwise.

EDIT: 2009-04-15 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2009-04-08.
EDIT: 2009-08-28 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2009-08-26.
EDIT: 2009-12-20 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2009-12-01.
EDIT: 2010-04-17 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2010-04-15.
EDIT: 2010-08-23 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2010-08-02.
EDIT: 2011-02-14 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2011-02-01.
EDIT: 2011-05-05 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2011-05-03.
EDIT: 2011-10-13 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2011-09-20.
EDIT: 2012-05-07 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2012-04-16.
EDIT: 2012-08-06 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2012-08-03.
EDIT: 2013-01-18 ... this post now reflects the SysInternals Suite dated : 2013-01-11.

This post has been edited by CharlotteTheHarlot: 18 January 2013 - 01:50 PM

[willperk]

Would someone tell me why the above post runs off the screen .... I have to scroll back and forth horizontally to read the post. Is this a problem with settings on my computer? I'm running 98se + IE6 (recent new install + AP).
I can read most other threads w/o having to scroll.
Help/advise appreciated. -- willperk

[Sfor]

I can confirm. I'm using IE6 + Win98, as well.

Everything works correctly with Firefox 2.

[jaclaz]

Sfor, on Sep 3 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

Everything works correctly with Firefox 2.

Everything OK on Opera, too.

jaclaz

[herbalist]

I couldn't help but notice that right after MS bought Sysinternals, many of their utilities became quite a bit larger in size, with no obvious changes in the way they work or their features.
Examples:
Process Explorer
Version 10.04 is 1.37MB
Version 10.21 is 3.45MB

Regmon
Version 7.03 is 417KB
Version 7.04 is 600KB

Filemon
Version 7.03 is 436KB
Version 7.04 is 730KB

I see no real changes in any of these from the last Sysinternals versions to the MS versions, except that the "save as" option of the MS versions of Filemon and Regmon doesn't work on 98. The previous versions do. I really have to wonder just what they changed that nearly doubled their size or even more.

Regarding the EULA, if we work with versions that were released before MS bought them, the old EULA applies, not the new one.

I have copies of all the Sysinternals utilities from before the purchase if anyone needs them.
Rick

This post has been edited by herbalist: 03 September 2008 - 02:56 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Can someone send me Zoomit 1.80 please.

[willperk]

@ Sfor and jaclaz ..... thank you both for your replies.
I find it strange the malfunction occurs only on certain posts .....

- For the 1st 3 pgs. of the "Latest SFTWR Version", all 60 Posts are readable w/o scrolling.
- On the 1st Page only of the "Last MB - - - - " thread, Post(s) 2,10 & 11 do NOT fit, and require horiz. scrolling.

I guess if I could interpret the "source" code, I might be able to distinguish some commonality there.

I am trying - for the 1st time - Accessibility Options for visual enhancement of fonts and mouse arrows. Perhaps this has something to do with this abnormality.

Sfor - does your confirm mean you get the same display on 98SE + IE6 ?

If I pursue this problem any further, I'll just start a new topic on this forum. I had read some previous posts a few days ago re the Sys-Internals subject, and was interested in following it up. I don't post much, but am a longtime visitor ...... thanks to both of you for helping to keep 98SE alive and functioning.
-- willperk

[dencorso]

willperk, on Sep 4 2008, 02:16 AM, said:

Sfor - does your confirm mean you get the same display on 98SE + IE6 ?

Probably. Here I've got the same problem also. I run Win 98SE with 98SE2ME and a fully updated IE6SP1. I do think it is related to CODEBOXes, because I've seen it happen elsewhere on these forums, also when CODEBOXes were involved. HTH

[jaclaz]

Quite strangely, I happened a number of times to experiment, here, or on boot-land or on 911CD, the same problem you describe with my Opera, but in my case, a "reverse" one, it has always been due to "long" lines inside [ code ] [ / code ] tags, changing them to [ codebox ] [ / codebox] tags solved the problem.

jaclaz

[dencorso]

@jaclaz: You're right, of course! It's my bad: I wrote CODEBOX, but I was thinking CODE instead. Yet I think you've hit jackpot if all that's required is to change CODE for CODEBOX!!!

@CharlotteTheHarlot: Would you please change your CODE tags for CODEBOX on post #1 so that we may see whether jaclaz's solution works? Thanks a lot!

This post has been edited by dencorso: 04 September 2008 - 02:25 AM

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

Guys, let me know if you need me to edit anything else in that post. They were and still are CODEBOX (not CODE) tags.

I believe any horizontal problem involving the entire post would be related to that last part which was using a fixed-width Courier font outside of any CODEBOX (the green and red on the MSFN blue). It just looked cooler that way and also preserved the characters lining up vertically. I could just throw that into a CODEBOX which automatically provides the fixed-width font. EDIT: done!

I noted one other difference too: *outside* of a CODEBOX multiple spaces are truncated to one, hence you see creative use of periods to pad the filetimes which do not have leading zeros/digits and filesize differences.

Using Opera 9.51 here. Looks as designed. The only horizontal scrollbars that Opera shows are for those long lines *within* the CODEBOXs.

I am afraid to fire up MSIE to check! Anyway, please let me know what you think is the best way. There is no sense in letting the top post bust the thread for those folks using inferior browsers.

EDIT: ... ok, it has been fixed (I hope). Remember to F5 Refresh or delete the cache. Let me know if all is good now. I wanted to fix that fast before someone quoted the whole thing and propogated the error!

P.S. has anyone else noticed a difference in Opera 9.5x vs 9.2x cache behavior? Seems I am getting more stale pages all of a sudden within a thread, and, 'read' topics that look like 'unread' topics on each forum's main page.

This post has been edited by CharlotteTheHarlot: 04 September 2008 - 07:34 AM

[willperk]

CharlotteTheHarlot, on Sep 4 2008, 04:01 AM, said:

EDIT: ... ok, it has been fixed (I hope). Remember to F5 Refresh or delete the cache. Let me know if all is good now. I wanted to fix that fast before someone quoted the whole thing and propogated the error!

Your Post #1 still reads as I described in my Post #2.
I did remove all cookies & files via Tools > Temporary Internet Files.

I can read your post #11 w/o any scrolling ..... the same for all posts after your Post #11.

Thanks for your followup and helpful cooperation.
-- willperk

[duffy98]

herbalist - Rick,

I'd be interested in having copies of the 3 programs that you mentioned ... what versions are you talking about ... the smaller size versions ... I do not have version 10.04 of Process Explorer and I do not have version 7.03 of Regmon and Filemon. I have version 7.04 ... since I read your post I have been looking on Google for an active download link to these versions and every link seems to be dead or goes to Microsoft for versions 7.04. I'd like to get a copy of that smaller version (10.04) of Process Explorer to try out ... I can probably live with versions 7.04 of Filemon and Regmon unless it would be possible for someone to post an active link or if you have them available for download. thanks ...

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Examples:
Process Explorer
Version 10.04 is 1.37MB (would like this one)
Version 10.21 is 3.45MB

Regmon
Version 7.03 is 417KB (would like this one)
Version 7.04 is 600KB

Filemon
Version 7.03 is 436KB (would like this one)
Version 7.04 is 730KB

I see no real changes in any of these from the last Sysinternals versions to the MS versions, except that the "save as" option of the MS versions of Filemon and Regmon doesn't work on 98. The previous versions do. I really have to wonder just what they changed that nearly doubled their size or even more.

Regarding the EULA, if we work with versions that were released before MS bought them, the old EULA applies, not the new one.

I have copies of all the Sysinternals utilities from before the purchase if anyone needs them.
Rick
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as far as having trouble with reading the top post ... I also have to scroll way to the right to read it. ... using IE 6 and Win 98SE.

thanks,
duffy98

This post has been edited by duffy98: 06 September 2008 - 08:40 AM

[duffy98]

herbalist - CharlotteTheHarlot,

I was able to get Process Explorer version 10.21 at FileHippo ... I have been using version 11.11 so I guess the last "10" version (v10.21) will be fine.... I will just live with the version 7.04 for FileMon and RegMon ... they seem to work OK with Windows 98SE. I use a program called Memload to see how much resources a program or a particular version uses. Neat little program for Win 98, in case somebody never heard of it. You can test different versions with it to see if there is much of a difference in resources being used.

Keep the information flowing ...

duffy98

[herbalist]

Duffy,
Check your messages.

[herbalist]

Regarding the displaying of the first post, with 98FE and IE6, the page is much wider than the screen. With SeaMonkey 1.1.9, everything fits very nicely on the screen. Same with K-meleon 1.5.0. With SeaMonkey, all but the first codebox have both vertical and horizontal scrollbars.

With IE6, only the 2nd codebox has a horizontal scrollbar. I'm guessing that it's the 3rd codebox that's making the screen so wide when such an inferior browser is used.

The rest of the posts are normal in all the browsers I have.
Rick

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

Folks, I have been messing around with that first post in MSIE (version 6.0.2800.1106). I shortened up the longest lines that are in those CODEBOXes. Still looks like crap!

I am on a Win9x box at the moment without MSIE7. Can anyone comment on the width using that version? One would think that this issue may have come across a computer screen up in Redmond sometime during the last 7-ish years!

Unless the MSFN site software is customizeable with respect to endusers using MSIE, perhaps with targeted style sheets via some creative scripting, well, I just don't see an easy solution.

Maybe endusers themselves that use MSIE can use a custom stylesheet for this site (and others with the same forum host software).

I see that Opera works flawlessly here. I hear that Mozilla does also.

I would hate to use a content reducing solution (i.e., limit text width within a CODEBOX) so that a POS browser does not choke on visual output. I mean, its not like this is a serious Acid Test.

More suggestions please! I have more System Internals information to add to this thread but I would like to solve this issue somehow first.

[RetroOS]

Google is normally your friend, but here the Internet Archive Wayback Machine is your friend!

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sy...als.com/Files/*

and (case sensitive),

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sy...als.com/files/*

You'll find most revisions of Sysinternals tools archived here.
An added bonus is the source code that is all but gone since M$ "took over management"...

You can see in the list of snapshot dates when files change by an asterisk next to the date.

Many revisions of the original home page can be viewed from:

http://web.archive.o...ysinternals.com

If you've got lots of time on your hands, you can search through the entire site's files and revisions including the original web pages and forums using:

http://web.archive.o...internals.com/*

Happy searching!

[herbalist]

I've found that the wayback machine doesn't always have the file versions that went with the page dates. Tried doing what you suggested with a different program. The download links were often dead or linked to a newer version than what was on the page.

[CharlotteTheHarlot]

BUMPING THIS THREAD.

Looking for MSIE 6/7/8 users to examine this page, specifically the page width on the first post (read above discussion).

Need advice and if possible comment on my ideas in Post #17

Also, have any users of Firefox/Mozilla/Opera/(other) noticed any page width anomolies? So far they seem immune.

Thanks! CTH