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#41 User is offline   YACO 

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:06 PM

View PostYACO, on Dec 4 2008, 12:06 AM, said:

So... i'm removing something that is causing Hibernation on Windows 7 not to work... i really need hibernation. Does anyone know what could it be? (i'm removing pretty much everything (except for manual setup).

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So I figured out what it was: if you remove "Crash and Dump Support" you won't get hibernation on windows 7. :thumbup

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Posted 05 December 2008 - 06:17 AM

this also happens under Vista when you remove Crash Dump Support.

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 09:53 AM

would've been nice to know a few days earlier : :whistle:

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 10:59 AM

also... "System Restore" is another component that is required for windows 7 to work:

System Restore
Crash Dump Report
Manual Setup

Don't Customize Owner Info

and I'd Protect the followin files to be able to user Blue Badge and Hibernation:
Windows\System32\wisptis.exe
Windows\System32\ieframe.dll
Windows\System32\shell32.dll
Windows\System32\stobject.dll
Windows\System32\TabletPC.cpl
Windows\System32\themecpl.dll
Windows\System32\themeui.dll
Windows\System32\powercfg.cpl
Windows\System32\drivers\diskdump.sys
Windows\System32\drivers\dumpata.sys


Other than that, you can pretty much remove everything else you want/don't need.

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 12:57 PM

Does anyone know how to make vLite work with Windows 7? The installer didn't even load, just throwing out bunch of UI error...

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 08:17 AM

Getting an error when i vLite win7 6956:

"Windows could not apply unattend settings during pass [offlineSerciving]"

Help, Anyone?

-YACO


SOLVED: I deleted autounattend.xml from the installation folder and it's installing just fine :thumbup

This post has been edited by YACO: 07 December 2008 - 08:31 AM


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Posted 07 December 2008 - 11:24 AM

it seems that with build 6956 we should leave alone the Unattended part, it installed fine if I removed the components, but if i touched the unattended part, it failed to install with the same error you got

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 06:27 PM

View PostYACO, on Dec 6 2008, 11:59 AM, said:

System Restore
Crash Dump Report
Manual Setup

Hummm, you gotta keep manual setup? That's an odd one if you're clean installing. But I did get errors when I removed it.

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Posted 11 December 2008 - 07:02 PM

View Postspacesurfer, on Dec 11 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

View PostYACO, on Dec 6 2008, 11:59 AM, said:

System Restore
Crash Dump Report
Manual Setup

Hummm, you gotta keep manual setup? That's an odd one if you're clean installing. But I did get errors when I removed it.


i think cos when u choose that vlite remove unneed files from boot.wim

that why we getting boot errors

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 05:51 AM

View PostYACO, on Dec 7 2008, 03:17 PM, said:

Getting an error when i vLite win7 6956:

"Windows could not apply unattend settings during pass [offlineSerciving]"

Help, Anyone?

-YACO


SOLVED: I deleted autounattend.xml from the installation folder and it's installing just fine :thumbup



How did you delete it ?
Did you edit the iso file and what program did you do it with?
Because i deleted the file aswel and did that with power iso and then burned the bootable iso..
It did not help in anyway to delte the file..so i,m wondering how you did it

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Posted 12 December 2008 - 07:11 PM

I'm rocking 6895 here also. I've tested a few various Vlite builds of it on 3 different systems. My main one is my HP 8510p notebook, another is a Dell D630 notebook and the 3rd one is an ancient Gateway E series that has 1 gig of ram and a 2.4 ghz PIII cpu.

I'm shocked at how fast this OS runs. I thought folks were just blowing smoke when they claimed it was as fast, if not faster than XP. Man they were right. On that Gateway, straight out of a fresh install, it's a hair quicker than a fresh XP install with all patches and SP3.

A few drivers that aren't supported (intel video drivers) but it does a nice job of stopping the loading process and asking you to go to last known good config. The interface runs smoothly on all systems as wel. Much quicker using Aero than with Vista and system resources are more or less almost all there.



I'm also getting that error with the unattended setup though. It's not a huge deal though. I'm going to try to run a sysprep proceedure like with vista that has all of the info filled out to see if it works or not.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 07:57 AM

View PostFastRedPonyCar, on Dec 13 2008, 02:11 AM, said:

I'm rocking 6895 here also. I've tested a few various Vlite builds of it on 3 different systems. My main one is my HP 8510p notebook, another is a Dell D630 notebook and the 3rd one is an ancient Gateway E series that has 1 gig of ram and a 2.4 ghz PIII cpu.

I'm shocked at how fast this OS runs. I thought folks were just blowing smoke when they claimed it was as fast, if not faster than XP. Man they were right. On that Gateway, straight out of a fresh install, it's a hair quicker than a fresh XP install with all patches and SP3.

A few drivers that aren't supported (intel video drivers) but it does a nice job of stopping the loading process and asking you to go to last known good config. The interface runs smoothly on all systems as wel. Much quicker using Aero than with Vista and system resources are more or less almost all there.



I'm also getting that error with the unattended setup though. It's not a huge deal though. I'm going to try to run a sysprep proceedure like with vista that has all of the info filled out to see if it works or not.


i just hear from msfn worker its piracy to talk about things like this..

I hear

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 08:55 AM

View Poststudio48, on Dec 15 2008, 07:57 AM, said:

i just hear from msfn worker its piracy to talk about things like this..

I hear


I hear it's not when you're a MSDN member/tester... which I am.

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Posted 15 December 2008 - 03:42 PM

no Win7 builds are released to Technet/MSDN, so no one has official Win7 Builds unless you were at the PDC08 at got the 6801 on the harddrive

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 02:06 PM

Ok made an modified dvd of win 7 build 6956, and tablet pc pen didn't worked until i copied Magnification.dll into system32 folder.
i think this file might need to be protected.
I installed it without system restore and User Account Control. It seems to be a big mistake.

Also v-lite put an product key into unattended xml which didn't let me to install until i manualy deleted <key> tag.
i removed 3 GB(media Center/speach/etc..) from the instalation dvd but after instalation i got only 1 GB freed in plus of a normal install.

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  Posted 19 December 2008 - 06:13 PM

View Poststudio48, on Dec 15 2008, 01:57 PM, said:

i just hear from msfn worker its piracy to talk about things like this..


How can it be piracy to talk?

No one can tell people what they can or can't talk about, except whats in the MSFN rules, which you people sometimes take too far, why not actually read the rules to check if talking about Windows 7 amounts to piracy? It doesn't. It just says no links to warez or posting info like serial keys, or how to crack something, well if all we are doing is talking about Windows 7, that doesn't add up to anything apart from a bunch of people talking about Windows.

I guess talking about Ted Bundy amounts to murder too huh?

Its comments like yours that ruin forums like this.

How are we meant to make any advancements with something we are not allowed to discuss?

Can't understand the logic myself. Knowledge is power.

Merry Christmas everyone, its not likely I will post again before then so... :P Merry Christmas.

This post has been edited by LeveL: 19 December 2008 - 06:16 PM


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  Posted 23 December 2008 - 05:03 AM

Muiz explained me how to slip hotfixes and drivers etc.

How to use Windows 7 DISM by Muiz

Q : What is DISM?
A : Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM)

Q : Why this guide?
A : Cause there is NO information about this tool out yet.

DISM is the replacement for the older deployment tools from Microsoft, like PKMGR and PEIMG
WAIK doesnt support this yet, so when you want to use WAIK, use it from a Vista or XP, not from a Windows 7
When you work from Windows 7, you dont need to install DISM, cause its already in it.
You can basicly do anything to your image with DISM, even aplly unattended settings to it , so you can use it unattended without XML.
How to get DISM?
Mount your Windows 7 and go to the System32 folder of the ofline image, and copy the "DISM" folder and "DISM.exe" to your Vista System32 folder.
Register the dll's inside(Some cant be registered)

Dll's :

CbsProvider.dll
CompatProvider.dll
DismCore.dll
DismCorePS.dll
DismProv.dll
DmiProvider.dll
IntlProvider.dll
MsiProvider.dll
SmiProvider.dll
UnattendProvider.dll
WimProvider.dll

For x64 users, you also have to grab the "SysWOW64" folder and the "DISM.exe" from there.

What i did was also added "DISM.exe" to my WAIK folder to make it even more easy to use.


Here is a small list with commands and a few examples, what you can do with dism.
You can get the example of each command by putting "/?" without the quotes after the command.
I did a few in this guide, but you can do this for each command.

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DISM.exe [dism_options] {WIM_command} [<WIM_arguments>]
DISM.exe {/Image:<path_to_offline_image> | /Online} [dism_options]
		 {servicing_command} [<servicing_arguments>]

DESCRIPTION:

  DISM enumerates, installs, uninstalls, configures, and updates features
  and packages in Windows images. The commands that are available depend
  on the image being serviced and whether the image is offline or running.

WIM COMMANDS:

  /Get-MountedWimInfo	 - Displays information about mounted WIM images.
  /Get-WimInfo			- Displays information about images in a WIM file.
  /Commit-Wim			 - Saves changes to a mounted WIM image.
  /Unmount-Wim			- Unmounts a mounted WIM image.
  /Mount-Wim			  - Mounts an image from a WIM file.
  /Remount-Wim			- Recovers an orphaned WIM mount directory.
  /Cleanup-Wim			- Deletes resources associated with mounted WIM
							images that are corrupt.

Examples :

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/Mount-Wim /WimFile:<path_to_WIM_file> {/Index:<image_index> | /Name:<image_name
>}
  /MountDir:<target_mount_directory> [/readonly]

  Mounts the WIM file to the specified directory so that it is available for
  servicing. /ReadOnly sets the mounted image with read-only permissions.

	Examples:
	  DISM.exe /Mount-Wim /WimFile:C:\test\images\myimage.wim /index:1
		/MountDir:C:\test\offline

	  DISM.exe /Mount-Wim /WimFile:C:\test\images\myimage.wim /index:1
		/MountDir:C:\test\offline /ReadOnly

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/ScratchDir:<path_to_directory>

  Specifies a temporary directory to be used for extracting files for
  servicing. The directory must exist.

  If not set, the temporary directory will be used.

	Example:
	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /scratchdir:D:\Scratch

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DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /?

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IMAGE SPECIFICATIONS:

  /Online				 - Targets the running operating system.
  /Image				  - Specifies the path to the root directory of an
							offline Windows image.

DISM OPTIONS:

  /WinDir				 - Specifies the path to the Windows directory.
  /SysDriveDir			- Specifies the path to the system-loader file named
							BootMgr.
  /LogPath				- Specifies the logfile path.
  /LogLevel			   - Specifies the output level shown in the log (1-4).
  /NoRestart			  - Suppresses automatic reboots and reboot prompts.
  /Quiet				  - Suppresses all output except for error messages.
  /ScratchDir			 - Specifies the path to a scratch directory.

For more information about these DISM options and their arguments, specify an
option immediately before /?.

  Examples:
	DISM.exe /Mount-Wim /?
	DISM.exe /ScratchDir /?
	DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /?
	DISM.exe /Online /?




WINDOWS EDITION SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Set-ProductKey		 - Populates the product key into the offline image.
  /Get-CurrentEdition	 - Displays the editions of the specified image.
  /Get-StagedEditions	 - Displays a list of Windows editions that can be
							removed from the specified image.
  /Get-TargetEditions	 - Displays a list of Windows editions that an
							image can be upgraded to.
  /Remove-StagedEdition   - Removes a staged edition from the image.
  /Set-Edition			- Upgrades the Windows image to a higher edition.

UNATTEND SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Apply-Unattend		 - Applies an unattend file to an image.

DRIVER SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Remove-Driver		  - Removes driver packages from an offline image.
  /Add-Driver			 - Adds driver packages to an offline image.
  /Get-DriverInfo		 - Displays information about a specific driver
							in an offline image or a running operating system.
  /Get-Drivers			- Displays information about all drivers in
							an offline image or a running operating system.

INTERNATIONAL SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Set-LayeredDriver	  - Sets keyboard layered driver.
  /Set-UILang			 - Sets the default system UI language that is used
							in the mounted offline image.
  /Set-UILangFallback	 - Sets the fallback default language for the system
							UI in the mounted offline image.
  /Set-UserLocale		 - Sets the user locale in the mounted offline image.
  /Set-SysLocale		  - Sets the language for non-Unicode programs (also
							called system locale) and font settings in the
							mounted offline image.
  /Set-InputLocale		- Sets the input locales and keyboard layouts to
							use in the mounted offline image.
  /Set-TimeZone		   - Sets the default time zone in the mounted offline
							image.
  /Set-AllIntl			- Sets all international settings in the mounted
							offline image.
  /Set-SKUIntlDefaults	- Sets all international settings to the default
							values for the specified SKU language in the
							mounted offline image.
  /Gen-LangIni			- Generates a new lang.ini file.
  /Set-SetupUILang		- Defines the default language that will be used
							by setup.
  /Get-Intl			   - Displays information about the international
							settings and languages.

APPLICATION SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Check-AppPatch		 - Displays information if the MSP patches are
							applicable to the mounted image.
  /Get-AppPatchInfo	   - Displays information about installed MSP patches.
  /Get-AppPatches		 - Displays information about all applied MSP patches
							for all installed applications.
  /Get-AppInfo			- Displays information about a specific installed MSI
							application.
  /Get-Apps			   - Displays information about all installed MSI
							applications.

PACKAGE SERVICING COMMANDS:

  /Add-Package			- Adds packages to the image.
  /Remove-Package		 - Removes packages from the image.
  /Enable-Feature		 - Enables a specific feature in the image.
  /Disable-Feature		- Disables a specific feature in the image.
  /Get-Packages		   - Displays information about all packages in
							the image.
  /Get-PackageInfo		- Displays information about a specific package.
  /Get-Features		   - Displays information about all features in
							a package.
  /Get-FeatureInfo		- Displays information about a specific feature.

For more information about these servicing commands and their arguments,
specify a command immediately before /?.

	 Examples:
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		 DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Apply-Unattend /?
		 DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Features /?
		 DISM.exe /Online /Get-Drivers /?

/Apply-Unattend:<path_to_unattend.xml>

  Applies an unattend.xml file to an offline image or a running operating
  system.

	Examples:
	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Apply-Unattend:C:\unattend.xml
	  DISM.exe /Online /Apply-Unattend:C:\unattend.xml\

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/Get-Features [/PackagePath:<path_to_package>] [/PackageName:<name_in_image>]

  Displays information about all features found in a specific package.
  If you do not specify a package name or path, all features in the image will
  be listed. /PackagePath can point to either a .cab file or a folder.

	Examples:
	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Features

	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Features
		/PackagePath:C:\packages\package.cab

	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Features
		/PackageName:Microsoft.Windows.Calc.Demo~6595b6144ccf1df~x86~en~1.0.0.0
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

/Get-Drivers [/all]

  Displays information about drivers in an image. Only shows out-of-box drivers
  by default. Use /all switch to show all drivers in the image.

	Example:
	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Drivers
	  DISM.exe /Image:C:\test\offline /Get-Drivers /all
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This is the beginning of a bigger guide, but it will do for now.

Author : Muiz
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Posted 23 December 2008 - 06:00 AM

View PostLeveL, on Dec 19 2008, 05:13 PM, said:

View Poststudio48, on Dec 15 2008, 01:57 PM, said:

i just hear from msfn worker its piracy to talk about things like this..


How can it be piracy to talk?

No one can tell people what they can or can't talk about, except whats in the MSFN rules, which you people sometimes take too far, why not actually read the rules to check if talking about Windows 7 amounts to piracy? It doesn't. It just says no links to warez or posting info like serial keys, or how to crack something, well if all we are doing is talking about Windows 7, that doesn't add up to anything apart from a bunch of people talking about Windows.

I guess talking about Ted Bundy amounts to murder too huh?

Its comments like yours that ruin forums like this.

How are we meant to make any advancements with something we are not allowed to discuss?

Can't understand the logic myself. Knowledge is power.

Merry Christmas everyone, its not likely I will post again before then so... :P Merry Christmas.


OMG LeveL Shush!!!

He (Studio48) got caught admiting he was using a pirated version. (Yes even if it is Alphs\Beta stage it is PIRACY to dl it or get it "from a friend")
There is absolutly no need to climb upon high and get all self-righteous at all of us. He was just throwing a fit becuase we caught him being naughty and sent him a lump of coal...

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:32 AM

If anyone's interested, after messing around with vlite i noticed windows 7 won't finish installation if you remove the game explorer or SQM (along with crash dump (not verified by me) and manual install).
One of IIS-tree dependencies causes an error message towards the end too, not IIS itself which can be removed, just one of the items that gets unticked if you leave IIS in.
Incidentally System Restore can be safely removed.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 11:35 AM

In the end, what can and what can't be removed from Windows 7 with vlite?
is there a way to "shrink" Windows 7 to 3-4 GB on HDD? Iknow that HDD's are cheap now, but still...

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