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Open SYSTEM PROPERTIES
Than the right TAB which is about PERFORMANCE
Click the button FILESYSTEM
Than goto FLOPPY DISK -Tab
Theres a box you can uncheck to stop Windows from searching the floppy.

Checking or unchecking that seems to have no effect. It has always been checked on this computer and I never got a disk grind (again, the issue is a grind the first time an Explorer window was opened after a reboot), though I have left it unchecked now that I know about it.

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Now im looking @ this entry

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\MS-DOS Emulation\AppCompat

I have about 50 keys under AppCompat (The only program i have on that list is "Start.exe" but it doesnt have compat entries for IT,it only has 3 things you run with it)

I reckon its ok to delete all these also?

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Export AppCompat, delete all the entries, then make sure you can reboot. If you never run into any issues, you have your answer. Regardless, you've got a backup so you're fine either way.

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Here are some reg keys I have deleted, is there anymore obselete keys I need to delete?

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MenuOrder]
[-HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Advanced INF Setup]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\Software\Microsoft\Multimedia\Components\Informational\DRM_DRM]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{760C4B83-E211-11D2-BF3E-00805FBE84A6}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{A9FC132B-096D-460B-B7D5-1DB0FAE0C062}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{9EA69F99-F8FF-415E-8B90-35D6DFAF160E}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\TypeLib\{8AA720BF-7468-4DA1-97DA-66D2E41B3DDA}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Last Update]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Check Drive\LastSurfaceAnalysis]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Check Drive\LastCheck]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\LastCheck]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\LastOptimize]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\checkbadapps]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\CheckBadApps400]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\SessionManager\AppPatches]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\AppID\{4EEDE5C9-2CAD-11D2-9AD4-080009ED1D06}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\TypeLib\{4EEDE5C8-2CAD-11D2-9AD4-080009ED1D06}\1.0\0\win32]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{4EEDE5D8-2CAD-11D2-9AD4-080009ED1D06}\LocalServer32]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\CLSID\{4EEDE5D6-2CAD-11D2-9AD4-080009ED1D06}\LocalServer32]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETBIOS]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RunMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Doc Find Spec MRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\FindComputerMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\PrnPortsMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StreamMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\OCXStreamMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Paint\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Applets\Wordpad\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\RecentURLList]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\RecentFileList]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ComDlg32\LastVisitedMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\ComDlg32\OpenSaveMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wang\Imaging\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Kodak\Imaging\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TypedURLs]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Netscape\Netscape Navigator\URL History]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Cover Page Editor\Recent Files List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Fax Viewer\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Dependency Walker\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\FrontPage\Editor\Insert Hyperlink\Recently Used URLs]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\FrontPage\Editor\Insert Image\Recently Used URLs]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\FrontPage\Explorer\FrontPage Explorer\Recent Page List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Excel\7.0\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MSE\9.0\FileMRUList]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\PhotoDraw\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\RecentDocs]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WebPost\SrcMRU]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Microsoft Image Composer\Recent File List]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DirectShow\Dshow\RecentURLList]
[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\InstallLocationsMRU]

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I found this entry in the reg

MRANENIA

under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\MRANENIA (Its ALL CAPS) -- Its an empty key....


I did a text search and NO FILE HAS THIS REFERENCED IN IT......

I reckon other 98 users have this key also?? (I was gonna delete it but im not sure (I suppose because its empty it has no use??))

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I found this entry in the reg
MRANENIA

I also have it on my win-98 system. Have a look at these:

http://discussions.v...rd-registry-key
http://www.freedomli...opic.php?t=4121

Using the built-in file-find looking for "MRANENIA" it shows up in system.dat and bbdbcade (no idea what that file is, but it's 15 mb). Manually loading IOS.vxd and CDVSD.vxd in wordpad also shows they contain "MRANENIA". Many or most questions about mranenia seem to pertain to win-98/ME and date to 2001-2004. There does not seem to be anything resembling a valid, coherent or authoritative answer to its function or reason for being in the registry.

On my system, that key is a 128-byte binary value, most of which are zero. The first 5 values on my system are 20,03,41,43 and 47 (in hex). The last 83 bytes are zero.

Edited by Nomen, 03 September 2013 - 08:46 AM.


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Thats interesting.....

I did a file search just now again PUTTING IT IN CAPS and it came up in those 2 files you mentioned in your reply.... (Only in those 2 files though (I dont have the file you said is 15MB))

I dunno why nothing came up for this when i first did a text search months ago!! (These files were there then also) -- Quite strange!!

One thing I noticed about windows search is: It doesnt scan all areas!! -- I just checked my TOTAL files and win search says 5132 but when i use REGSEEKER and scan all files it says I have 5142 -- Im not sure what Win search is not scanning..... (Some win directories I imagine)
 

Edited by Dude111, 03 September 2013 - 11:28 AM.


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Strange that noone has published anything "verified" about it.

 

Since it is in CDVSD.vxd, this hypothesis may have some grounds:

http://www.pctools.c...hp/t-20326.html

 

The idea (also found *somewhere*) that it is an acronym connected to Make RANdom ENIA or similar connected to the ENIA Laws or anyways to some form of encryption may also be logical, but then why in CDVSD.vxd.

 

A good idea would be to run regmon and see if and when that key is accessed and by what (possibly only when reading CD's or possibly only with a given type of CD - like data but not music or viceversa). :usnure:

 

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But how could it do ANYTHING?? (There is NOTHING in the key!!)

Very strange how there seems to be NO INFO on this!! (Even here on MSFN biggrin.gif (The BEST site for Win98 discussions smile.gif))

Edited by Dude111, 03 September 2013 - 11:00 PM.


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The MRANENIA Key exists in Windows 98SE and ME when the Windows Installation is not Genuine.
The Code is very obfuscated but I suspect that it might cripple something in the CD Driver or get reported to CD Applications.
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The MRANENIA Key exists in Windows 98SE and ME when the Windows Installation is not Genuine.
The Code is very obfuscated but I suspect that it might cripple something in the CD Driver or get reported to CD Applications.

That can't be right. I have the  MRANENIA key and I used my own genuine product key when I installed it. In my case the MRANENIA key is not empty, it has a hex string. I have another computer with 98SE and it also has the MRANENIA key but the hex string is different, this time a different genuine product key was used. Mine are both OEM keys.

 

Dude111, was your installation OEM, retail or upgrade?



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I have been examining the Code further.
CDVSD does some other checking if the MRANENIA Key is not present.
It is possible that it indicates an OEM Version.

Do you have a value for DigitalProductID in Key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

MRANENIA is created if this Value is not present.
The Retail Install creates DigitalProductID when you enter the CD Key.
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Yes I have a DIGITAL PRODUCT ID key there...... (I just looked and it has a value in it)

But I think we now know what this key is for -- Thank you rloew!!

Edited by Dude111, 03 September 2013 - 11:22 PM.


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I have been examining the Code further.
CDVSD does some other checking if the MRANENIA Key is not present.
It is possible that it indicates an OEM Version.

Do you have a value for DigitalProductID in Key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

MRANENIA is created if this Value is not present.
The Retail Install creates DigitalProductID when you enter the CD Key.

Yes I do have a value for  DigitalProductID in that key.

 

The key   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion

contains redundant information. There is the ProductId, ProductKey, and ProductType.

 

ProductType alone tells you what kind of install you have.

115 = full OEM

120 = OEM restore CD

101 = full retail

102 = retail upgrade

112 = fe to se update from Microsoft

116 = OEM upgrade and OEM fe to se update

111 = MSDN

110 = "select" - license for multiple installs

100 = doesn't ask for a key at all

 

Anyone want to volunteer to delete MRANENIA to see what happens?

I might try it but not right now.



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Do you have a value for DigitalProductID in Key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion
MRANENIA is created if this Value is not present.
The Retail Install creates DigitalProductID when you enter the CD Key.

I have the DigitalProductID value at that location. It is a binary value, A3h bytes in length. Starting at byte 24h I have this string: "730-00847". Plugging that string into google turns up many hits to Windows 98 CD's being sold by various vendors - I am not sure how that number relates to win-98 - Microsoft product ID? Stock Number? Starting at byte 8 I have this string: "07604-oem-0002302-49210" - that also happens to be the string contained in the value "ProductId".

Anyone want to volunteer to delete MRANENIA to see what happens?

I have renamed the key in my registry to "backupMRANENIA" - I expect that is equivalent to deleting it. We'll see what happens.

PS: Under HKEY_Classes_root\CLSID\ I have key (guid?) with a value called "Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool" and under that a value called "AppID" with a value that looks like a guid. If I search for that guid I find a reg sting with a value "LegitCheckControl". I recall having to run a WGA program some time ago in order to download something from MS.

Edit: With the MRANENIA registry key renamed to "backupMRANENIA" and rebooting, the system starts just fine, and I seem to be able to access a data CD from my DVD/RW drive with no problems. Checking the registry, the system did not restore the MRANENIA key after rebooting - and the renamed key remains intact. I'm able to run FF2 and post this edit.

Edited by Nomen, 04 September 2013 - 08:20 AM.


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I would assume since this key IS EMPTY it is doing nothing.. (@ least for those of us who have it where it is totally empty) so changing its name/deleting it shouldnt cause any issues....

Edited by Dude111, 04 September 2013 - 06:33 PM.


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I don't know when CDVSD.VXD accesses the MRANENIA code. It did not when I experimented with Installing it.
It is also associated with another Key. The other KEY is HKLM\Software\Microsoft\XXXX00000 where XXXXX are 4 arbitrary characters.
It appears to have a 4 Byte Value.
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I don't know when CDVSD.VXD accesses the MRANENIA code. It did not when I experimented with Installing it.
It is also associated with another Key. The other KEY is HKLM\Software\Microsoft\XXXX00000 where XXXXX are 4 arbitrary characters.
It appears to have a 4 Byte Value.

In my case, XXXX is I110. Under that key, I have a single binary value, the name of which is "1 ", which is 4 bytes in length, which are (in hex) 80, 00, 80, 80.

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My MRANENIA has a 128 byte HEX string in it, the XXXX0000 is K<500000 with "|" : 08 80 88 88 in it. I have OEM installation from, and Product Type of 115 also reflects it.


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This 2003 thread discusses the "Mr. Enigma" key which apparently is not found on win-9x/me but is found on (Some? Many? Most?) win-XP systems. Someone claims to have found a reference to Mr.Enigma in HIVESFT.INF in the I386 folder of the XP install CD.

http://www.dslreport...try-in-registry

A letter from Microsoft seems to confirm that the MR.Enigma key is involved with the DVD drive somehow.

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The key has to do with the built in DVD licensing scheme of Windows XP. Hope this addresses your concerns. Sincerely ...

(in a follow-up, he continues:)

Regarding the detailed information of this key, what I know is that it's uses are to protect DVD data that is fairly sophomoric at this point. I have searched both in our internal database and on the Internet. I'm afraid that there is no more detailed information so far. However, as far as I know, this issue has been reported to our proper department. It has been bugged and the key does not exist in Windows .Net Server. Should you have any concerns, please feel free to drop me a note.

Vincent Jiang
Microsoft Online Partner Support
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That thread has a few comments about MRANENIA, but nothing useful. The keys Mr.Enigma and MRANENIA should appear one-after-the-other in the registry, but it seems they rarely do. Seems the transition point is between ME and XP. But it is interesting that both seem to have something to do with optical drives.



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I always deleted everything under:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Advanced INF Setup]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Advanced INF Setup]

I have removed everything under the FIRST ONE the other day but isnt the second accessed daily?? ('CURRENT USER' means whatever account is using the computer)

Maybe not I dunno....... I have always thought everytihng under CURRENT USER represented the account using the computer..... (Which are read @ least once (@ bootup))


Would be interesting running REGMON and see if that section is ever accessed.....


EDIT:

Im running regmon @ the moment and have excluded ALL BUT HKCU and will look @ it after a few minutes..

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I just did a little cleaning of REALPLAYER (I have rp8 (Last good version of Realplayer)),got rid of VISUALIZATIONS (Which i dont ever use) and of course it uses LESS MEMORY now when running! (I didnt realise how many PLUGINS realplayer has! (I reckon I only need 1 (THE CODECS))

I remember once I tried to remove the VISUALIZATIONS for WMP but they came back when i started WMP!! (The keys were recreated) Does anyone know how to remove them??

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I have been trying to clean up more things I dont use and such and have noticed The microsoft data access program (ODBC)

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ODBC

I dont have Office,Excel,etc..... And I would love clearing this off..... I assume after dumping these keys and getting rid of the EXE program (odbcad32) and all the files (I have 27 files starting with ODBC) there will be a ton of invalid registry entries.... (Im glad I have REGSEEKER,does an excellent cleaning!!)


EDIT:

I got rid of Software/ODBC and Software/MOS (Microsoft Online Services) and there was only 2 KEYS that came up as invalid..... (The CLSID for ODBC.exe of course and one in LOCAL MACHINE (ODBC - "Obsolete Entry")

Edited by Dude111, 15 September 2013 - 03:33 PM.


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I was doing some cleaning in my reg and I looked @ the "Explorer bars" section again

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Explorer Bars

I had 3 entries there..... The 2nd and 3rd ones are needed.. The first one WAS A TOOLBAR FROM ALEXA THAT I GUESS IE INSTALLS WHEN YOU INSTALL IE!!!

I removed the key and did a search for that key and found 1 entry,deleted it then ran regseeker.... 22 active-x keys were now invalid due to that toolbar being removed.. AND I CANT TELL YOU HOW MUCH FASTER MY FOLDERS OPEN!!! (They opened nicely before)

Why do they put these toolbars on browsers??? Especially ones like IE that every folder on your computer IS USING!!

I thought i removed all ALEXA stuff off here years ago!!




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