[Thauzar]

@evilvoice, I don't have any pre-SP3 updates yet on my cd so I really don't know how the setups work with it, but isn't it supposed to start the original setup.exe anyway after presetup.cmd starts? In that case it should not change anything else except seeing and executing presetup.cmd.. well normally...

[evilvoice]

thats what I thought, but its definitely this new setup.exe...Also, if you read, he talks about certain things being out of place, like runonce executing at t-34 or something like that.

[Pyron]

evilvoice, on Sep 14 2004, 07:25 AM, said:

thats what I thought, but its definitely this new setup.exe...Also, if you read, he talks about certain things being out of place, like runonce executing at t-34 or something like that.

RunOnce is indeed running at T-34 but there is nothing wrong with it. If you refer to RunOnceEx, it still runs at T-13.
Try adding keys to RunOnce through HIVESFT.INF, it should be running at T-34.

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Pyron

[evilvoice]

that was just an example, my problem is when using your setup.exe, svcpack.inf does not work

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

Thauzar, on Sep 14 2004, 12:20 AM, said:

And what is this supposed to do? I know it's optional but maybe it's usefull it it's there

REM +=======================================================+
REM | Prepare later installations (optional)                |
REM |-------------------------------------------------------|
REM SET KEY=HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnceEx
REM REG ADD %KEY%\998 /V 1 /D "%CDDRIVE%\OEM\bin\t-13_install.cmd" /f
REM REG ADD %KEY%\999 /V 1 /D "REG ADD %KEY%\zzz999 /V 1 /D %CDDRIVE%\OEM\bin\postinstall.cmd /f" /f
REM +=======================================================+

This is to add RunOnceEx entries to the registry. You've never heard of RunOnceEx? Then is http://unattended.msfn.org (the guide) the place to be!

Thauzar, on Sep 14 2004, 12:20 AM, said:

Same thing for this one

REM +=======================================================+
REM | Do other stuff like copying useful tools (optional)   |
REM |-------------------------------------------------------|
REM cd %SystemRoot%\system32
REM %CDDRIVE%\OEM\bin\7za.exe x -y -aoa %CDDRIVE%\OEM\data\System32.7z

This is to extract usefull utilities (like pskill, 7za.exe, etc.) directly to the X:\WINfolder\system32 folder. (Does the same as $OEM$\$$\system32, only with (better) extraction!

Thauzar, on Sep 14 2004, 12:20 AM, said:

And a last one, cause I'm curious, why is setup.exe run with %1 %2 %3 %4 ?? are those variables? and where do they find their value then?

Those are the parameters to start the REAL setup.exe! Fore more info, you should PM Pyron I think.

[Thauzar]

@Bashrat Nope, never (well I heard of) used runonce or runonceex, a good old batch file is just fine for me, I like that black screen and dos commands, simple and efficient. And it's not the unattended guide that seems to explain more of it in details... looked a LOT easier with batch files.


This troubles me... if svcpack.inf doesn't work, then how will we add the Pre-SP3 hotfixes?

[Thauzar]

This post may be in the wrong thread but: how can I extract compressed drivers from Dell?

I explain: there is a .exe I extract with winRAR that gives me a folder with some setup files, lots of files, and 2 .cab files (i presume the drivers are hidden here). But running the installer extracts the files (where??? not in temp folder ). I am trying to get to the inf to add to my drivers.7z file for my unattended xp but can't get the processor and mouse ones because of that stupid problem. The .cab file doesn't appear to be normal cab files cause I tried expand, and extract and both commands did not recognise the file, expand simply copying the .cab and extract saying wrong file format... winRAR and 7zip neither can uncompress those .cab files...

Thanks

[Pyron]

Well, if it is InstallShield, it doesn't extract itself neccessarily. The installer probably just reads out the cab-files directly. If this is the case, you can only install the drivers and grab them out of your running system with a software like WinDriversBackup(hard to find, pm me if you need it) or My Drivers.

BTW: can someone confirm the svcpack.inf issue? I didn't use it myself for such a long time that I can hardly remember how it works...

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Pyron

[Thauzar]

@Pyron I'd like to but since there is no updates to add to svcpack.inf yet I can't test it If you know a way I could do a test to help you out PM me and I'll try whatever I can!

[evilvoice]

I will test again, this time without adding the files to my source...and will give any updates...basically, I will be taking an sp2 source, and adding the files to the oem\bin dir and also adding svcpack.inf and my hotfixes, and thats it...maybe something else I am doing is breaking it, but since noone has responded, I figure ill give it another shot.

[evilvoice]

Tested with a CLEAN SP2 CD...No nlite, no tweaks, no slipstreaming...just a base sp2, the files from the first post, and 7za.exe, all set up exactly the way you say...svcpack.inf does not get run correctly...I will say that something pops up during the time svcpack.inf runs (which has got to be svcpack.inf being run as a command script) but nothing installs...Could it be that we dont have enough variables being passed to setup.exe? I dunno, I just know that with this method a person can not use svcpack.inf on the cd.

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

evilvoice, on Sep 18 2004, 06:34 PM, said:

Tested with a CLEAN SP2 CD...No nlite, no tweaks, no slipstreaming...just a base sp2, the files from the first post, and 7za.exe, all set up exactly the way you say...svcpack.inf does not get run correctly...I will say that something pops up during the time svcpack.inf runs (which has got to be svcpack.inf being run as a command script) but nothing installs...Could it be that we dont have enough variables being passed to setup.exe?  I dunno, I just know that with this method a person can not use svcpack.inf on the cd.

This is a disaster :'(
So after all this method isn't working anymore...

STUPID SP2



Any clue, Pyron?

[bitmonster]

For me this works with SP2 and svcpack.inf.
I have .NET-SP1, HighMAT and some other stuff in svcpack.inf and a bunch of compressed drivers also. No problem encoutered. Everything installs fine.

[evilvoice]

either youre doing something beyond whats listed in the instructions, or your svcpack.inf isnt really executing...Ive tested it twice now in vmware and still svcpack.inf never installs anything...

What I have done is this...
DOSNET.INF
[optionaldirs]
hotfixes

TXTSETUP.SIF
SetupORG.exe (and whatever the numbers and commas after it)
Presetup.cmd

OEM\bin
7za
SetDriverPath
WatchDriverSigningPolicy

OEM
DriverPack_Lan.7z

svcpack.inf works if I copy setup.ex_ from the original on top of Pyrons.

Pyrons method does work, I REM the line in presetup.cmd that removes the drivers and it does extract and seems to work perfectly, but svcpack.inf is broken...unless there is something else I need to do...Ill test it again by ONLY copying the original setup.ex_ over pyrons and let people know if it works.

UPDATE: Ok, the only thing I did this time was to overwrite pyrons setup.ex_ with xpsp2 setup.ex_ and svcpack.inf works again. Again, this is all in a vm, but shouldnt it work in that? I know some people say that not everything will work in a vm, but honestly, I havent found something that doesnt work...before, I was having problems with reg tweaks, but that was because I had an error in my reg file.

[bilemke]

@evilvoice

Yeah, shouldnt be any reason why it wouldnt work in a vm... If you reporduced it by just changing the setup.exe there must be something up...

This puts a hamper on my conversion to using pyrons tool.. May do it anyway as there are no hot fixes out yet.. Short of the whole tcpip.sys loopback thing.. But I integrated that already just by cabing tcpip.sys from the hot fix and dumping in i386.

[evilvoice]

these are the hotfixes I install
dotnet1.1sp1
msjvm (cause I like MS's Java machine)
highmat
wmp10
msxml

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

evilvoice, on Sep 19 2004, 03:02 PM, said:

these are the hotfixes I install
dotnet1.1sp1
msjvm (cause I like MS's Java machine)
highmat
wmp10
msxml

Did you repack the Dotnetfx installer? Maybe that's the problem...

[evilvoice]

well, I also started to think that...this repack is done with 7zip, the one that ryanvm posted about...so that could be what it is...I guess I could pull that one hotfix out and see if the others are running, and if they are, then I guess I could throw dotnet and msxml in to runonceex, though I dont want them to run there, but if its the only solution, then so be it.

[Thauzar]

So finally what's the solution? Take setupORG and rename it setup.ex_ in presetup.cmd?

[bitmonster]

evilvoice, on Sep 19 2004, 07:18 AM, said:

well, I also started to think that...this repack is done with 7zip, the one that ryanvm posted about...so that could be what it is...I guess I could pull that one hotfix out and see if the others are running, and if they are, then I guess I could throw dotnet and msxml in to runonceex, though I dont want them to run there, but if its the only solution, then so be it.

I don't think this is the problem. I have the same 7z-sfx (and even some more) in my svcpack.inf and it works.
Did you try to remove everything from svcpack.inf and call a cmd.exe instead, to see if svcpack.inf gets executed (and to check pathes etc.)?

It might be the problem, that the SetupORG.exe doesn't get renamed properly to setup.exe. Did you check the files setup.old and setup.exe after your installation?

I don't use VM, so there might be some incompatibilities.