[Salvo2002]

hey everyone, I have been reading up on a lot of posts on how to make a universial UXPCD. I am to the point where I picked method 2 to install Bâshrat the Sneaky's DriverPacks, and am ready run the RUN_ME.cmd. The only question is, I don't understand where and why Pyron's files are needed.

in Bâshrat the Sneaky's DriverPacks tutorial for newbies it says to follow these 4 main steps exactly, and then your done. The only thing it says about Pryon is

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Method 2

This method is also known as "Pyron's method". The original goal was to make it possible to install drivers from CD. But it's also very handy to use for the DriverPacks installation! With this tool we can extract all driver archives before the GUI part of setup (you know, the part with the time indicator) starts!

All info you need can be found in this topic at MSFN.org.

This method is very spacesaving. Personally I prefer this method.

so it just says "info" is here....but doesn't say anyhting about using his files or anyhting....and then in the last step is says that your all done and ready to test.

I guess I just don't get how to implement Pyron's method.......sorry I know this is probably an easy/stupid question for you guys.

I think am just really confused becasue I keep reading all these posts saying do "this and that", but I don't understand what "this and that" really means.

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

Method 2 IS Pyron's method, so it is completely handled 'under the hood', i.e. you - the end-user - doesn't notice anything of it!

[Salvo2002]

thank you for the clarification!

[gret]

Pyron, on Sep 12 2004, 01:01 PM, said:

Lucius Snow, on Sep 12 2004, 12:30 PM, said:

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4. copy my setup.exe to your I386 directory and overwrite the old one.

You mean your setup.ex_, correct ?

Yes, already corrected.

Lucius Snow, on Sep 12 2004, 12:30 PM, said:

- Extract them where ? Anywhere ?
- Then i run SetDevicePath.exe from inside the folder created by the decompression, right ? But i don't understand what it'll do exactly. Will it update SetDevicePath.exe ? Then i have to put it back in $OEM$\Bin ? Sorry, i'm confused 

You extract your archive into a directory of your choice.
Then you run SetDevicePath.exe <full path to directory of your choice>

Lucius Snow, on Sep 12 2004, 12:30 PM, said:

(snipped regfile)
So that reg must be just added in our existing tweak reg file which applies during runoncex.cmd, that's right ?

Yes.

Lucius Snow, on Sep 12 2004, 12:30 PM, said:

One last question :
How will it decompress 7z archives ? Do i just need to add 7za.exe to $OEM$\$$\system32 ?

Basically, yes. Unless you mean if it extracts your archives automatically, then it's no. You have to do it yourself in presetup.cmd. If you want it to happen automatically, name your archive drivers.7z, place it in \OEM and 7za.exe in \OEM\bin, thats what is already prepared in presetup.cmd. But since you seem to be using the $OEM$ directory structure you better modify presetup.cmd to suit your specific needs.

--
Pyron
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

i had a previous post from earlier asking if i can keep the winnt.sif file... hmm, i guess forget that one... i decided i just want to completely get rid of winnt.sif but i need some files copied over to the system32 folder, like a desktop theme and some oem files. is that possible? how do i edit the presetup.cmd file?
i'm sorry.... i just discovered this one recently so i'm kinda new to this... i've been wanting to make an oem repair cd.

cheers,
-gret

[gret]

Bâshrat the Sneaky, on Feb 28 2005, 12:17 PM, said:

Of course, gret, that's even easier

Just use this code:

@ECHO OFF
set tagfile=\WIN51
for %%i in (c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z) do if exist "%%i:%tagfile%" set CDDRIVE=%%i:

This code scans for a tagfile (which you can change of course) and then appends the var %CDDRIVE% to the drive in which the cd is located. Note that you can continue to use this variable in this batch file only!

The copy/install commands should be added by you, of course
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

so i can use the copy commands in presetup.cmd, right?
wat if i want to copy certain files to the system32 folder and other files, do i need to edit txtsetup.sif or dosnet.inf or anything?

cheers,
-gret

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

Oh you want to do it from the presetup.cmd...

Then add this:

%CDDRIVE%\OEM\bin\7za.exe x -y -aoa %CDDRIVE%\OEM\Your_Archive.7z -o"%SystemRoot%\system32"

And put the files you want to be in the system32 folder in an archive named 'Your_Archive.7z'.

I hope you understand it now!

[gret]

i understand that part, but wat if i don't have my files compressed? and do you guys happen to know where i can get the 7za.exe and those other files?

thanks a bunch, everyone!!
you guys are great.

-gret

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

gret, on Mar 1 2005, 08:00 PM, said:

i understand that part, but wat if i don't have my files compressed? and do you guys happen to know where i can get the 7za.exe and those other files?

thanks a bunch, everyone!!
you guys are great.

-gret
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

-7za.exe is included in the 7-zip program, freeware, available at www.7-zip.org

-If you'd like to use copy commands, that's possible too, of course. You can use Windows' built in copy and xcopy, but I prefer robocopy, available at microsoft.com ( it's included in the resource kit tools: downloadlink, you can get the file out of this archive)

with copy:

xcopy %CDDRIVE%\OEM\system32files\*.* %SystemRoot%\system32 /Y /E

with robocopy:

%CDDRIVE%\OEM\bin\robocopy.exe %CDDRIVE%\OEM\system32files %SystemRoot%\system32 *.* /NS /NC /NFL /NDL /NP /NJH /NJS

I guess where you should put all files is pretty self-explanatory...

[gret]

one last question, then i'm going to test it...

this may have nothing to do with this topic, but is there a way i can change the default desktop theme instead of using the luna theme? i want to completely dissolve winnt.sif and that's the only place where i know i can change my desktop theme.

cheers,
-gret

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

gret, on Mar 2 2005, 12:55 AM, said:

one last question, then i'm going to test it...

this may have nothing to do with this topic, but is there a way i can change the default desktop theme instead of using the luna theme? i want to completely dissolve winnt.sif and that's the only place where i know i can change my desktop theme.

cheers,
-gret
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes you can...

in your winnt.sif:

[Shell]
CustomDefaultThemeFile = "%WinDir%\Resources\Themes\MyTheme.theme"

Please do some research next time

More info can be found in the offical guide!

EDIT: but don't forget to use a hacked uxtheme.dll!

Please don't ask any further in this thread, but search the forums instead. If you still can't find things you need to know, please post a new topic in the appropriate forum!

This post has been edited by Bâshrat the Sneaky: 02 March 2005 - 07:47 AM

[gret]

Bâshrat the Sneaky, on Mar 2 2005, 05:46 AM, said:

Yes you can...

in your winnt.sif:

[Shell]
CustomDefaultThemeFile = "%WinDir%\Resources\Themes\MyTheme.theme"

Please do some research next time

More info can be found in the offical guide!

EDIT: but don't forget to use a hacked uxtheme.dll!

Please don't ask any further in this thread, but search the forums instead. If you still can't find things you need to know, please post a new topic in the appropriate forum!
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

yea, i know... but i want to get rid of the winnt.sif
actually, i did get rid of the winnt.sif... but it gives me the default desktop theme after it reboots....
thanks...
um, doesn't the uxtheme.dll change the gui-setup background? (if i'm not mistaken)

EDIT: sorry... disregard this question... i'll search further in the forums...

[Toolman]

Can this methode also be used to skip pressing F6 to load additional drivers ???

Because the massstorage driver pack does not work, I always get an error after the first boot ... whatever methode I use ...

[xn85turbo]

Finally something that works for a NTupgrade=yes in the winnt.sif for adding third party drivers during the win xp install process. But here is my delima, I need to use these tools for a network install not cd.

Basically I want to upgrade from a remote share or copy the install directories to the local hard drive and run it from there. I am going to upgrade 700+ computers.

Any ideas?

[xn85turbo]

When i try to run the upgade from a local hard drive it fails on the copy section;

setuporg.exe = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0
presetup.cmd = 1,,,,,,,2,0,0

So I guess I can either try to manually copy these files with the logon script to the %systemroot%\system32

to see if that brings resolution.

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

Toolman, on Mar 20 2005, 12:32 PM, said:

Can this methode also be used to skip pressing F6 to load additional drivers ???

Because the massstorage driver pack does not work, I always get an error after the first boot ... whatever methode I use ... 
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Yes, it can


That problem only exists with some controllers... But I'm working on it!

[PoNi]

Sorry was just trying to get help and I didn't pm you ?

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

This is the WRONG topic!

And yes, the OEM folder is correct...

P.S.: do NOT post and PM me the exact same thing!

[crazyboot]

Hi

First at all, a big hello from France to all you guys from this reference-forum ;o)

My english is from school, so forgive it if the mistakes are shocking, please

I went throught this topic from the official guide

I then read all this topic and some Bâshrat's instructions. Sometimes, I m not sure I understood everything...

So here I go with some questions, if you don't mind :

"Bâshrat's KB" said:

Q: What about this 'OEM' folder? Why isn't it '$OEM$'? Are they the same?

A: No, they aren't the same! You MUST have the OEM folder, and another important thing: it must be at the root of your UWXPCD (so it must be next to the I386 folder and - if you have this one - next to the $OEM$ folder.
The OEM folder contains file necessary to make this method work. Don't start messing with it!

Well, in the official guide they've put :

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» Making Changes to presetup.cmd
Open presetup.cmd in Notepad
Scroll down to the lines containing SetDevicePath.exe and correct the path. Change \Drivers to where you saved the files on in your source and the parameter ( %CDROM%\Drivers ) to where you saved all your driver files. Also correct the path in the line directly below it as well.

» Summarizing
You have just completed allowing your Windows setup to install the drivers from CD. SetDevicePath.exe will scan the recursively all the directories in the path you specify (see the presetup.cmd file for example), so even subfolders are also scanned. Any INF's found are added to the Device Path that Windows checks when it find new hardware. In this fashion, just drop any future drivers into your driver folder, and Windows will automatically use them if neccesary during setup.

So, the question is :

I have made a multi-boot DVD with the choice of install methodes, and among them, windows XP PRO SP2 integrated whose system path is \SETUP\WINXPPRO\I386.
At the same level than I386, I've put INSTALL\DRIVERS\001_...
and two tools (SetDevicePath.exe and WatchDriverSigningPolicy.exe) in INSTALL\DRIVERS, like suggested in the official guide (if I understood everything...).
I downloaded the tools on the official guide and am trying to put drivers for 10 differents PCs, so that the same unattended DVD can be used for all of them.

I put these lines in Presetup.cmd :

%CDDRIVE%\SETUP\WINXPPRO\install\Drivers\SetDevicePath.exe %CDDRIVE%\SETUP\WINXPPRO\install\Drivers
start %CDDRIVE%\SETUP\WINXPPRO\install\Drivers\WatchDriverSigningPolicy.exe

Is all this correct ? Should it work ?

I also used setup debug and tried the ISO on VMWARE. The cmd windows was showed during the install and no error on the screen. I also put the SVGA II driver for VMWARE on the drivers path. At the end, I made a look in the device manager and see that the SVGA II wasn't installed. I installed it then (from the same ISO but manually, so it was accepted with no problem). Is that meaning that the scan of Pyron's method didn't work ?

Thank you very much for your help and cheers
;o))

[Bâshrat the Sneaky]

That will of course work.

The problem was that soooo many newbies (back then & now) asked if this 'OEM' folder is correct. My FAQ currently only affects if you follow Pyron's instructions to the letter.

I'll change it immediately.

EDIT: updated the article.

This post has been edited by Bâshrat the Sneaky: 28 April 2005 - 01:20 PM

[crazyboot]

thank you very much for your fast reply, Bâshrat !!!

EDIT :
in the meanwhile, i've noticed this :

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An important note:you can NOT verify that the drivers you added are working in VMware or VirtualPC! You HAVE to test it on a real pc to ensure it's working properly!

So, is it also true for SVGA II - specific VMWARE driver for XP ?
If yes, I will burn a DVD and try it on my PC ;o))