[ricktendo64]

I downloaded chm files and updated the cabs with them, I also removed all the non english languages and edited the MSI installers to remove any langs from the installer too using installshield (also removed windows installer, dx redist and other misc stuff too)

I got a pretty small Nero 9 install now thanks x-Shadow-x

As for unattendedly making a WinRAR sfx I have never done it so anybody else know how to make a WinRAR sfx unattededly plz show us

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 22 November 2008 - 09:16 PM

[CoffeeFiend]

ricktendo64, on Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

I downloaded chm files and updated the cabs with them

What chm files? For what? Just curious...

ricktendo64, on Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

I also removed all the non english languages and edited the MSI installers to remove any langs from the installer too using installshield

That could be scripted. Deleting files is trivial. Modifying a MSI installer is fairly simple too (using the OpenDatabase and OpenView methods of the WindowsInstaller.Installer object and simple SQL-like commands) Looks like just removing the files works though (saves 300-some MBs).

ricktendo64, on Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

(also removed windows installer, dx redist and other misc stuff too)

I figured that was probably fairly easy to strip too (haven't actually looked yet though)

ricktendo64, on Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

As for unattendedly making a WinRAR sfx I have never done it so anybody else know how to make a WinRAR sfx unattededly plz show us

The help file (winrar.chm) has the infos about all the switches. The commands are stored as comments (added using command c, and loaded from a file using the -z switch, as the help file suggests)

Edit: BTW, you don't need a large and fancy thinstalled unpacker just for a standard 7zip sfx. Just "7z.exe x Nero-9.x.x.x.exe -oc:\some\path\" will do... That's trivial to script too.

This post has been edited by crahak: 22 November 2008 - 11:25 PM

[ricktendo64]

crahak, on Nov 22 2008, 10:30 PM, said:

ricktendo64, on Nov 22 2008, 10:14 PM, said:

I downloaded chm files and updated the cabs with them

What chm files? For what? Just curious...

[CoffeeFiend]

1.8GB extracted (out of which like 165MB are used by unit_hlp_XX folders), and the help files are still optional? I'm speechless.

Edit: downloading them? trivial to do, using apps like wget...

This post has been edited by crahak: 22 November 2008 - 11:33 PM

[ricktendo64]

This could probably be done by the program too, it could dl, rename and cab archive the help files updating the original cab files with the dummy chm files

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 22 November 2008 - 10:43 PM

[x-Shadow-x]

Update NAR 1.1
Just made up a quick language remover. I will implement NAR-LR with the NAR tomorrow sometime.
Tweaked NAR a bit, Added more stuff to remove.

This post has been edited by x-Shadow-x: 23 November 2008 - 01:36 AM

[cybpsych]

x-Shadow-x, on Nov 22 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

Now that it is saved, you can run ether "Large Build.bat" or "Small Build.bat". "Large Build.bat" will take less time to make, but the SFX in the end will be larger then if you use "Small Build.bat". It will take a while to compress (depending on how many applications you removed and if you used Large Build or Small Build). Once it has compressed, it is ready.

Hi bro, good work on this. it makes every1 easier to slim down the bloated installer

I'm curious on the Small Build and Large Build batch files. Both uses the same 7zip compression level, therefore it shouldn't make any huge difference in size. The only command that is taking extreme long time is UPX, and that only compresses the SFX stub, not the actual compressed file. Just my 2c

ricktendo64, on Nov 23 2008, 11:14 AM, said:

I downloaded chm files and updated the cabs with them, I also removed all the non english languages and edited the MSI installers to remove any langs from the installer too using installshield (also removed windows installer, dx redist and other misc stuff too)

I got a pretty small Nero 9 install now thanks x-Shadow-x

hi rick, care to share your method in removing those extra stuffs (e.g editing MSI installers, windows installers, dx redist, etc.)??

BTW, how small is your Nero 9 installer now?


Thanks guys!

This post has been edited by cybpsych: 23 November 2008 - 04:35 AM

[cybpsych]

btw, what does NAR stands for?

Nero Application Remover?

[x-Shadow-x]

Hi cybpsych, NAR 1.1 removes all of the un needed stuff (e.g dx redist, windows installer 3.1, vcredist and ASK toolbar, ect.).
I have gotten my installer to around 63MB's.
NAR stands for Nero Application Remover.

This post has been edited by x-Shadow-x: 23 November 2008 - 01:09 PM

[boooggy]

can u mix nar with nar language ?

[aranmalo]

as is used the NAR Language Remover? because d'nont delete the languages.

[ajua]

This isn't working for me I've made three different packages. One with only Nero and Nero Express, other with those and CoverDesigner and another with all the latter plus Recode.

The SFX extract the files, setupX launches, works for a while in the background but nothing gets intalled.

I even created the SFX manually, witht the same result.

[ricktendo64]

Try not making a 7zip sfx and see if it works by running SetupX.exe with the switches while extracted, if it works that means that 7zip did not wait for SetupX to complete install and prematurely deleted the temp extracted files

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 23 November 2008 - 10:47 PM

[x-Shadow-x]

Yes, what rick says sounds true. It works fine for me.
boooggy, I will implement NAR-LR into NAR sometime this week, I need to find time.

There are acouple problems with NAR-LR, im trying to fix them. Will post update soon.

This post has been edited by x-Shadow-x: 24 November 2008 - 12:08 AM

[boooggy]

thx for the answer shadow.
good work

[mtbbac]

nero 9 hijack all file association.....

[ricktendo64]

mtbbac, on Nov 24 2008, 05:58 AM, said:

nero 9 hijack all file association.....

I suspected Nero did this but not sure, something hijacked my jpg, bmp and png extensions (i removed Nero PhotoCrap BTW)

Was not sure it was Nero 9 but it could be

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 24 November 2008 - 11:32 AM

[x-Shadow-x]

Hum, I will have to see that, Will test on v-computer later.

[ajua]

ricktendo64, on Nov 23 2008, 10:45 PM, said:

Try not making a 7zip sfx and see if it works by running SetupX.exe with the switches while extracted, if it works that means that 7zip did not wait for SetupX to complete install and prematurely deleted the temp extracted files

It was 7-Zip SFX module fault. I repackaged my install using WinRAR and it installed without problems.

[ricktendo64]

OK I been thinking and this could probably be solved with one or a combination of both these config.txt's:

Will extract files to "%temp%\nero9tmp" and may prevent files from beeing deleted prematurely (will not solve the issue of 7zip sfx module waiting for SetupX to finish)

;!@Install@!UTF-8!
GUIMode="2"
InstallPath="\"%temp%\\nero9tmp\""
RunProgram="Setupx.exe /i /q SERIALNUMBER=\"serial\" EULAACCEPTED=\"1\" INSTAPP=\"ALL\""
;!@InstallEnd@!

Or use cmd.exe to do START /WAIT

;!@Install@!UTF-8!
GUIMode="2"
RunProgram="hidcon:cmd /c start /wait /b \"%%T\\Setupx.exe\" /i /q SERIALNUMBER=\"serial\" EULAACCEPTED=\"1\" INSTAPP=\"ALL\""
;!@InstallEnd@!

%%T = full extraction path (7zSD_EN.chm)

This post has been edited by ricktendo64: 24 November 2008 - 06:44 PM