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What Firewall do you use in Win9x?

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I am strictly a "modern" Windows 98SE person
Me also,i love 98se :)

Your link works again..

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I am wondering why this discussion was moved out of the Windows 98SE forum ... If it had never started there I probably would have never seen it at all. It was mostly dealing with the Windows 98SE OS .... a good chance other 98SE people would or will miss it completely in the future ... myself, I pretty much stay with the 9x and 98SE postings. I feel it was the wrong decision for this discussion to be moved. ... no one (98SE people) was complaining about it being in the wrong area.

* thanks Dude111 for the info on the ZA link working again .... maybe they were doing some maintenance over the holiday.

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There is no way to even guess what the odds would be. It's estimated that between 66% and 91% of all PCs are infected with something. There are thousands of trojans. Many will use whatever port the sender chooses. Here's a list of some of them.

Quite a few apps need to listen on certain ports. These include:

P2P apps, can use any port the user chooses.

Some games. I not a gamer so don't ask which ones.

Some IM programs. When I last used Yahoo, it listened on port 5051.

Call Wave internet answering machine.

VOIP software

Remote access software.

The overwhelming majority of people with nat-routers never configure them to allow unsolicited inbound connections anyways because they never have any reason to do so.

If that router is also connected to an XP unit, UPnP will do most of that for them. The average user is not aware of any of it.

It's clear that we're not going to agree on this. You have no use for outbound control while I consider it necessary. If that makes me a control freak, fine.

Rick

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Sygate Personal Firewall Pro version 5.5 build 2525 worked well for me when I was running Windows 98SE.

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I use Zone Alarm. IIRC the last version which works with Windows 98 is 6.1.744.001. (I use the most recent on my XP installations.)

I use 98Lite to remove IE and WMP, and I ran 98SE up until around the middle of 2006 with no firewall or anti-virus software. Around that time I got some spyware, and I added ZoneAlarm. Still don't use any anti-virus software, althought I check the system occasionally , probably once a month or so, with Spybot S&D.

I don't know if Zonealarms stealth feature helps prevent viruses, but I am quite sure that the amount of spam decreased over several months after I added ZoneAlarm. My sisters computer, which is an almost identical system, but has a different e-mail adddress on the same mail system, was the control, as we did not put ZoneAlarm on her machine until I had used it for a couple months. My theory is that with stealth, any attempt to check to see if a port is open is negative, just as if no computer was connected.

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My theory is that with stealth, any attempt to check to see if a port is open is negative, just as if no computer was

For the common port scan, that's true. Those ports will respond to other types of scans, so stealth is not total by any means. Stealth may stop a script kiddie with a port scanner from finding you but an experienced cracker with NMAP won't be fooled. Stealth might help reduce the amount of amateur probing your systems gets but I don't see where it gives any real increase in protection. That said, it doesn't hurt anything either, unless you run a server or your ISP insists on being able to ping you. IMO, it's more important for the ports to be closed, even if the firewall is off, than it is for them to be silent. It's also more important that any ports on your system that need to accept incoming traffic for a specific app be limited to only accepting traffic from the IPs that app uses, not from all over.

Rick

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Netveda SafetyNet is not a bad app at all. Its works fine on Win98SE machine. Also its low on resources.

Would this firewall be a better replacement for Kerio 2.1.5.

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Agree with the "need"... whatever your "need" is. Router usually does the trick.

But (FWIW) here is Agnitum Outpost Firewall Free...

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Agree with the "need"... whatever your "need" is. Router usually does the trick.

But (FWIW) here is Agnitum Outpost Firewall Free...

Does Outpost 1.0 have IPv6 support?

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Thanks for the link to this firewall. I really like it, and considering replacing Kerio 2.1.5.

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I've been using the "Media Disconnected" firewall for a few years now...

;)

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Thanks for the link to this firewall. I really like it, and considering replacing Kerio 2.1.5.
Well, don't thank me, thank soporific (ref. AutoPatcher 98SE). It is pretty basic and kind of mirrors a router (and then some). I kind of like it too (use it on my 98SE in dual-boot environment). Have to play with it, though... not for the "noobie" since you have to know how to set it up...
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[Well, don't thank me, thank soporific (ref. AutoPatcher 98SE). It is pretty basic and kind of mirrors a router (and then some). I kind of like it too (use it on my 98SE in dual-boot environment). Have to play with it, though... not for the "noobie" since you have to know how to set it up...

Do you use any of the plug-ins?

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@ submix8c or anybody thats uses outpost free firewall v1

Can you shed a little light my way.

Haven't tried any of this additional functionality.

Look Here for BlockPost Plugin info and Here for the Outpost Guide. I think this may be what you want.

In particular Here (basic test of plugin appears to block the IP/HostName in an Untrusted Zone only, not the Port). Try that and see if it fulfills your need

HTH

edit: and FWIW look here. Appears to be a 6.5/6.51 Free version...

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Haven't tried any of this additional functionality.

Look Here for BlockPost Plugin info and Here for the Outpost Guide. I think this may be what you want.

In particular Here (basic test of plugin appears to block the IP/HostName in an Untrusted Zone only, not the Port). Try that and see if it fulfills your need

HTH

edit: and FWIW look here. Appears to be a 6.5/6.51 Free version...

Thanks, but I think I will stick with v1, its liter on resources and it robust IMO.

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@ herbalist

I notice you use Kerio 2.1.5. When you install it, do you use the advance ruleset from http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8023708.

If so, are there any obsolete rules that needs to be deleted? I know it was created back in 2003 so maybe some things may not apply as back then.

I have created a ruleset based of Kerio 2.1.5 for Outpost free v1. All I need to do know is fine-tune it and pray I will be secure. Thanks

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