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#1 User is offline   rjisinspired 

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 08:54 PM

http://rjschat.dyndn...t/compnoise.mp3

It happens suddenly then gradually stops and goes back to normal. The clicking will last a couple of minutes. Today I had used canned air on the CPU fan and power supply thinking it might had been dirt. Nothing is hitting the fans or is up against anything.

Right now my computer is quiet once again. If anyone has any idea what this sound is coming from, it would be great. Hopefully it isn't too bad of a problem.


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Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:21 PM

well it would def. be somekind of moving part. when you think about moving parts the first thing that comes to mind is the fan's in which you said you blew out... but only other things it could be is the hard drive / cd-rom but the noise sounds to me not consistent enough for hard drive or cd-rom (being if it was the cd-rom you would know when you put in a cd). my bet is a cable is laying on the cpu fan when the case is closed or either case fan or ps fan


i would leave the side of the case off... and when the noise started again look inside and see what you can see and listen to where its comming from within your computer

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 01:38 PM

First thing that came to mind for me was the hard drive heads, but this is normally heard as the "Click-O-Death" and your machine won't boot cause the drive is dead. Could still be a fan issue, when the noise occurs try stopping each of the fans to see if that stops the noise. If that doesn't do it the only other moving parts in a normal system are drives.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 06:52 PM

Thanks guys. What would you recommend to temporarily slow or stop a fan down? Don't want to use anything to hard.

Good thing is it doesn't appear to be coming from the hard drive. Then again my case is so small that it is difficult to figure out where the noise is coming from, point of origin. I'll have to deassemble the system. Fortunately the case slides out into pieces from both sides, top even the mobo tray.

Little video I did last night. Shows my computer and goes over the rumble and click sound again. It's a bit comical since I am a bit peeved with an adaware scan taking forever so I had to bleep a few parts. The focus gets better after around two minutes.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=TKoMqaFO1rU

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 07:05 PM

My guess is one of the fan bearing are going out or a wire is laying up against the fan when you close the tower up.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 07:12 PM

If you can take a screwdriver and use as a stethoscope place tip on hard drive, fan casing or any other moving parts until you hear the noise the loudest. I have in the past had some fan troubles making strange noises, and I found that CAREFULLY pressing on the center hub on a flat surface the hub would pop in a bit and the noise was gone.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 08:02 PM

Does the noise happen when the cover is off? Could be a wire on a fan.

Which area is the noise coming from? Get your head close to the computer and inspect.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 10:23 PM

View Postrjisinspired, on Dec 3 2008, 07:52 PM, said:

Thanks guys. What would you recommend to temporarily slow or stop a fan down? Don't want to use anything to hard.


Finger works for those fans you cn get your finger to. Just press on the center hub, careful though some systems will shut down as a safety measure if they sense the fan(s) have stopped so don't have apps opened.

For PSU fans I've used toothpicks, something NON conductive.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 10:30 PM

ZZAAAAAAAP --> pfwoom! No more pc. Always remember to ground your self to prevent statc shocks too.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 10:31 PM

Uhmmm yep. It is the PS. Also, there are a few capacitors that had partially melted. Not a pretty site actually. The I blocked the fans until I got to the PS and yep, that was it.

Before I can get a PS replacement I have to find out from the maker if a few of the connection are hardwired or not, I think a few may be. If so I will need to buy not only a new PS but also a new case, again.

Thanks for the suggestions and the help. Might be waiting as long as a few weeks though. $60.00 dollars for shipping it faster is out of the question.

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Posted 03 December 2008 - 10:44 PM

Yeouch thats expensive.

Isn't it under warrenty? (Wait you mighta voided that opening up the psu)

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 10:43 AM

Yep - warranty is voided upon opening up the PS.

The inside looks really grungy. Dirt looks like it is caked in places. I used canned air from time to time. No way am I going to attempt to deassemble the PS further, lol

According to ultra's support help, the PS can be removed by itself but there is a metal plate in the back-front of the case but it doesn't come out after unscrewing the four screws. There is a red and black wire being fed upward to - I have no idea where to. I don't want to snip wires just to disconnect the PS.

I can take a photo of the location if this may help anything.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 10:45 AM

This is the power supply for the type of computer I have:

http://ultraproducts.com/product_details.p...p;productID=370

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 10:55 AM

That's a standard ATX power supply, the power supply should slide forward in case once the screws are removed. There may also be a clip holding it in place, I'm not familiar with that particular case. And the video doesn't help too much, too blurry. if you follow the wires to the from they are likely going to a fan and should have a connector on them somewhere you can disconnect.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 12:51 PM

View Postrjisinspired, on Dec 4 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

This is the power supply for the type of computer I have:
I hope you go for something better this time, something that doesnīt have bad capacitors and a fan that lives a bit longer.

The name Ultra says it all, itīs "ultra" cheap and there for "ultra" dangerous to use (if you like “ultra” dangerous I would go for it, makes life less boring), you should be glad that the PSU didnīt take out your motherboard and other devices ;).

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 02:40 PM

Ultra tech does't seem to understand what I'm talking about. He says the supply is removable but the two wires are hardwired into the supply by a white molex, as shown in the pic below, first attachment.

The second attached pic shows the two wires being fed upward into a spot I can't get into. I unscrewed the metal plate but it doesn't remove.

I think this PS is hardwired. I don't see how to remove it without snipping the two wires which I think might go to the temp display window in the front of the case. There is another black wire that go toward the measurement of the CPU probe.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:28 PM

Usually when they hook something up like that it is an adapter if you follow the four wires (red, black x2 and yellow out of that molex it goes straight into the PSU?

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:39 PM

The red and the black connect to the front LCD display panel:

Hopefully whatever supply I get will come with an LCD panel for temperature readout.

According to ultras tech support, the other end of those red and black wires come out, unplugged from the molex but from the other picture I showed they look soldered so there is nothing to unplug there.

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 03:45 PM

Go back to the molex connector and follow the 4 fatter wires out, do they go directly into the PSU without a connector in between?

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Posted 04 December 2008 - 04:05 PM

Hmmm. a twisty was tied around those wires and another bundle. After untying it the power supply has now been removed successfully. There were a few molex connectors at the other end of those wire, yes.

Now I'm having trouble locating something so I can screw back in the front usb and other ports. rrrrrrrrr. If I can't find this then I'll have to get another case.

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