[0d14r3]

@ strel
I use RunOnceEX to install the full package with langpacks brazilian.
I try again and back to report.

Thanks.

0d

[jweetje]

Great piece of work !!!
I wonder what to do with the ini-file.
It keeps asking me to choose which version of 2.0 I want.
Do I need to add NO instead of Yes to the original one or the one that comes with 3.5?
And if so do I need to do the same a bit lower for the language files?

I would like a separate file for 1.1+2.0 and for the rest (3.5).
I set MERGE to 12. Which of the 2.0 do I have to say YES to then.

What is the difference between loud and silent installation?

BTW: I am green as grass here, a total newbee

Attempt 1:
I choose NO for the 2.0 both with file as with the lang pack.
MERGE=12.
It worked and finished, but it says the 7z file in OUT is not a 7-zip file. It is only 91,5 kB!.

Attempt 2:Now I choose below settings. Also for the language. MERGE still at 12. Same result. A 91,5 kB .exe file. That of course does not work. PLEASE HELP!
PROCESS_DNF1=YES
PROCESS_DNF2=YES
PROCESS_DNF35_DNF2=NO
PROCESS_DNF35_DNF3=YES
PROCESS_DNF35_DNF35=YES

Attempt 3:
Everything at YES, only the file NetFx20SP1_x86nl.exe deleted form the work folder. Same result as attempt 1.

Attempt 4:
I will set the COMPRESSION RATIO at LOW. Until now it was MED.
Now I can see Temp.7z growing. I must say I had no look at in during the first 3 attempts.
AND IT WORKS !!!.
Now I have a 41,5Mb .exe file. that works.

Set the compression rate at LOW !!

Still 1 open question: it is not possible to have also a package for the rest? That is everything but 1.1+2.0SP2.
Or since 1.1 is the one that rewuires a reboot, is it possible to have 2.0 and all up to 3.5SP1 in 1 package and 1.1. in another?
That way 2.0+3.5 can be installed during an unattended set up of Windows.

Now I am going to test the FULL package.
Which works fine.

And to my own question: just play around with 12 FULL and YES and NO and you can combine what you want.
Question closed.

This post has been edited by jweetje: 30 December 2008 - 12:55 PM

[strel]

You see the script supports the processing of different packets with different versions of 2.0 built-in. The script is set for you to chose only one packet source to process 2.0. What source? the one you need based on the version of 2.0 you want, for example, if you want the more updated version of 2.0 for win2K3, then you need .NET 3.5 SP1 redistributable packet with 2.0 SP2 built-in and set the PROCESS_DNF35_DNF2=yes in the .ini file, but if at the same time NetFx20SP1_x86.exe is present in the work folder and PROCESS_DNF2=YES in the .ini file, you'll get an error.

To disable a setting in the .ini file you can empty the value or add whatever you want, it only recognize "yes", case insensitive, as working value, read notes inside .ini file.

About languages, to process the language for some framework version, you have to process it from the langpack related to the packet from which this framework version proceeds, even though the language for this version is contained too in another langpack. In the .ini file, settings to process languages only works if the correponding langpack is present in the work folder (obviously), and the framework related is being processed. So no crossed source packets of languages and frameworks are allowed to be processed, unlike Tomcat' original script, as notes inside .ini file states. Again, read it.

Differences among flavours are obvious, as described in the guide. The silent installers are absolutely silent, if you use this silent installers over and installed windows, you'll need to open Task Manager to monitor the unzipping and installing processes or you may not notice it; while loud installers shows progress bar boxes for unzipping and installing processes.

You have to match packets present in the work folder, with the setting that triggers the processing of a framework built-in it, to feed the process with a specified framework, see notes inside .ini file.

You can merge 1.1 with the 2.0 SP# you want, the process is a lot flexible. You can even use MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=fuLL to do this, not feeding the process with 3.0 and 3.5 versions. If you want 1.1 and 2.0 merged, and 3.0 and 3.5 in single installers or merged apart, you have to run the process, at least, 2 times. If you didn't feed the process with 2.0 but only with 1.1 and its langpack and set MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=12 you should get DNF11xx.EXE. If you want to merge 3.0 and 3.5, set MERGE_FRAMEWORKS=fUll and feed the process only with 3.0 and 3.5, do it disabling PROCESS_DNF35_DNF2 as dotnetfx35.exe (containing 2.0 SP#) needs to be processed. You can merge all frameworks in one installer.

You can use all resultant installers during unattended setup or over an installed windows.

This post has been edited by strel: 31 December 2008 - 08:36 AM

[Belak51]

One of the most useful scripts I've ever found.
Apart from custom editing the 7zip SFX program.
And, I like how you changed the program to say when it's processing different sections of the .NET 3.5 SP1 Installer.
Works like a charm.

One thing in the topic though, to someone who was just trying this, they might be confuzzled by the fact that you linked to the .NET 3.5 and the SP1 separately and download them both. That would be a huge waste of bandwidth. Just figured I'd point that out... that along with the .NET 2 Installer. I think you should remove it because they're all included in the 3.5 SP1. You might want to put something explaining that too...

Oh, I second that this topic should be pinned.

EDIT:
One problem, and extremely minor.
A file was created and not deleted: FILEVER.VBS
In the root.

This post has been edited by Belak51: 31 December 2008 - 10:16 AM

[jweetje]

Strel, THANKS.
Thorough and supportive.
I have used it and it works great. Saves a lot of space.
Next attempt: get all that 64 bit stuff out of the files. Saves a lot of Mb's.

Enjoy this evening and a Happy 2009 to you.

[0d14r3]

@strel
My excuses!!!
Your package dont have problems. My problem are random access to Internet from Vmware using dial-up connection.
Thanks for all.

0d

[fenyo]

Hi.

It seems to me, that .NET 3.0 SP2 Language Pack integration is corrupted.
Microsoft Update Website does not see it installed.

However i see it installed in "add or remove programs",
but the install size is only 3 Mbytes.
Now i tried a fresh install in VMware, with original .NETs,
and 3.0 SP2 Language pack's size is 10 MBytes in "add or remove programs"!

So i think the script is missing something.

(i used hungarian language pack)

This post has been edited by fenyo: 03 January 2009 - 05:30 AM

[Jediron]

This script looks great, aldo i am not sure i understand it completely.

I dl'ed the 7zip stuff, and also all 3.5 net framework files (including language and hotfix).
Changed nothing in the (loud) script to and run it. Now i have three files in the OUT1 folder:
DNF20SP2nl.exe
DNF30SP2nl.exe
DNF35SP1nl.exe

Do you need all three of them for a fully working Net framework envirement ?

[strel]

2 Belak51
I'll review all this in the next update, soon. About 2.0, I suppose you're meaning removing 2.0 SP1 packet, I can't, it's needed for win2K. 3.5 redistributable and 3.5 langpack (not SP1) are better candidates for removing.
Thx.

2 jweetje
64 bit stuff is removed from the installers.
Thx 2 U, happy 2009.

2 0d14r3
I supposed it.
Thx 2 U.

2 fenyo
I got the same results. But, what do you exactly mean when you say Microsoft Update don't recognize it, does it offer to you 3.5 SP1 langpack for downloading? This is not my case.
I don't know why this happens. All I can say is I don't see errors installing, and checking the building process, it ends up without errors, apparently. I'll keep searching.
Thx.

2 Jediron
Depends on the software you run. .NET is only for software that is made for using this frameworks ("managed code" in MS jargon). Not all software use .NET and not all software that use .NET, use the same #.# version. Maybe the software you use, needs only 2.0, but for ongoing updates of that software, the developer may update the code to a later .NET version. For example, paint .NET have changed its framework needs from 2.0 to 3.5 in recent versions. Up to you.
Thx.

This post has been edited by strel: 07 January 2009 - 08:25 AM

[strel]

fenyo, I found differences in installers including 3.0 SP2 magyar language, with installers in other languages (specifically with spanish and danish with which I compared). When processing magyar language these 4 files doesn't exist in the installers:

DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WCF\MUI\040E\ServiceModel.mfl
DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WCF\MUI\040E\ServiceModel.mfl.uninstall

this files exist in other languages, in its correponding folders (...\040E\... , the name of this folder depends on language used); and

DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsData000a.dll
DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsLexicons000a.dll

exceding 9 MB each one.

This post has been edited by strel: 04 January 2009 - 07:51 AM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 06:11 PM, said:

2 fenyo
I got the same results. But, what do you exactly mean when you say Microsoft Update don't recognize it, does it offer to you 3.5 SP1 langpack for downloading?

No! It offers me to download 3.0 SP2 Language Pack.
3.5, 2.0, 1.1 are all OK.
I've just noticed, that MU site offers it again with "original" 3.0 SP2 Language Pack installed. [link]
So i think it's a Microsoft Update bug. (it wouldn't be the first time)
You might build a workaround for this.

BTW i don't understand why the "original" Langpack 3-times bigger (as installed) than the script made one.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 08:54 PM, said:

fenyo, I found differences in installers including 3.0 SP2 magyar language, with installers in other languages (specifically with spanish and danish with which I compared). When processing magyar language this 2 files, both beyond 9 MB, are not incorporated to the installers:

DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsData000a.dll
DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsLexicons000a.dll

Whoa!

So actually just the hungarian version is corrupted.
Fine....

Edit:
I haven't find any of these files in any of the directories. (i've extracted all DNFx.EXE the script made)
Which original-installer contains these files?

Edit2:
Ok, i've found similar files:
DNF30\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsData0009.dll
DNF30\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsLexicons0009.dll
The last character differs.
But these files are not in LNG.

This post has been edited by fenyo: 03 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

[strel]

These files you point are not in question, they are present in spanish and danish versions too. The problem is with that I told you. You can find them in administrative installs of 3.5 SP1 langpack except for magyar.

This post has been edited by strel: 03 January 2009 - 02:49 PM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 09:41 PM, said:

These files you point are not in question, they are present in spanish and danish versions too. The problem is with that I told you. You can find them in administrative installs of 3.5 SP1 langpack except for magyar. But you probably may find it if you install langpack normally in your HD.

Ouh. So these files are not corrupted, they're missing.
And you're tellin' me these files are not language-neutral?
Is there any chance that THIS contains these files?
Blaaah... I can't make an administrative install of these installer (to see if it contains the files)
...switches, switches........

This post has been edited by fenyo: 03 January 2009 - 02:55 PM

[strel]

I think these files are contained in the langpack for 3.5 SP1, but for some reason not extracted in the administrative install (which is the one used by this script). The update for 3.0 SP1 langpack is not for this version.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 09:55 PM, said:

The update for 3.0 SP1 langpack is not for this version.

You mean THIS?
It's SP2, the main title is wrong! It says its SP1, but if you look down, you can see it's version: SP2.

[strel]

I hadn't seen it. OK. I didn't know this update, but I think it is not included there, first, for size, and second, this update don't exist for spanish language but for danish. In danish I've checked these files are created in administrative install, and third, where are the MB lost among administrative install and normal install?. It's something with the hungarian 3.5 SP1 language pack.

This post has been edited by strel: 03 January 2009 - 03:06 PM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 10:03 PM, said:

I hadn't seen it. OK. I didn't know this update, but I think it is not included there, first, for size, and second, this update don't exist for spanish language but for danish. In danish I've checked these files are created in administrative install, and third, where are the MB lost among administrative install and normal install?. It's something with the hungarian 3.5 SP1 language pack.

So you're tellin' me that 3.0 SP2 LangPack alone package is good, or not?

[strel]

I thought this was an update, sorry. Well no idea why microsoft is releasing another language pack for 3.0 SP2, but it should be fine. Although the script don't support it at the moment. Let me do some test.

But I really have no idea of what this last langpack is made for, and why it only exists for some languages.

This post has been edited by strel: 04 January 2009 - 08:11 AM

[Kiki Burgh]

hello strel! thanks for continuing (and improving) this script where TC left off ... may i ask though if output has already been tried with HFSLIP?