[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 06:11 PM, said:

2 fenyo
I got the same results. But, what do you exactly mean when you say Microsoft Update don't recognize it, does it offer to you 3.5 SP1 langpack for downloading?

No! It offers me to download 3.0 SP2 Language Pack.
3.5, 2.0, 1.1 are all OK.
I've just noticed, that MU site offers it again with "original" 3.0 SP2 Language Pack installed. [link]
So i think it's a Microsoft Update bug. (it wouldn't be the first time)
You might build a workaround for this.

BTW i don't understand why the "original" Langpack 3-times bigger (as installed) than the script made one.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 08:54 PM, said:

fenyo, I found differences in installers including 3.0 SP2 magyar language, with installers in other languages (specifically with spanish and danish with which I compared). When processing magyar language this 2 files, both beyond 9 MB, are not incorporated to the installers:

DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsData000a.dll
DNF30\LNG\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsLexicons000a.dll

Whoa!

So actually just the hungarian version is corrupted.
Fine....

Edit:
I haven't find any of these files in any of the directories. (i've extracted all DNFx.EXE the script made)
Which original-installer contains these files?

Edit2:
Ok, i've found similar files:
DNF30\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsData0009.dll
DNF30\Win\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.0\WPF\NlsLexicons0009.dll
The last character differs.
But these files are not in LNG.

This post has been edited by fenyo: 03 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

[strel]

These files you point are not in question, they are present in spanish and danish versions too. The problem is with that I told you. You can find them in administrative installs of 3.5 SP1 langpack except for magyar.

This post has been edited by strel: 03 January 2009 - 02:49 PM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 09:41 PM, said:

These files you point are not in question, they are present in spanish and danish versions too. The problem is with that I told you. You can find them in administrative installs of 3.5 SP1 langpack except for magyar. But you probably may find it if you install langpack normally in your HD.

Ouh. So these files are not corrupted, they're missing.
And you're tellin' me these files are not language-neutral?
Is there any chance that THIS contains these files?
Blaaah... I can't make an administrative install of these installer (to see if it contains the files)
...switches, switches........

This post has been edited by fenyo: 03 January 2009 - 02:55 PM

[strel]

I think these files are contained in the langpack for 3.5 SP1, but for some reason not extracted in the administrative install (which is the one used by this script). The update for 3.0 SP1 langpack is not for this version.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 09:55 PM, said:

The update for 3.0 SP1 langpack is not for this version.

You mean THIS?
It's SP2, the main title is wrong! It says its SP1, but if you look down, you can see it's version: SP2.

[strel]

I hadn't seen it. OK. I didn't know this update, but I think it is not included there, first, for size, and second, this update don't exist for spanish language but for danish. In danish I've checked these files are created in administrative install, and third, where are the MB lost among administrative install and normal install?. It's something with the hungarian 3.5 SP1 language pack.

This post has been edited by strel: 03 January 2009 - 03:06 PM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 10:03 PM, said:

I hadn't seen it. OK. I didn't know this update, but I think it is not included there, first, for size, and second, this update don't exist for spanish language but for danish. In danish I've checked these files are created in administrative install, and third, where are the MB lost among administrative install and normal install?. It's something with the hungarian 3.5 SP1 language pack.

So you're tellin' me that 3.0 SP2 LangPack alone package is good, or not?

[strel]

I thought this was an update, sorry. Well no idea why microsoft is releasing another language pack for 3.0 SP2, but it should be fine. Although the script don't support it at the moment. Let me do some test.

But I really have no idea of what this last langpack is made for, and why it only exists for some languages.

This post has been edited by strel: 04 January 2009 - 08:11 AM

[Kiki Burgh]

hello strel! thanks for continuing (and improving) this script where TC left off ... may i ask though if output has already been tried with HFSLIP?

[strel]

Nop. I don't use it. But the basis of the script are the same old admin installs. After having a quick reading on HFSLIP basis, and take a quick look to the HFSLIP script, I think resultant installers from synthesized version should work too without problems in HFSLIP.

Any of you using it can confirm it. So, please...

I realize switchless feature is intended for using installers with HFSLIP, as I suspected. For future updates, I'll keep this feature to maintain compatibility with HFSLIP, but optionally, this is, people who don't use HFSLIP will can have unique set of installers that could be switched from silent to passive.

This post has been edited by strel: 04 January 2009 - 05:52 AM

[Jediron]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 06:11 PM, said:

2 Jediron
Depends on the software you run. .NET is only for software that is made for using this frameworks ("managed code" in MS jargon). Not all software use .NET and not all software that use .NET, use the same #.# version. Maybe the software you use, needs only 2.0, but for ongoing updates of that software, the developer may update the code to a later .NET version. For example, paint .NET have changed its framework needs from 2.0 to 3.5 in recent versions. Up to you.
Thx.

Well, i want to install it so that NET will always work, with everything. No hassle about version, NET is there; always. Is this possible ?

[strel]

Use intallers for all the frameworks in your unattended set. You can rarely use an application that needs 1.1 but if you want to be sure include all. You can use the full merged installer or individual installers, read the install rules.

[Jediron]

So i use those three i already have and NEt 1.1 , then i have all ?

[strel]

Yes, until MS releases .NET 4.0, probably during this year.

This post has been edited by strel: 03 January 2009 - 06:47 PM

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 3 2009, 10:20 PM, said:

I really have no idea of what this last langpack is made for,

I think because it contains only 3.0 SP2 LangPack alone. You can see it's date is the same when the 2.0/3.0/3.5 Langpack released. (2008. 11. 13.)

Now i've installed a clean XP on VMware again, i've installed .NET 3.5 SP1 full redistributable (231Mbytes) without internet access. After that i tried to install .NET 3.0 SP2 Language Pack from Microsoft Update Website, but it failed!! It have throwed me error code 0x13EC.
So i installed .NET 3.5 SP1 langpack.
After that i've visited MU website, 2.0 LangPack disappeared, but 3.0 SP2 LangPack still remains!!
I've searched the whole C:\ for the 4 files you mentioned, but i found nothing.
These files are truly not exist in any of the 3.0 SP2 hungarian Language Packs.
This (the lack of these 4 files) must be the real reason why MU website offers me continually the .NET 3.0 SP2 LangPack.
So microsoft screwed up again...

I bet i can't use these files from other languages...


Anyway, i want to thank you for your excellent support! I really appreciate it.
Thank you!

[strel]

These 4 files exists only in the admin install of languages other than magyar, not after intalling in the OS.

About the stand alone 3.0 SP2 langpack, to me it's a nonsense, why some languages have it and some others not? I'm not confident in any way with that packet.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 4 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

These 4 files exists only in the admin install of languages other than magyar, not after intalling in the OS.

Ouh. OK. Then why MU website continually offers me 3.0 SP2 Langpack? And what these 4 files need for?

strel, on Jan 4 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

About the stand alone 3.0 SP2 langpack, to me it's a nonsense, why some languages have it and some others not? I'm not confident in any way with that packet.

Micro$oft logic.

[strel]

I think continually if we don't manage the way for they to appear in the admin install of 3.5 SP2 language from 3.5 SP1 langpack.
And I don't think MS earns nothing with this. I though it was for updating stand alone 3.0 or 3.0 SP1 installations, but this doesn't explain the absence of some languages.

[fenyo]

strel, on Jan 4 2009, 01:47 PM, said:

I think continually if we don't manage the way for they to appear in the admin install of 3.5 SP2 language from 3.5 SP1 langpack.

???
You mean we can get those files from previous LangPacks?