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Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 Troubles "Falling down!" (ST3500320AS-SD15 and others) Rate Topic: -----

#961 User is offline   chapin4life 

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:21 PM

thanks for the reply but I live outside north america and it usually takes about 2 weeks to recieve something from US unless I pay fedex 2-3 days which costs about $120 US :no:

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

Ok I successfully flash my ST3500320AS to the SD1A firmware. Hopefully it will work fine until the end of it's natural life cycle.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 08:47 PM

Was it a drive with the busy or LB0 issue?



View Postspankerer, on Jan 22 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

Ok I successfully flash my ST3500320AS to the SD1A firmware. Hopefully it will work fine until the end of it's natural life cycle.


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Posted 23 January 2009 - 06:25 AM

View Postchapin4life, on Jan 23 2009, 02:47 AM, said:

Was it a drive with the busy or LB0 issue?



View Postspankerer, on Jan 22 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

Ok I successfully flash my ST3500320AS to the SD1A firmware. Hopefully it will work fine until the end of it's natural life cycle.



if its any help, one of my drives has the busy fault. it is not detected by the bios and when i ran the firmware upgrade it was still unable to detect the drive and hence could not apply the firmware upgrade.

ive decided to try fix this fault myself using gradius2's method. parts are ordered, just awaiting their arrival!!

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 07:24 AM

Try this free hard disk tester program for windows.

http://www.hddscan.com

:hello:

For those in Russia for disk recovery

http://rlab.ru

Other software thats supposed to allow one to reflash a drive that isn't recognized is PC-3000

again made by http://www.acelabs.ru in russia or http://www.acelaboratory.com or http://www.deepspar.com
and http://www.pc3000.com

See this tool they make...for firmware fixing

http://www.deepspar....3000-drive.html

This post has been edited by mikesw: 24 January 2009 - 07:21 AM


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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:19 AM

View Postmikesw, on Jan 23 2009, 01:24 PM, said:

Try this free hard disk tester program for windows.

http://www.hddscan.com

:hello:

For those in Russia for disk recovery

http://rlab.ru


Do you know these guys? It's not unknown for hackers to post "free" Apps in order to hack your PC. The forums look pretty empty to me...

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 08:25 AM

View Postfuchs gans, on Jan 22 2009, 07:32 AM, said:

Now please tell me, how segate finds a solution in 6 days, when they weren't able to fix the problem in the year before.


Seagate is cutting 2950 jobs and executives salaries down to 25% too.

They could just offer a "special bonus" to those who really knows (a firmware is always writing in assembly) to fix the HDD stuff. This is why they could fixed once for all so fast.

The only difference is .LOD files are cryptographed, since they have HDDs on consoles like Xbox 360, if they just didn't do that, it would be very easy to defect 360's HDDs protections to accept ANY HDD, and ANY size. Plus, it could run games from HDD without any problem.

However they still needs to release more firmwares, specially for those:

ST31500341AS
ST31000333AS
ST3640323AS
ST3640623AS
ST3320613AS
ST3320813AS
ST3160813AS

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/self...sp?DocId=207957

They says CC or LC firmwares aren't affected, but this is untrue, I already saw more than 10 complains with CC's firmwares, and 1 with LC.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:56 AM

View Postcdturri, on Jan 23 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

View Postmikesw, on Jan 23 2009, 01:24 PM, said:

Try this free hard disk tester program for windows.

http://www.hddscan.com

:hello:

For those in Russia for disk recovery

http://rlab.ru


Do you know these guys? It's not unknown for hackers to post "free" Apps in order to hack your PC. The forums look pretty empty to me...


I use HDDScan (for other purpose, on other drive) for several months and seen no problems.

GL

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:35 AM

View Posticefloe01, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 PM, said:



The new firmware has been pulled AGAIN!

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 11:55 AM

View Posticefloe01, on Jan 23 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

View Posticefloe01, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 PM, said:



The new firmware has been pulled AGAIN!


Actually no, at least MooseDT-SD1A-3D4D-16-32MB.ISO are the very same (I compared).

Gradius

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 12:18 PM

View PostGradius2, on Jan 23 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

View Posticefloe01, on Jan 23 2009, 02:35 PM, said:

View Posticefloe01, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 PM, said:



The new firmware has been pulled AGAIN!


Actually no, at least MooseDT-SD1A-3D4D-16-32MB.ISO are the very same (I compared).

Gradius

Well that's just strange as hell. I went three different paths to arrive at the link above and the page from the 19th was up that said it was in validation. I saw it right before I posted. Now the page is back to normal with the new firmware again. Weird... :wacko:

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:08 PM

New firmware just released for the following drives (1.5 TB included!):

ST31500341AS
ST31000333AS
ST3640323AS
ST3640623AS
ST3320613AS
ST3320813AS
ST3160813AS

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/self...sp?DocId=207957

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 01:33 PM

View Postcdturri, on Jan 23 2009, 04:08 PM, said:

New firmware just released for the following drives (1.5 TB included!):

ST31500341AS
ST31000333AS
ST3640323AS
ST3640623AS
ST3320613AS
ST3320813AS
ST3160813AS

http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/self...sp?DocId=207957


Sigh!, they didn't put a CC1H or better for those with CC1F and lower.

Goodbye Seagate, forever!

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 02:03 PM

So do we know that CC1H and newer (CC1J) are good?

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:01 PM

View Postf00kie, on Jan 23 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

So do we know that CC1H and newer (CC1J) are good?


CC1J seems fine, not sure about CC1H.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:22 PM

View Postf00kie, on Jan 24 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

So do we know that CC1H and newer (CC1J) are good?


Stated very clearly and openly on the update page...

* Note: If your drive has CC or LC firmware, your drive is not affected and no further action is required. Attempting to flash the firmware of a drive with CC or LC firmware will result in rendering your drive inoperable.

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Posted 23 January 2009 - 03:49 PM

View PostKarlston, on Jan 23 2009, 04:22 PM, said:

View Postf00kie, on Jan 24 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

So do we know that CC1H and newer (CC1J) are good?


Stated very clearly and openly on the update page...

* Note: If your drive has CC or LC firmware, your drive is not affected and no further action is required. Attempting to flash the firmware of a drive with CC or LC firmware will result in rendering your drive inoperable.


Yes it does; however, people want to have the latest and greatest firmware no matter what. The reason is because
what ever is the newest version must fix something: a bug, make it faster, make it more reliable etc.

I'd like to get newer firmware versions to for my non-SATA seagate, maxtor, western digital drives regardless if they are
3.5 or 2.5 drives. I update my dvd/cd rw drives as soon as they provide a newer firmware fix under the assumption it
must of fixed something - likewise for the HDD drives too.

Note:

the newest firmware is S1B and the various xDxH means the number of disks and the number of heads in the HDD.
Since the filename doesn't mention cache size. One can say either the firmware is independent of it or they are all the
same cache size. for the model numbers listed.

The easiest way is to find a tool that can dump the firmware in the drive and save it to a file from ones current drive.
One could also write the new firmware to the drive, read it back and do a comparison of what got written or do a
checksum, md5 hash too.

This post has been edited by mikesw: 24 January 2009 - 07:24 AM


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Posted 23 January 2009 - 04:39 PM

View PostKarlston, on Jan 23 2009, 06:22 PM, said:

View Postf00kie, on Jan 24 2009, 06:03 AM, said:

So do we know that CC1H and newer (CC1J) are good?


Stated very clearly and openly on the update page...

* Note: If your drive has CC or LC firmware, your drive is not affected and no further action is required. Attempting to flash the firmware of a drive with CC or LC firmware will result in rendering your drive inoperable.


LOL, and you still believe on them?

Just unbelievable !

View Postmikesw, on Jan 23 2009, 06:49 PM, said:

Yes it does; however, people want to have the latest and greatest firmware no matter what. The reason is because
what ever is the newest version must fix something: a bug, make it faster, make it more reliable etc.

I'd like to get newer firmware versions to for my non-SATA seagate, maxtor, western digital drives regardless if they are
3.5 or 2.5 drives. I update my dvd/cd rw drives as soon as they provide a newer firmware fix under the assumption it
must of fixed something - likewise for the HDD drives too.

Note:

the newest firmware is S2B and the various xDxH means the number of disks and the number of heads in the HDD.
Since the filename doesn't mention cache size. One can say either the firmware is independent of it or they are all the
same cache size. for the model numbers listed.

The easiest way is to find a tool that can dump the firmware in the drive and save it to a file from ones current drive.
One could also write the new firmware to the drive, read it back and do a comparison of what got written or do a
checksum, md5 hash too.


On old days (back in 2000) I used to hack firmwares for Pioneer burners (DVR-Axx family) as you can see here:
http://gradius.rpc1.org

You're 100% right, they always fix something, improves stability and speed, on newer firmwares.

The biggest issue I'm getting with CC1F is access time, way too high, they're 15.6ms on my 1TBs HDDs, while the normal would be 12.5ms or less (I get that on my 750GBs).

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:52 AM

View PostGradius2, on Jan 24 2009, 08:39 AM, said:

LOL, and you still believe on them?

Just unbelievable !


Huh? Why not?

You think we should do the direct opposite and flash it anyway?

After you...

View PostGradius2, on Jan 24 2009, 08:44 AM, said:

You're 100% right, they always fix something, improves stability and speed, on newer firmwares.


Absolutely!

SD15 fixed the non-bricking issue of previous firmware.

SD17 fixed the non-stuttering issue on RAIDed drives or during video streaming.

:-)

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:59 AM

View Postchapin4life, on Jan 22 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

Was it a drive with the busy or LB0 issue?



View Postspankerer, on Jan 22 2009, 08:42 PM, said:

Ok I successfully flash my ST3500320AS to the SD1A firmware. Hopefully it will work fine until the end of it's natural life cycle.


I have 2 500 GBs, one has the BSY error, the other one still functions. So i flashed the survivor. I'm still looking for the RS232-TTL part to fix my bricked HDD.

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