[Clint]

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 8 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

if you don't want to accept our help stay with your issue. We said what you should do.

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 11 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

sorry, shrinking the OS without using brain.exe is a bad idea.

And helping out without using "polite.exe" really ain't nice either.

I've been at this game far more long than you, but I still haven't reverted to beeing unpolite to people in need of advice.
And speaking of advice, I'm quite sick of seeing people questioning peoples choices and refusing to give advice in the direction asked for.

Shape up!

[MPalmz]

bledd, on Jan 16 2009, 07:38 AM, said:

MPalmz, on Jan 11 2009, 07:03 AM, said:

Why are there so many jack-asses in this community? Catching a guy on technicalities when there is an obvious language barrier is just not cool. He simply wants to slim his OS as much as possible.

without trying to look big headed, both myself and MagicAndre have posted in nlite/vlite a lot, and have used both many times

we've both arrived to the same conclusion, that it's best to keep components that you need a part of, instead of scrambling for a solution when things don't work.

we're simply passing on what we've learned the 'hard way'

and i'd never target someone because of a language barrier , one of the thing i love about msfn is the great mix of languages / localities

no need to fly off the handle and jump at our throats

It's not the answers I'm concerned about it's the delivery. I agree with your advice, I just don't understand how experience means you have to give it the "hard way." Just seems mean.

And it's just in my nature to defend people when it looks like there is condescension. Post #'s 3 and 4 explain my frustration regarding language. What I mean is that I believe there was a miss communication there and yet Magic begins to condescend almost right away. But whatever, Magic obviously knows a lot and I still want advice in the future, however it comes. Just trying to look out for my fellow MSFN people.

This post has been edited by MPalmz: 17 January 2009 - 03:18 AM

[bledd]

spilled milk

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Clint, on Jan 16 2009, 11:20 PM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 8 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

if you don't want to accept our help stay with your issue. We said what you should do.

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 11 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

sorry, shrinking the OS without using brain.exe is a bad idea.

And helping out without using "polite.exe" really ain't nice either.

I've been at this game far more long than you, but I still haven't reverted to beeing unpolite to people in need of advice.
And speaking of advice, I'm quite sick of seeing people questioning peoples choices and refusing to give advice in the direction asked for.

Shape up!

OMG Clint chill! (Besides JUST how sure you have been at this game far longer than him? Or any of us for that matter?)

Besides removing those components only removes the space needed by them and hampers your os. They only "Slow" down your system when you use them.

This is all really moot anyways because vLite was not made for Windows7 and people should stop complaining when an app made for OTHER OS'es doesn't work right on the OS that is still a BETA...

This post has been edited by Kelsenellenelvian: 17 January 2009 - 04:04 AM

[Clint]

Kelsenellenelvian, on Jan 17 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

Clint, on Jan 16 2009, 11:20 PM, said:

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 8 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

if you don't want to accept our help stay with your issue. We said what you should do.

MagicAndre1981, on Jan 11 2009, 01:08 PM, said:

sorry, shrinking the OS without using brain.exe is a bad idea.

And helping out without using "polite.exe" really ain't nice either.

I've been at this game far more long than you, but I still haven't reverted to beeing unpolite to people in need of advice.
And speaking of advice, I'm quite sick of seeing people questioning peoples choices and refusing to give advice in the direction asked for.

Shape up!

OMG Clint chill! (Besides JUST how sure you have been at this game far longer than him? Or any of us for that matter?)

Besides removing those components only removes the space needed by them and hampers your os. They only "Slow" down your system when you use them.

This is all really moot anyways because vLite was not made for Windows7 and people should stop complaining when an app made for OTHER OS'es doesn't work right on the OS that is still a BETA...

Taken the content and insight of his posts, and the simple fact that I've pretty much all the time been ahead of the author of vlite. I did howerever not say ALL of you in ALL aspects, nice try though...

That aside, I see too much posts stating "why do you want to to that?" or "that OS is not meant for this purpose"...and other in those lines. The backbone of tweaking, ripping and minimizing OS's is the curiosity and willingness to experiment. That is the exact same cause that lead nlite and vlite to surface. Let them play and discover, this is one of the fundamenta of progress and development.

Anyway, my last words in the matter.

[cluberti]

True, but removing WMP and then asking why the WMP codecs or plugins aren't working is just plain silly. Which is what most of these questions boil down to - "I removed <x> and now <some subcomponent of x> doesn't work! Why!?", and why we've gotten somewhat jaded over the years answering it. It's fairly obvious in most cases as to why (for example) the WMP codecs or plugins don't work, because the OP removed them. Hence the answers.

[Clint]

cluberti, on Jan 19 2009, 07:45 AM, said:

True, but removing WMP and then asking why the WMP codecs or plugins aren't working is just plain silly. Which is what most of these questions boil down to - "I removed <x> and now <some subcomponent of x> doesn't work! Why!?", and why we've gotten somewhat jaded over the years answering it. It's fairly obvious in most cases as to why (for example) the WMP codecs or plugins don't work, because the OP removed them. Hence the answers.

Well, removing WMP is not allways removing only WMP... Due to the massive userbase Nihu has to cater for there is a good chance that some other things has had to be taken out to keep some users combination of components working. This user can very well be fine with removing WMP and the add let's say kLite pack, simply because he might have removed a component that turned out to be dependent of those "extra" files that Nuhi had to remove when removing WMP. And here we touch the cause why I've been bitching about Nuhi beeing a tightass about giving info of what gets removed, he gathers info but never let's it out. As long as this is the case we will never see any real improvments. Personally I'm fine, my knowledge stretches a bit further than what button does what in vlite, but I feel for the common users here.

But I agree in the sense that sometime the users gets too "triggerhappy" in their "vliteclicking" OS modding. Again, the users would benefit and learn whats really is going on under the hood if the author of vlite shared the info with them. All would benefit and progress would be made.

Like it used to be...