[DerSnoezie]

jkc120, on Jan 15 2009, 01:14 AM, said:

Another question I have about the dataset. Would it be useful to see the OS the drive is running in (Windows (with specific version info), Linux (with specific kernel info), FreeBSD (with specific release info))?

The reason I ask is because I know, for example, FreeBSD doesn't support NCQ and perhaps that (or some other ATA command that one or the other OS doesn't support or has a buggy driver) is contributing to the wedging of the drive?

Yes, unfortunately the OS is missing from the list. We have some reports from mac users, but none from Linux or FreeBSD, so it would make a nice addition to the dataset. Thanks for the tip!

BTW You may have noticed that we have very few failure entries of the "5QJ0****" serial number. The same can be said for drives manufactured in China. So perhaps yours have a higher chance of survival. But then again our dataset only covers a small amount of the thousands of failed drives reported worldwide, so I wouldn't count on it. Especially when they have the infamous SD15 firmware.

This post has been edited by DerSnoezie: 14 January 2009 - 06:45 PM

[jkc120]

DerSnoezie, on Jan 14 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

BTW If you add some more characteristics, we could list your drives in the dataset. Most of the data is printed on the sticker on top of your drive. The manufacturing date is based on a 5 digit code, starting with a 0. We use a simple tool to translate this code into the manufacturing date. The link to this file is also present in the main thread on msfn, but I can't remember exactly which page..

Edit: You can find the link to the date code calculator on page 9, post #176.

Here's the info to add, I have 2 of the drives. They're identical in all the info except for the serial # of course:

5QJ0*:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09133(29-09-08):WUXISG:N/A:OEM:jkc120:USA:Ok_so_far
5QJ0*:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09133(29-09-08):WUXISG:N/A:OEM:jkc120:USA:Ok_so_far

Note: it was puchased on the 13th of December, 2008, but has only been in the system for 10-14 days or so, I forget exactly when I first fired it up.

OS on this is FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE/amd64.

This post has been edited by jkc120: 14 January 2009 - 06:40 PM

[DerSnoezie]

jkc120, on Jan 15 2009, 01:39 AM, said:

Here's the info to add, I have 2 of the drives. They're identical in all the info except for the serial # of course:

5QJ0*:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09133(29-09-08):WUXISG:N/A:OEM:jkc120:USA:Ok_so_far
5QJ0*:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09133(29-09-08):WUXISG:N/A:OEM:jkc120:USA:Ok_so_far

Note: it was puchased on the 13th of December, 2008, but has only been in the system for 10-14 days or so, I forget exactly when I first fired it up.

OS on this is FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE/amd64.

Thanks! I'll upload your entries right away and set the purchase date of the drives to 01-01-09, I think that will cover it. Since you are running a special OS it might be nice to hear further feedback from you on the drives; if they do fail - which I certainly hope not - let us know.

[jkc120]

DerSnoezie, on Jan 14 2009, 07:16 PM, said:

BTW You may have noticed that we have very few failure entries of the "5QJ0****" serial number. The same can be said for drives manufactured in China. So perhaps yours have a higher chance of survival. But then again our dataset only covers a small amount of the thousands of failed drives reported worldwide, so I wouldn't count on it. Especially when they have the infamous SD15 firmware.

Yes, I'm hoping the 5QJ0* entries are just the typical failures and unrelated to the problems being reported. After all, drives can and DO fail. Maybe amid the slew of problems, the China/5QJ0* failure reports are just the more typical failures. Well, a guy can hope right?

I will certainly report back if (and I really hope not) either drive fails for some reason. I'm going to keep the number of times the drive is fully powered down/up to a minimum, until I hear of a potential resolution or a recall or what.

[DerSnoezie]

jkc120, on Jan 15 2009, 02:59 AM, said:

Yes, I'm hoping the 5QJ0* entries are just the typical failures and unrelated to the problems being reported. After all, drives can and DO fail. Maybe amid the slew of problems, the China/5QJ0* failure reports are just the more typical failures. Well, a guy can hope right?

I will certainly report back if (and I really hope not) either drive fails for some reason. I'm going to keep the number of times the drive is fully powered down/up to a minimum, until I hear of a potential resolution or a recall or what.

We'll just have to wait & see. BTW it's time for some sleep now over here, I'll be back in about 10 hours..

[DeadST3500320AS]

Well, here is another SeaBrick, barely a month old with no BIOS detection:
9QM7****:ST3500320AS:9BX154-303:SD15:09116:KRATSG:(11-25-08):(01-13-09):DeadST3500320AS:USA:(No detect in BIOS)

What a piece of junk...

[Karyudo]

@DerSnoezie: Have you ever heard of blist? It's a free, online database that's super-easy to use. Might be just the ticket for allowing people to add their own data, and view everyone else's.

It's at www.blist.com.

[Karyudo]

Made my own blist from the data: http://app.blist.com/#/blist/karyudo/Seaga...-Drive-Failures

[sskev]

This is the second drive that fails on my PC. Sorry i didn't kept the info of the previous one.

62:9QJ1TFK9:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09107:KRATSG:NOV2008:(01-02-09):OEM:SSKEV:GREEECE:No detect in Bios

[DerSnoezie]

Great tip, I'm going to have look at it right now!

Karyudo, on Jan 15 2009, 05:55 AM, said:

@DerSnoezie: Have you ever heard of blist? It's a free, online database that's super-easy to use. Might be just the ticket for allowing people to add their own data, and view everyone else's.

It's at www.blist.com.

[DerSnoezie]

Every bit of information is welcome Your country will be marked on the map!

Edit: Greece has been added to the map.

sskev, on Jan 15 2009, 09:05 AM, said:

This is the second drive that fails on my PC. Sorry i didn't kept the info of the previous one.

62:9QJ1TFK9:ST31000340AS:9BX158-303:SD15:09107:KRATSG:NOV2008:(01-02-09):OEM:SSKEV:GREEECE:No detect in Bios

This post has been edited by DerSnoezie: 15 January 2009 - 07:35 AM

[jkc120]

DerSnoezie, on Jan 15 2009, 08:19 AM, said:

Great tip, I'm going to have look at it right now!

Karyudo, on Jan 15 2009, 05:55 AM, said:

@DerSnoezie: Have you ever heard of blist? It's a free, online database that's super-easy to use. Might be just the ticket for allowing people to add their own data, and view everyone else's.

It's at www.blist.com.

Did you by chance include any of the reported info from the seagate forums? Are they all represented here? If not, I'd be happy to go through that thread and pull out the reported failures. Let me know!

[X2-3800]

Is someone there wich have problems with the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1,5TB serial: ST31500341AS ?

For now my drive is working, but it is only enabled for a short time for backup.

[DerSnoezie]

jkc120, on Jan 15 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

Did you by chance include any of the reported info from the seagate forums? Are they all represented here? If not, I'd be happy to go through that thread and pull out the reported failures. Let me know!

A considerable amount of the entries have been reported by people who were active at the seagate forum some time ago. The original thread:

http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/messag...;thread.id=3283

(started by Inviste, 188 posts) was locked by the moderators and hence could not grow further. Attempts to link people to msfn are actively countered by seagate moderators, by altering or deleting posts and simply filtering out key words, also in PM! The only thing that more or less works is to direct people via google search and also those efforts are monitored by seagate. If you get too active they will ban you from using their forum, just like they did to rimask, fatlip, me and many others. However, the ban only covers interactive usage, you can still go there and read stuff.

Ofcourse I appreciate your initiative and most likely you'll initially be able to attract additional interest to this thread, so I would be happy if you'd give it a try. But keep in mind that the data needs to be gathered in the correct format, or else the dataset will become a big mess

For the same reason I'm currenlty having my doubts about placing the dataset on blist, but perhaps I'll place it over there and also keep one copy over here.

This post has been edited by DerSnoezie: 15 January 2009 - 10:06 AM

[jkc120]

Ahh I see, thanks.

Well, luckily for me Newegg was willing to let me RMA these drives at 32 days (2 days past their 30 day policy), and even waive the restocking fee since I'm buying 2 Western Digital Black 1TB/32MB cache drives!

So unfortunately, I may not have any more data to provide on my particular drives, unless *knock on wood* they die before I get the WD drives next week.

[DerSnoezie]

jkc120, on Jan 15 2009, 04:45 PM, said:

Well, luckily for me Newegg was willing to let me RMA these drives at 32 days (2 days past their 30 day policy), and even waive the restocking fee since I'm buying 2 Western Digital Black 1TB/32MB cache drives!

Sounds good

[thlickish]

I have two of them running in my Netgear ReadyNAS Duo. They are doing well so far.

XX:9QM2R***:ST3500320AS:N/A:SD15:N/A:N/A:Oct2008:N/A:OEM:thlickish:Germany:fine
XX:5QM24***:ST3500320AS:N/A:SD15:N/A:N/A:Oct2008:N/A:OEM:thlickish:Germany:fine

If Part No, DataCode and SiteCode are important information, I can add them later.

[DerSnoezie]

thlickish, on Jan 15 2009, 06:09 PM, said:

I have two of them running in my Netgear ReadyNAS Duo. They are doing well so far.

XX:9QM2R***:ST3500320AS:N/A:SD15:N/A:N/A:Oct2008:N/A:OEM:thlickish:Germany:fine
XX:5QM24***:ST3500320AS:N/A:SD15:N/A:N/A:Oct2008:N/A:OEM:thlickish:Germany:fine

If Part No, DataCode and SiteCode are important information, I can add them later.

Thanks for your support! DateCode and SiteCode are kinda important, since they show when and where your drives where manufactured. We will translate the 5 digit DateCode to a standard date notition for you.

Sitecode: KRATSG = Thailand, WUXISG = China

This post has been edited by DerSnoezie: 15 January 2009 - 11:16 AM

[Jack_Steel]

Here is my data:

65:5QM00PXE:ST3500320AS:9BX154-303:SD15:08225:WUXISG:2008-01-21:N/A:N/A:Jack_Steel:Austria:still_running:WinXP_32bit

This post has been edited by Jack_Steel: 15 January 2009 - 12:59 PM

[DerSnoezie]

Jack_Steel, on Jan 15 2009, 07:54 PM, said:

Here is my data:

65:5QM00PXE:ST3500320AS:9BX154-303:SD15:08225:WUXISG:2008-01-21:N/A:N/A:Jack_Steel:Austria:still_running:WinXP_32bit

Thanks Jack It is very important that drives which are still running fine are also included in the dataset. Based on the codes yours was manufactured at China on 5 December 2007. For now this the oldest drive in the list!