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UPDATE: I am now using Windows 7 x64 build 7100. The INI is below and should work for both 64-bit and 32-bit.

Hardware:
Shuttle SN27P2
AMD A64 X2 5000+ Black Edition (nForce 570 Ultra chipset)
ATi Radeon HD 4850
2x2GB Patriot DDR2
1x2GB Patriot DDR2
7200.12 500GB

Drivers:
AMD DC Optimizer
ATi Catalyst 9.5 for Windows 7 x64
Realtek HD 2.23 (Vista version but it works)
nForce chipset drivers are pre-installed

Games test:
Left 4 Dead works
CoD 5 works
Unreal Tournament (UT99) works using OpenGL!

CMD network tweaks:
netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal
netsh int tcp set global congestionprovider=ctcp
netsh int tcp set global ecncapability=disabled
netsh int tcp set global rss=enabled
netsh int tcp set global chimney=enabled
netsh interface ipv4 set subinterface "Local Area Connection" mtu=1492 store=persistent

CMD disable hibernate:
powercfg -h off

UPDATED 5/19: Windows 7 RC1 Build 7100 32/64 bit INI
; vLite preset file
;
;#Environment:
; vLite v1.2
; Framework 2.0.50727.4903
; Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7100.0 64-bit
;
;#Target:
; Windows 7 ULTIMATE 64-bit 
; Version 6.1 English (United States)
;
[Compatibility]

[CustomHide]

[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Games-Inbox Games
Paint
Snipping Tool
Speech Support
Welcome Center
Wordpad
;# Drivers #
Diva Server
Modems
Printers-Generic printer
QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter
Scanners
Storage controllers-Adaptec
Storage controllers-Elxstor
Storage controllers-IBM ServeRAID
Storage controllers-ICP vortex
Storage controllers-Intel (Matrix)
Storage controllers-nVidia
Storage controllers-SiS
Storage controllers-Via
TV Tuners-ADS Technologies
TV Tuners-ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
TV Tuners-AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.
TV Tuners-Compro Technology Inc.
TV Tuners-Creatix
TV Tuners-Hauppauge
TV Tuners-KNC ONE GmbH
TV Tuners-KWorld
TV Tuners-Lumanate, Inc.
TV Tuners-Philips Semiconductors
TV Tuners-Pinnacle Systems
TV Tuners-TerraTec Electronic GmbH
TV Tuners-VidzMedia Pte Ltd.
;# Hardware Support #
Dynamic Volume Manager
Fax Support
Floppy Disk Support
Infrared Support
Internet Small Computer System Interface (iSCSI)
Microsoft Multi-Path Bus
Modem Support
Smartcards
Windows HotStart
Windows Image Acquisition
Windows Portable Devices
;# Languages #
Arabic
Brazillian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Czech
Danish
Dutch
Estonian
Finnish
French
German
Greek
Hebrew
Hungarian
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Latvian
Lithuanian
Norwegian
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Serbian
Simplified Chinese
Slovak
Slovenian
Spanish
Swedish
Table Driven Text Input Processor
Thai
Traditional Chinese
Turkish
Ukrainian
;# Multimedia #
Media Center
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
Sound Recorder
;# Network #
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Windows Mail
;# System #
Beep
BitLocker Drive Encryption
Natural Language
Tablet PC
Windows Defender
Windows Easy Transfer
Zip Folder

[Options]
DEP (Data Execution Prevention) = Default
User Account Control (UAC) = Disabled
AntiSpyware Realtime Protection = Default
Memory requirement = Default
AutoPlay = Disabled
Paging Executive = Disabled
Power scheme = High performance
Power button = Shutdown
Sleep button = Sleep
Control Panel - Classic View = Enabled
Show hidden files and folders = Yes
Show protected operating system files = Yes
Show extensions for known file types = Yes
IE Phishing Filter = Enabled
IE Phishing Verification Ballon Tips = Enabled

[Services]

[Protection]

[Drivers]

[Unattended]

[Hotfixes]

[LanguagePacks]

Edited by darklocust, 19 May 2009 - 05:10 PM.



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thank you darklocust, I'll be using your .ini as a starting point for making my own minimized .iso.
I'll get back here as I get is as small as possible (with internet-through-lan ability)

Edited by marauder16, 17 January 2009 - 04:27 PM.

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thank you darklocust, I'll be using you .ini as a starting point for making my own minimized .iso.
I'll get back here as I get is as small as possible (with internet-through-lan ability)


A couple things you'll need to keep for sure:
- Error reporting - gives the wer.dll if removed
- Windows firewall and dependencies - the firewall is very good so I would keep anyways
- Secondary logon - lets you run as administrator on apps for non-admin users w/o logging off

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Was the dual core optimizer updated for Vista/7?
The last time I checked up on it, it was not written for Vista and there was some rabble about how Vista didn't need it.

Edited by Vinneh, 13 January 2009 - 09:43 AM.


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Was the dual core optimizer updated for Vista/7?
The last time I checked up on it, it was not written for Vista and there was some rabble about how Vista didn't need it.


I'm an old school gamer that plays UT99 so when I installed Vista, that particular game would stutter so I tried the DC Optimizer and it worked. It's not specifically compiled for Vista but it did solve my stutter problems.

On Win7, I installed it thinking that UT99 would work but the game is not playable at all so it may not even be needed. I haven't tested newer games such as L4D or CoD5 without the DCO.

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With Pidgin, foobar, Visual C++ 2008 express, Office, foxit, and free download manager, my install size is 10.3GB.
My (working) ini:

; vLite preset file
;
;#Environment:
; vLite v1.2
; Framework 2.0.50727.3521
; Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7000.0 64-bit
;
;#Target:
; Windows 7 ULTIMATE 64-bit 
; Version 6.1 English (United States)
; vLited with v1.2 (1/13/2009 2:44:51 PM)
;
[Compatibility]
Aero Glass
Internet Explorer
Recommended
System Restore
Windows Update

[CustomHide]

[Components]
;# Accessories #
Accessibility
Character Map
Games-Inbox Games
Games-Premium Inbox Games
Mobility Center
Notepad
Snipping Tool
Speech Support
Welcome Center
Windows Sidebar and Gadgets
;# Drivers #
Diva Server
Modems
Printers-Generic printer
QLogic Fibre Channel Adapter
Scanners
Storage controllers-Adaptec
Storage controllers-Elxstor
Storage controllers-IBM ServeRAID
Storage controllers-ICP vortex
Storage controllers-Intel (Matrix)
Storage controllers-nVidia
Storage controllers-SiS
Storage controllers-Via
TV Tuners-ADS Technologies
TV Tuners-ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
TV Tuners-AVerMedia Technologies, Inc.
TV Tuners-Compro Technology Inc.
TV Tuners-Conexant Systems, Inc.
TV Tuners-Creatix
TV Tuners-Hauppauge
TV Tuners-KNC ONE GmbH
TV Tuners-KWorld
TV Tuners-Lumanate, Inc.
TV Tuners-Philips Semiconductors
TV Tuners-Pinnacle Systems
TV Tuners-TerraTec Electronic GmbH
TV Tuners-VidzMedia Pte Ltd.
;# Hardware Support #
Dynamic Volume Manager
Fax Support
Floppy Disk Support
Infrared Support
Internet Small Computer System Interface (iSCSI)
Modem Support
Smartcards
Windows HotStart
XBOX 360 Controller
;# Languages #
Arabic
Brazillian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Czech
Danish
Dutch
Estonian
Finnish
French
German
Greek
Hebrew
Hungarian
Italian
Japanese
Korean
Latvian
Lithuanian
Norwegian
Polish
Portuguese
Romanian
Russian
Serbian
Simplified Chinese
Slovak
Slovenian
Spanish
Swedish
Table Driven Text Input Processor
Thai
Traditional Chinese
Turkish
Ukrainian
;# Multimedia #
Media Center
Music and Video samples
Sample Pictures
Screensavers
SideShow
Sound Recorder
;# Network #
Connect to a Network Projector
Distributed File System (DFS)
File and printer sharing (Server)
Internet Information Services (IIS)
Remote Desktop and Assistance
Remote Desktop Client
RIP Listener
Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)
Simple TCPIP services
Telnet Client
Telnet Server
TFTP Client
Windows Collaboration
Windows Mail
;# Services #
Distributed Transaction Coordinator (DTC)
Offline Files
Protected Storage
Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
Remote Registry
Routing and Remote Access
Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol (SSTP)
WebDAV (WebClient)
Windows Connect Now
Windows Event Log
Windows Remote Management
Windows Search
;# System #
Beep
BitLocker Drive Encryption
Disk Quota
Help
Jet Database Engine
Microsoft Client For NFS
Natural Language
Parental Controls
Performance Counters
Reliability and Performance Monitor
Remote Differential Compression
Run a legacy CPL elevated
Security Center
Software Quality Management (SQM)
Subsystem for UNIX-based Applications (SUA)
Sync Center
Tablet PC
Windows Easy Transfer

[Options]
DEP (Data Execution Prevention) = Default
User Account Control (UAC) = Enabled
AntiSpyware Realtime Protection = Default
AutoPlay = Enabled
Paging Executive = Enabled
Power scheme = Balanced
Power button = Default
Sleep button = Default
Control Panel - Classic View = Default
Show hidden files and folders = No
Show protected operating system files = No
Show extensions for known file types = No
IE Phishing Filter = Default
IE Phishing Verification Ballon Tips = Default

[Services]
MPSSVC = Disabled
WINDEFEND = Disabled
WSEARCH = Disabled

[Protection]

[Drivers]
C:\NVIDIA\WinVista64\181.20\English\nv_disp.inf
C:\dell\drivers\R161009\WinVista\b57nd60a.inf
C:\dell\drivers\R182475\WDM\STWRT.INF

[Unattended]
SpecRegional
AcceptEULA
SkipNewUser
NetworkLoc = 2

[Hotfixes]

[LanguagePacks]

After install, you have to do the scardd-somethingsomething.dll trick to activate, though.
Now that I think about it, you could probably do that ahead of time with dism.
Not sure, though.

Edited by Vinneh, 13 January 2009 - 08:34 PM.


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thank you darklocust, I'll be using you .ini as a starting point for making my own minimized .iso.
I'll get back here as I get is as small as possible (with internet-through-lan ability)


A couple things you'll need to keep for sure:
- Error reporting - gives the wer.dll if removed
- Windows firewall and dependencies - the firewall is very good so I would keep anyways
- Secondary logon - lets you run as administrator on apps for non-admin users w/o logging off


Great idea to have a fresh thread dedicated to x64 to be able to discuss and deal with it's unique issues.

I will say that I deleted Error Reporting and Secondary Logon and have had no issues in consequence. But I don't think Secondary logon would be a big deal since I skipped user account creation in the unattended portion of vLite.

And, incidently I installed Messenger Live today and during the install it said "Installing Error Reporting." I don't know if it was a singular function for Messenger of if it saw I was missing it and reinstalled it. I'm guessing the former.

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Sorry to double post, totally seperate topic.

Just want to say anyone looking for virtual drives for their Windows 7 x64. I strongly recommend the latest version of PowerISO. I have experimented with a few including magic ISO's Magic Disk and everything I've seen causes problems. Furthermore, the unistallation of these programs appears to be impossible. I don't know if it's something I've taken out during vLite or if it's a lingering bug in the beta OS. Has anyone else found this?

If you start with PowerISO you'll have no problems. It's trial software but so is your OS :-).

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ut 99 works fine in win 7 x64

i use open glide with no probs

I installed directx_nov2008

latest nvidia drivers

181.20_geforce_winvista_64bit_english_whql

and used DB's settings from here

http://forums.utassa...ead.php?t=67779

works a treat

I suggest if you have probs contact DB hes pretty good with ut and op system problems

nice guy who dont mind helping fellow fraggers

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ut 99 works fine in win 7 x64

i use open glide with no probs

I installed directx_nov2008

latest nvidia drivers

181.20_geforce_winvista_64bit_english_whql

and used DB's settings from here

http://forums.utassa...ead.php?t=67779

works a treat

I suggest if you have probs contact DB hes pretty good with ut and op system problems

nice guy who dont mind helping fellow fraggers


I tried both DX and OpenGL modes and still doesn't work. Maybe its due to ATI drivers or the card specifically?

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Great idea to have a fresh thread dedicated to x64 to be able to discuss and deal with it's unique issues.

I will say that I deleted Error Reporting and Secondary Logon and have had no issues in consequence. But I don't think Secondary logon would be a big deal since I skipped user account creation in the unattended portion of vLite.

And, incidently I installed Messenger Live today and during the install it said "Installing Error Reporting." I don't know if it was a singular function for Messenger of if it saw I was missing it and reinstalled it. I'm guessing the former.


That's weird. When I removed Error Reporting, it would not complete the installation and a pop-up would come up that wer.dll is missing or something like that.

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I've come to my first problem! After my PC goes to the screensaver I can't get back out! I move my mouse around, type a bunch of crap etc. and nothing happens. It's like it's trapped. I accepted an optional update from Windows update for my Samsung monitor, but I don't know if that was the problem because since installing the OS I haven't left my PC idle long enough to see it act like this.

Anyone know what service or component is in charge of this issue? Hopefully it's correctable with a service tweak and I don't need a whole new install.

last_session.ini is attached.

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Edited by MPalmz, 15 January 2009 - 03:54 AM.


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I've come to my first problem! After my PC goes to the screensaver I can't get back out! I move my mouse around, type a bunch of crap etc. and nothing happens. It's like it's trapped. I accepted an optional update from Windows update for my Samsung monitor, but I don't know if that was the problem because since installing the OS I haven't left my PC idle long enough to see it act like this.

Anyone know what service or component is in charge of this issue? Hopefully it's correctable with a service tweak and I don't need a whole new install.

last_session.ini is attached.


Fixed this. Re-enabled my services, and presto.

New problem though. Cannot find my network drive anymore. My D-Link DNS-323 shows up in the network map, but not as an accessible volume the way it used to. Crrrrraaaaaap. Hope someone checks back here soon.

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why this thread died? did everyone quit trying? I'm at the end of minimizing, just have to find a System component that is crashing mmc.exe when trying to launch services.msc or msconfig.exe

EDIT: it was MDAC, I got the installation .iso down to 1744MB, though I could remove a few more components, don't think I could go under 1700MB though

Edited by marauder16, 10 February 2009 - 05:32 AM.

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Someone can upload a LAST SESSION.INI working in 7022?

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Considering 7022 was an internal build, NO no-one will post an .ini for you.

That would be assisting with warez...

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Okeeyy, I accept PMS :D

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sorry, wrong topic

Edited by Guillaume, 09 March 2009 - 03:22 AM.


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New problem though. Cannot find my network drive anymore. My D-Link DNS-323 shows up in the network map, but not as an accessible volume the way it used to. Crrrrraaaaaap. Hope someone checks back here soon.

Did you ever find a solution for this? I just installed Windows 7 RC1 64-bit and I am experiencing the same behavior with my DNS-323. I can see it in the list of network devices, but I can't list its shares or map a drive to any. :no:

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Updated INI above. If you guys have problems after installation, I suggest recreating a new ISO with removing only the largest items such as Media Center, Tablet PC, Natural Language and ALL languages make up most of the reduction.

Edited by darklocust, 19 May 2009 - 05:16 PM.


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Is this topic still discussing Windows 7 Beta?

Edited by Jeronimo, 19 May 2009 - 11:19 PM.





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