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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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If you're not at least a bit technical, it's highly unlikely you will succeed

in unbricking the drive yourself :no:

Some people offer their help here, maybe there's someone in your neighbourhood

that is willing to help (for something like a bottle of wine perhaps) ;)

Just tell where you're from; maybe we can work something out?

The drive first needs to be unbricked before anything can be salvaged from it;

in fact the drive isn't even really defective, its just the firmware (that's

the software inside the drive) that's hanging, similar to a program on your PC

that's freezing, which is why the drive isn't recognized by your PC anymore.

If you do know someone with a little knowlegde of electronics, it can indeed

be done with a (modified) interface like the Nokia CA-42 USB cable, so see your

friends and relatives and ask around, maybe you're lucky B)

List of things you'll need:

  • A friend or relative with at least a bit of DIY knowledge (preferably in electronics)
  • A computer with HyperTerminal (or similar)
  • A serial interface that outputs TTL levels (like a CA-42 USB cable)
  • A pair of cutting pliers and a way to connect the cut wires to the drive.
    (See some of the hints in this topic; even sticky tape *could* work, but is not recommended)
  • A SATA-power supply (can be taken from the "un-brick computer")
  • The first page of this thread :hello:

After that it's just:

  • Modifying the CA-42 interface (cut off the connector that originally
    went to the mobile phone) :)
  • Connecting the interface to your PC and installing the drivers
  • Insulating the drive's PCB from the drive's contacts
  • Connecting the interface to the diagnostics port of the drive
  • Applying power to the drive's PCB
  • Creating a terminal connection with HyperTerminal
  • Following the first instructions (press CTRL+Z, spin down the drive)
  • Removing insulation that separated the PCB from the drive's contacts
  • Following the rest of the instructions (spin drive up again and follow
    further directions).
  • Removing power supply from drive
  • Re-attaching the drive to the PC in the normal way
  • Starting PC and see if the drive is recognized again

If all went well you should:

  • Backup the (most important) files on the drive
  • Download, burn to CD and run SeaTools for DOS (reboot from burned CD)
  • Test drive with a short and long DST-test (it most likely will give
    you some error code)
  • Create an RMA at Seagate to have the drive swapped using the reported errorcode

Greetz and good luck,

Peter.

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  • A serial interface that outputs TTL levels (like a CA-42 USB cable)

Small correction (again) :whistle::

  • A serial interface that outputs TTL levels (like a WORKING CA-42 USB cable) or, better a proper, documented, converter.

@WiNuWiNu

The easiest (as it is complete and well detailed) tutorial is this one:

http://www.mapleleafmountain.com/seagatebrick.html

with pictures AND links to a "good brand" adapter, please note that there are tens of these that are good, including a number (BUT NOT ALL) Nokia cables, simply review the present thread, a lot of people have posted where they found the converter they successfully used.

Depending on what computer(s) you have available you may want to go for either a RS-232 serial to TTL or to a USB to TTL converter.

jaclaz

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See this page!

i can get the drive to spindown F3 2>z spin down complete elapsed time 0.140 msecsbut get error 1009 DETSEC 00006008 spin error elapsed time 1min 57sec r/w status 2 r/w error 8415

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F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete

Elapsed Time 0.140 msecs

F3 2>U

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008

Spin Error

Elapsed Time 1 mins 57 secs

R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180

F3 2>

0180 please help or advise thanks

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See this page!

Well, NO.:unsure:

Generally, it is NOT adviced to use "nail thinner" as it could adversely affect the plastic parts of the connectors/PCB, as it usually contains trichloroethane, if using anything like it or acetone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone

be very careful NOT to use it on plastic parts.

To clean contacts use isopropil alcohol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol

or a dedicated electric contact cleaner.

A very good way to clean gold plated contacts is to use an abrasive rubber, such as (now really difficult to find) typewriter erasers.

jaclaz

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Ok...So, I have this problem, just found this thread, I've read several different versions of the instructions, even the ones on the google page.

BUT, my sata power cable I think for the harddrive? all the sections are black, and there's only four wires, whereas the ones pictured have six I believe with easily distinguishable colors.

I also don't have a serial port, so i'm assuming I'll have to use the nokia thingy for usb.

But the instructions seem like they're for advanced DIY'ers, I am far and away, an amateur. So is it possible to get the steps in laymens terms X:

Also perhaps a list of links to everything I would need to buy that I might not have? A retail list would be amazing.

Or perhaps there's a simpler way just to get the data off the drive? I care little for the drive it self, There's just a few folders I wish to save, maybe 10~20 gb's.

Any help is GREATLY appreciated, the 'bricking' of this drive has made the computer unusable[i'm saving up to build a whole new computer, didn't feel like spending the money on a replacement harddrive for this outdated one.

OH, also a list of programs I might need to do it? XP was on the harddrive so I'm not really sure what all I need.

see the post from VideoRipper. I would suggest that you find someone to help you as it seems that this is beyond your technical expertise. Where do you live? Maybe someone local can help. Have you read the first post in this thread?

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Thanks to Seagate's utter incompetence and willingness to disregard their customers, I find myself here after finding my ST3500320AS is now completely bricked.

I have studied this thread as thoroughly as I think I need to complete the fix, although with minimal electronics knowledge I have one main question. I am going to use the CA-42 cabling method as I have a few on hand that seem to be in working order, but my question comes in regards to the connection between the cable wires and the PCB. I have no soldering equipment so anything to do with that is not an option, are there some sort of jumpers I can purchase that will fit the PCB connection? What would the consequence be if the RX-TX wires accidently shorted during the terminal session?

If someone could provide close up pictures of their cable wire to PCB connections it would be much appreciated. Are there any hints or tricks without the need of a soldering iron? I don't want the connections to drop out midway through the terminal session or at any stage of the process to be honest. Cheers in advance for anyone who provide help :)

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What would the consequence be if the RX-TX wires accidently shorted during the terminal session?

If someone could provide close up pictures of their cable wire to PCB connections it would be much appreciated. Are there any hints or tricks without the need of a soldering iron? I don't want the connections to drop out midway through the terminal session or at any stage of the process to be honest. Cheers in advance for anyone who provide help :)

No problem if you short TX-RX, you will simply do a "loopback" test. :)

There are several detailed view of the connections in the thread, take your time on it and you will find them.

Best, without a soldering iron, is to use some copper wire non-flexible, typically telephone cables (not the ones from the phone to the wall outlet, the ones from the wall outlet onwards) or network cables are good.

You simply get a nail, slightly smaller in diameter than the HD pins and wrap a piexe of the naked cable around it in a TIGHT spiral.

You will see how you can easily slip it off the nail (or pin) if turning it in one direction and how steady it is if you try turning it in the other direction o simply try to pull it off.

Then you simply intertwine the other end of the piece of cable with the wire coming off the converter and wrap it in insulating tape.

The technique is called "wirewrap" and is was commonly used in telephone PBX's and the like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_wrap

If you want to create your own "poorman's" wire wrapper tool, all you need is a small metal tube (Hint: the needle of a big syringe - like those sometimes used to apply lubricants or compounds) with a cut notch on one side will do.

jaclaz

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Guys: im really desperated here...

I have done everything, followed all detailed instructions, triple checked everything....i got no error message (see attached image), but when i reboot my computer...bios is "locked" and cant find my Seagate...

what im i doing wrong here???

Please have a look at the pic attached and please tell me... i have so so many important docs on that hdd...

:((

Sebastianpost-283453-127083228591_thumb.jpg

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Hello,

I'm new here, this is a great thread but I have a problem, I have done exactly what has been said on here regarding unbricking my seagate drive, however when I come to switch off the power then switch back on, I cannot talkle to the drive via Hyperterminal, I can only talk if I unplug my drive a second time, then of course the commands don't work.

I'm using a computer with xp, a nokia CA-42 data cable so using the right stuff, don't know what is the matter.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Ian

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Hello,

I'm new here, this is a great thread but I have a problem, I have done exactly what has been said on here regarding unbricking my seagate drive, however when I come to switch off the power then switch back on, I cannot talkle to the drive via Hyperterminal, I can only talk if I unplug my drive a second time, then of course the commands don't work.

I'm using a computer with xp, a nokia CA-42 data cable so using the right stuff, don't know what is the matter.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Ian

You're the 2nd person in recent days to say the exact same thing. I have 2 questions.

1. How are you powering your sata hdd? Using your old computer?

2. Are you making sure that it is sharing the same ground?

When I did it, I was using a the desktop with a different hdd and the CA-42 cable. They were sharing the same ground.

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but when i reboot my computer...bios is "locked" and cant find my Seagate...

The HyperTerminal-log in the pic looks fine to me... :unsure:

But... It can be that the SATA-interface is defective as well, like I had.

After my Seagate bricked itself (connected to my mobo's VIA controler) and I tried

to connect another (working) drive instead, on that same controler, it wasn't seen

and the BIOS hanged (until a timeout) while searching for attached devices.

At first I thought only my controler was defective, but I soon found out that both

my drive as the controler were dead :blink:

Luckilly my Asus K8V SE Deluxe motherboard also has an extra promise SATA controler,

so I was able to use that one instead... :thumbup

You're the 2nd person in recent days to say the exact same thing. I have 2 questions.

Like Mundy says...

If you ever plan to experiment/work with harddrives, you should at least get yourself

an USB-to-(S)ATA adapter; these cheap devices are really they're money's worth :yes:

USB2SATA.jpg

When you use such an interface:

  • You don't have to reboot your computer everytime you want to test things out
  • The drive is powered externally, so you don't need to use the (short) power
    leads from your PC's power supply and you can apply power to the drive when you
    wish (you don't have to power down your PC).
    (You do have to make sure though, that the ground-signal of both drive as RS232-
    interface are connected if only the RS232 connection is used).
  • It's just a nifty little tool to quickly diagnose (S)ATA devices without opening
    (or possibly destructing) your computer

Greetz,

Peter.

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Hello,

I'm new here, this is a great thread but I have a problem, I have done exactly what has been said on here regarding unbricking my seagate drive, however when I come to switch off the power then switch back on, I cannot talkle to the drive via Hyperterminal, I can only talk if I unplug my drive a second time, then of course the commands don't work.

I'm using a computer with xp, a nokia CA-42 data cable so using the right stuff, don't know what is the matter.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Ian

You're the 2nd person in recent days to say the exact same thing. I have 2 questions.

1. How are you powering your sata hdd? Using your old computer?

2. Are you making sure that it is sharing the same ground?

When I did it, I was using a the desktop with a different hdd and the CA-42 cable. They were sharing the same ground.

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Hello,

I'm new here, this is a great thread but I have a problem, I have done exactly what has been said on here regarding unbricking my seagate drive, however when I come to switch off the power then switch back on, I cannot talkle to the drive via Hyperterminal, I can only talk if I unplug my drive a second time, then of course the commands don't work.

I'm using a computer with xp, a nokia CA-42 data cable so using the right stuff, don't know what is the matter.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Ian

You're the 2nd person in recent days to say the exact same thing. I have 2 questions.

1. How are you powering your sata hdd? Using your old computer?

2. Are you making sure that it is sharing the same ground?

When I did it, I was using a the desktop with a different hdd and the CA-42 cable. They were sharing the same ground.

Hi,

I am using a proper external power pack coupled upto the drive, a Nokia CA-42 cable to connect drive to the computer (a laptop) the three pins on the drive are all connected via the CA-42. I have also tried using a cmos/ttl serial port via a USB connection and that had the same trouble. I don't know what I'm dong wrong.

Regards

Ian

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Hi there,

Just received this USB-TTL adapter: Adapter Link

Unfortunately, when I connect this adapter to my computer the computer makes no indication that anything has been connected (no popup in the taskbar and the device manager doesn't refresh or display any new devices). I have tried this on two different computers and I've plugged the adapter in with and without VCC connected to GND.

Any suggestions?

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