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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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Hey, I have fixed a few busy HDD without any problems and recently I got a 0 LBA HDD. I tought it will be easier to fix but it looks like it is not. It has CC1H firmware and after I type the m0,2,2,,,,,22 command I get something like this:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 3% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004AA5, ErrCode 000

00080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 30 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 30 secs

Zone re-format was skipped.

And also it is the first time the Hyper Terminal shows this when I start it:

ASCII Diag mode

F3 T>

When I fixed the BSY HDDs the ASCII Diag mode line was not there

The problem is that after I get that final message and disconnect everything from the HDD it is still in 0 LBA. Why is that?

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heres a quick one chaps - in buying the RS232 to TTL converter do I specifically need 3.3v or will a 5v one do the job?

dont want to fry anything!

Corky

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heres a quick one chaps - in buying the RS232 to TTL converter do I specifically need 3.3v or will a 5v one do the job?

dont want to fry anything!

Corky

See Read-Me-First #10

Rule of the thumb:

there are NO reports of failures at 3.3V

there are a few, not fully confirmed, reports of 5V working

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So, i guess i'll order the USB to TTL converter.. the one mentioned here.. http://www.rhydolabz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=80&products_id=304

Please check if it suites the purpose.. any guide to use the same would be appreciated..

I suddenly had a sense of deja vu. Didn't I also recommended that exact same converter to you last year?

Yes you did :D.. thanks again for that.. somehow i didn't feel like using that one caus i didn't know a thing on how setup the entire thing.. now that i have done (or spoiled i'd say) it once and have a fair idea on how things flow its better suited now.. in any case the links u suggested helped me find the jumper wires..

And this is the same hard disc for which i posted last year.. its still bricked and the wait continues... :whistle:

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Hey, I have fixed a few busy HDD without any problems and recently I got a 0 LBA HDD. I tought it will be easier to fix but it looks like it is not. It has CC1H firmware and after I type the m0,2,2,,,,,22 command I get something like this:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 3% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004AA5, ErrCode 000

00080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 30 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 30 secs

Zone re-format was skipped.

And also it is the first time the Hyper Terminal shows this when I start it:

ASCII Diag mode

F3 T>

When I fixed the BSY HDDs the ASCII Diag mode line was not there

The problem is that after I get that final message and disconnect everything from the HDD it is still in 0 LBA. Why is that?

The ASCII Diag mode is not necessarily a problem. If you search the topic for it (top right of page), you will see a couple of people got that message and still succeeded in debricking their drives.

The replies from hyperterminal seemed to indicate it worked. Not sure why it didn't :unsure: Did you input the commands as is (without disconnecting the PCB)?

Maybe try it again with F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22 (enter).

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I connected the HDD with the DKU-5 cable and power cable started hyper terminal, entered the command and that's all I did. PCB was connected, everything should have worked, but it remains in 0 LBA. Kinda of anoying as I managed to fix like 5 HDD with the BSY error.And yes I tried both commands with 0 and without 0, same problem.

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ok well i've now received some of the things necessary to carry out the procedure...i seem to have a problem though with the Nokia Data Cable

basically i bought this one:

http://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/products/NOKIA-CA%252d42-USB-DATA-CABLE.html

..and after an hour of meticulously stripping back the blue insulating plastic and exposing the circuit board, i now have a question mark as to how the wires run.

there is a Red, an Orange and a Blue wire.

the Blue is soldered to 12 on the circuit board

the red is soldered to 4

the orange is soldered to 6

they then run through the board up to the USB connection end.

how can i tell which is RX/TX and Ground??

corky

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So no ideas why the HDD is still in 0 LBA for me?

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I had fixed my Seagate 500GB drive using Nokia cable and procedure here:

http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives-storage/457286-seagate-bricked-firmware-drive-fix-pics.html

Used a laptop with the Win XP Media Center Edition. Win XP did not find the driver for the cable (PL-2303 driver). I found driver here:

http://code.google.com/p/adconverter/downloads/detail?name=PL-2303%20Driver%20Installer.exe&can=2&q=

Then I did everything according to the first link and before typing

m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22

in HyperTerminal after powering down the drive for 60seconds and plugging it back and waiting for 20 sec when I was typing in HyperTerminal it did not respond. I had to close terminal and start a new connection (did not have to use the business card trick) this time, just set the connection and typed /1 and hit enter, here is the screen from the HyperTerminal:

F3 T>/1

F3 1>N1

F3 1>/

F3 T>m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 00, Max Certify Rewr

ite Retries = 0000

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secs

F3 T>

It finally worked!. Backing up my drive now! Thanks to everybody who had contributed to the solution of reviving the Seagate drives!

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@stevepud

There are no reports of 7200.11's bricking with updated firmware.

The 7200.10 bricking should be the same (and the reports of them bricking with any firmware are also few and far between). In other words if you update the firmware AND have a backup (which you should have anyway for ANY drive), you should be safe :)

Well, I have an update for you....

I got ALL my data back, including some data I had previously deleted from the NAS!!!!

My guy told me that BOTH drive spindles had seized. He said he only knows of 2 reasons why that may happen...

1. Impact while the drives are spinning

2. Overheating.

I can 100% guarantee they never suffered any impact.

SO, whilst my issue IS NOT with the BSY fault on an 7200.11 drive, I would advise anyone to seriously consider some extra cooling if you have one of these NAS units...

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The cooling fan is woefully undersized, and the air vents at the front are just slots about 15mm x 1mm, and only 3 of them.

If you have one of those, you CAN run it with the side panels off. I would certainly add another fan too, to push air between the drives.

So, all in all, by not having a proper backup, my little experience has cost me...

£130 NAS (first one)

£000 (2 x 500gb drives) they were freebies

£404 data recovery

£120 Netgear ReadyNAS

£100 2 x 1Tb Samsung Spinpoint Drives

I am still working on a backup regime, but expect to need another drive to sit in the PC, to backup the NAS to,

£50 1Tb Samsung Spinpoint

And possibly another one, to have as a montly offsite backup

£50 1tb Samsung...

Grand Total £854

Oh, plus £20 for 2 cables I didnt need

Moral of the story.... BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!!!

Finally, a massive THANK YOU, to Bloubul and Jaclaz for trying to help me.

Cheers

Steve

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Moral of the story.... BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP!!!

Yes, Yes and Yes!!!. :yes::yes: :yes: That is also the moral of the last paragraph in the never-read fifth point of the Read-Me-First. ;)

Finally, a massive THANK YOU, to Bluebul and Jaclaz for trying to help me.

You are welcome. :) Glad you managed to get your data back :thumbup

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ok well i took advantage here of a local data recovery companys promise to diagnose my HDD's problem for free, and heres thier response

It would appear that your drive has entered a “locked” mode and therefore inaccessible, clicking continuously.

The locking is usually caused by media issues (bad sectors) and the firmware then “locks” to prevent further damage, it could also be down to corrupt smart or defect list(s).

This is not the same thing as the publicised “firmware bug” which affected drives of FW version SD15, DE12 and MX15 (yours is SD33), where the drive spins up and sounds normal (yours clicks).

The price for recovery of this drive would be £249 + VAT which would include a USB hard drive with your data on, and shipping of the data drive.

Of course, if we are unsuccessful there would be no charge.

so what do you guys think, ask for it back without this recovery....and carry out the BSY error fix...or is it really sounding like thier advice is the only way out?

Corky

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OK my drive died quite a long time ago and wrote it off but after a while decided to see if it worked after a few system updates and still broken. I searched the net for a bit then came across this site and decided to do the fix(mine was stuck in the BSY state). All my parts arrived today built the rig and followed the guide and it now works. Thank you guys for your hard work and very easy to follow guides by all the people.

Firmware was also upgraded without a problem my previous was LC15 (didnt see this as listed as a problem version) now running on the latest.

Many thanks again jamie

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