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The Solution for Seagate 7200.11 HDDs

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ok guys ive performed the fix as per listed here and now the drive is spinning more normally than before...

it loaded the drivers and said it was installed and the device was working properly

still no in My COmputer though...

however although its telling me in disk management that it is 'unknown' and 'Not initialized' this is strange as its obviously not a new disk...it ghas my data on it. is it ok to go ahead and initialize? it says something of partioning which worries me that it might overwrite my data or am i being a jack a** worrying there?!

Normally after the fix, it is exactly as it was before it bricked with all the data and partitions like before . Did you get something like this:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 10% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004339, ErrCode 00000080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

Is it seen in BIOS now. and if it is, as what size?

How are you connecting to your computer now - still as an internal hdd via SATA or as an external USB? :unsure:

And NO, do not partition or overwrite anything now you are right to worry about that, let's first try to find out what is wrong.

no its not being seen at all in BIOS, and its connected as a internal HDD.

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no its not being seen at all in BIOS, and its connected as a internal HDD.

That means the unbricking was unsuccessful :no:

Did you get something like this during the unbricking:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 10% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004339, ErrCode 00000080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

What exactly did you do to unbrick it?

Were there any strange error messages?

Do you have a log file of your HyperTerminal session?

Maybe repeat the whole procedure carefully again and save the log file.

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no its not being seen at all in BIOS, and its connected as a internal HDD.

That means the unbricking was unsuccessful :no:

Did you get something like this during the unbricking:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 10% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004339, ErrCode 00000080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

What exactly did you do to unbrick it?

Were there any strange error messages?

Do you have a log file of your HyperTerminal session?

Maybe repeat the whole procedure carefully again and save the log file.

well, the drive was sent to a data recovery for a free examination....upon its return i have noticed that the firmware has been changed....this has meant as i put before that the behavious of the drive has changed a bit...does changing the firmware though mess the data?? why would they do that staright away??

i just didnt go with thier qoute to carry out the recovery as they wanted £300.

i figured could attempt the fix,

however, i have the right cables im assuming...the actual HDD wasn't powering up at all during the first part (the hyperterminal part)

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Ok, the drives are 100%. :w00t::thumbup

I didn't loss anything, it went back to it were before BSY error (and I almost had a heart attack!).

This is a direct guide for BSY error, for details and more, check the 1st msg on this topic.

I received the stuff at 14:30h today as you can see here:

fix01.jpg

The one circled in red isn't necessary at all. In fact, is so tiny to connect those pins on Seagate, I was forced to give up on those plastics.

Here is the kit fully assembled it took me 20min, mounting those cables is really a pain:

fix02.jpg

Another angle:

fix03.jpg

With HDD connected (note I giving up on plastic connectores [circled in red on 1st photo):

fix04.jpg

The whole stuff complete to fire up:

fix05.jpg

And on this photo (above) is the TRICK here, see that little paper card (CR2032) ?

Yes! Just unscrew those around, and put a paper card or something to isolate the area (is the spin motor) like plastic, don't use anything that is an electric-conductor, after that you can turn ON everything.

You can work with just 1 screw, like on this photo (square in red):

fix06.jpg

On terminal you'll see nothing, just press CTRL+Z. And you'll get F3 T> prompt.

With PCB disconnected from HDA with a paper card (or similar), you'll see:

On terminal press CTRL+Z:

F3 T>

F3 T>/2

F3 2>Z

Spin Down Complete

Elapsed Time 0.147 msecs

F3 2>

Wait 5sec and remove the paper card, this will connect the PCB to HDA (spin motor), but since is in Spin Down state (from cmd), you'll feel nothing.

Now screw just enough to make a good contact between PCB and HDA (be real careful here, don't drop the screw, just be calm, relax!).

Then press CTRL+Z again:

F3 2>U

Spin Up Complete

Elapsed Time 7.457 secs (if you get this msg you did everything fine until here)

F3 2>/1

F3 1>N1

F3 1>/T

F3 T> <<< At this step you'll need to POWER OFF your HD for 10sec, and then POWER ON again. By power off, remove the SATA power (not PCB!).

When done, press CTRL+Z.

F3 T>

F3 T>i4,1,22

F3 T>

F3 T>m0,2,2,,,,,22 <<< This command takes a little over a minute to complete!

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 14, Max Certify Rewrite Retries = 00C8

User Partition Format 5% complete, Zone 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004339, ErrCode 00000080, Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 05 secs

F3 T>

You did it! Congratulations! :ph34r:

Just turn off everything, and put your HDD on your lovely PC. :thumbup

Keep in mind TX and RX from Seagate are exactly like that, but on Seagate side.

Connect it this way:

PC (TX) > RX on Seagate

PC (RX) > TX on Seagate

The wires was inverted to me and I didn't get nothing, so I just reverted and finally got a terminal answer.

Gradius

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As far as i know...i have all of the cables as Gradius instructed...but my problem is actually powering up the HDD....although i dont have the little battery in the pictures here.....just realised.... is there a way around not using the battery?

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As far as i know...i have all of the cables as Gradius instructed...but my problem is actually powering up the HDD....although i dont have the little battery in the pictures here.....just realised.... is there a way around not using the battery?

<sigh> I thought you already did the procedure :no:

Let us start at the very beginning. Did you do a loopback test? See FGA no. 3 and 4. Just for good measure, you can also read the rest of the FGA as well as the Read-Me-First as you obviously missed quite a few important parts (#11 deals with powering the converter). Then also read the guide by CarterinCanada a few times. Next time you report that you did the fix, make sure you followed that guide and got the expected responses. I am really flabbergasted that you actually reported a fix before and now come with these questions :o:no:

PS. and next time you quote a post, don't quote the whole post (especially if it is a long post), but only the relevant parts.

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i figured could attempt the fix,

however, i have the right cables im assuming...the actual HDD wasn't powering up at all during the first part (the hyperterminal part)

Missed this post..

Did you plug in the SATA power?

I am assuming you did get a response in Hyperterminal (which you would not if no power was connected), what happened when you typed Z (enter) to spin down the drive and U (enter) to spin up the drive?.

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As far as i know...i have all of the cables as Gradius instructed...but my problem is actually powering up the HDD....although i dont have the little battery in the pictures here.....just realised.... is there a way around not using the battery?

<sigh> I thought you already did the procedure :no:

Let us start at the very beginning. Did you do a loopback test? See FGA no. 3 and 4. Just for good measure, you can also read the rest of the FGA as well as the Read-Me-First as you obviously missed quite a few important parts (#11 deals with powering the converter). Then also read the guide by CarterinCanada a few times. Next time you report that you did the fix, make sure you followed that guide and got the expected responses. I am really flabbergasted that you actually reported a fix before and now come with these questions :o:no:

PS. and next time you quote a post, don't quote the whole post (especially if it is a long post), but only the relevant parts.

yeah my bad, after a very sleepless night we're attempting this today again, i'd also like to add that during the free examination by the data recovery co. they actually did change the firmware ......has been changed to ZZ7L ... i found this out using Seatools...where for the record the drive has also failed the SMART test.

will be posting later today the latest,

thanks bloubal

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yeah my bad, after a very sleepless night we're attempting this today again, i'd also like to add that during the free examination by the data recovery co. they actually did change the firmware ......has been changed to ZZ7L ... i found this out using Seatools...where for the record the drive has also failed the SMART test.

will be posting later today the latest,

OK, let me just understand exactly what you did as the reports are very conflicting...


  • 1. Did you do a loopback test?
    2. Did you get a response in Hyperterminal when you issued commands?

If the response to these questions are "YES", then your converter is powered and your hdd as well and you do not need to worry about that. If not, we have to look for the problem.

Funny firmware version is not a major issue and can be flashed to SD1A/B after the fix.

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128807&view=findpost&p=892154

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yeah my bad, after a very sleepless night we're attempting this today again, i'd also like to add that during the free examination by the data recovery co. they actually did change the firmware ......has been changed to ZZ7L ... i found this out using Seatools...where for the record the drive has also failed the SMART test.

will be posting later today the latest,

OK, let me just understand exactly what you did as the reports are very conflicting...


  • 1. Did you do a loopback test?
    2. Did you get a response in Hyperterminal when you issued commands?

If the response to these questions are "YES", then your converter is powered and your hdd as well and you do not need to worry about that. If not, we have to look for the problem.

Funny firmware version is not a major issue and can be flashed to SD1A/B after the fix.

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=128807&view=findpost&p=892154

the latest strange development is that its showing no firware revision in seatools now..... the ZZ7L has disappeared?? not allowing any tests either!!

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the latest strange development is that its showing no firware revision in seatools now..... the ZZ7L has disappeared?? not allowing any tests either!!

First tell us exactly what you committed with your hdd during the attempted fix. The more detailed info you give, the better the chance that we can understand what went wrong.

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the latest strange development is that its showing no firware revision in seatools now..... the ZZ7L has disappeared?? not allowing any tests either!!

First tell us exactly what you committed with your hdd during the attempted fix. The more detailed info you give, the better the chance that we can understand what went wrong.

ok, here goes..

well having received the drive back from the 'free diagnosis' form the data recoverer, i connected the drive back to my PC as an internal and discovered that it spins up, although did not show in BIOS. it was identified through disk management but was 'unknown' and needed initializing.

now, my freind /neighbour is more technical than I am so we have all the cables and adaptor (inclusive of nokia modified cable) ready to attempt the BSY fix, or at least try and get something through hyperterminal as a first thing.

as a first attempt, we were not succesful in getting the HDD to power up, which could be a result in the fact it wasnt talking to our independant PSU???, which was being used from its red cable molex only, in orer to power it up...... he suggested we take a look again to see if the drive was appearing through BIOS, but on HIS pc instead of mine..... it was. however it was showing only a total of 7.87GB and of course the firmware as previously stated as ZZ7L.

This drive should be a total of 640GB and has near 423GB of my data on it!

(i'd like to point out again that the HDD had a firmware of SD33 Prior to its 'free diagnosis' ... they changed it during the week they had the drive...they also said that it WASN'T the BSY fix and that they quouted £300 to get my data back. )

here is what the recoverer has actually said:

'Your drive has multiple failures. It would appear that media issues have caused a firmware lockout, so one problem would have to be resolved before fixing the next one.'

during the session at my friends, we connected the drive using the RX and TX, and tried to check that we were getting the right connections. my freind set up hyperterminal and checked that this matched...however, the actual drive would not spin up.

My freind then suggested we just get the firmware update on the drive, and downloaded the 'Brinks' SD1 something or other firmware, however...he nearly messed his own PC up by this... so aborted.

I am now at home again and connected the drive to my PC, to have another look through Seatools...its firmware is now displaying nothing...blank. which makes me think did he actually wipe off the ZZ7L Firmware? is that possible?

looking forward to your feedback, i'll answer further questions as simply as i can.

Corky :unsure:

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Did you get any response from hyperterminal when you tried to fix it. Check the three links given earlier for help (FGA, Read-me-first, and guide by CarterinCanada).

Not sure what is exactly wrong, but you can't update the firmware on a bricked drive - you have to first do the whole procedure correctly before updating.

Just try everything again carefully. and report what goes wrong (or attach log file from hyperterminal)

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ok latest is I've just looked for my drive in AIDA64......Heres what comes up.

remember my drive is a 640GB Capacity drive.

hopefully this listed info helps a little more to understand my case.

ATA Device Properties

Model ID : ST3640323AS

Serial Number : 9VK0CE3H

Revision : ZZ7L

Device Type : SATA-II @ JMicron

Parameters : 16383 cylinders,16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector

LBA Sectors : 0

Buffer : Unknown

Multiple Sectors : 16

ECC Bytes : 4

Unformatted Capacity : 8064 MB

ATA Standard : ATA8-ACS

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OK corkyblue,

Just try for once to answer specific questions. Each time I ask you a question, you come back with an answer for a different question :ph34r:

I am still trying to understand how far you came with the fix and what happen there, what error commands you got if any and if you actually had communication with your hdd through hyperterminal.

Please, just FIRST answer those questions and then we can look at the rest.

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OK corkyblue,

Just try for once to answer specific questions. Each time I ask you a question, you come back with an answer for a different question :ph34r:

I am still trying to understand how far you came with the fix and what happen there, what error commands you got if any and if you actually had communication with your hdd through hyperterminal.

Please, just FIRST answer those questions and then we can look at the rest.

ok just spent several hours trying, but no comms between hdd and hyperterminal. checked the RX/TX leads, swapped and tried checked the loopback which seemed to report ok...but nothing.

tried covering the motor with piece of card, followed the instructions...but nothing doing...any suggestions?

for the record, i am 'seeig' the drive in disk management...but no data or any capacity.

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