[Tulex]

Hi BlouBul,

Thanks for response.. yes, I will do what you say.
If I get some error during testing, is it enough for RMA?

I have now UPS and new PSU Cooler Master 400W, everything will be just fine

Best Regards

[BlouBul]

Tulex, on 05 September 2010 - 05:37 AM, said:

If I get some error during testing, is it enough for RMA?

Yes, you will then be given a code which can be used for RMA.

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Test your Seagate drive with SeaTools. This software will test your drive to determine if it qualifies as a failed product. If so, SeaTools will issue a special code called a SeaTools Test Code.

http://www.seagate.c...000dd04090aRCRD

This post has been edited by BlouBul: 05 September 2010 - 10:11 AM

[jaclaz]

@Bloubul
@Tulex

Q: Guess WHY there is a read-me-first?
A: To avoid adding questions (and answers to them) to the present thread.

If you could take the time to READ it:
http://www.msfn.org/...-read-me-first/
and tell me WHAT new information did you get/provide in the last 4 posts, I would be happy to add it there.

jaclaz

[BlouBul]

jaclaz, on 05 September 2010 - 12:46 PM, said:

If you could take the time to READ it:
http://www.msfn.org/...-read-me-first/
and tell me WHAT new information did you get/provide in the last 4 posts, I would be happy to add it there.

jaclaz

Hi jaclaz,

The info is mostly there, I just tried to clarify some points that Tulex wasn't clear about.

1. "Is the new firmware good (there were problems with some versions that have killed drives)"
From the Read-me-First It is not clear that SD1A fixed the problem (although I did include the warning- there I could have referred to Read-me-First).

2. "If I get some error during testing, is it enough for RMA?"
that is implied but not clear (although the link to VideoRipper's post said he did it successfully)

Edit: Sorry, I see Carter's recommended guide covers firmware updates.

This post has been edited by BlouBul: 06 September 2010 - 12:58 AM

[Tulex]

Hi folks,
I apologize if I ask something that is already all been said, really .
When I had a problem with the disc, I first read your "Read me first" page and it was very helpful for me.
In any case, a BlouBul helped me very much, the answers was very helpful.
On many forums people says "Don't update, I destroyed my disk on that way. Firmware is not good".
On another says "Firmware was repaired and its good now".
I just had to know the current firmware state.
By the way, I did a "Long DTS" test and SeaTools found one error. I got the code for the reclamation, but SeaTool also offer to repair my disk.
Should I try to repair it, or no matter what, send it to the reclamation?
I have read what was written by a VideoRipper, but no one mentions the repair disk using the tool, only a reclamation.

[mgr700]

Hi, i have a question that someone already posted but anyone responded.
when the guide says power off/on the hd i have to turn off the pc or unplug the sata power conector directly?
i have to connect everything with the pc off and then turn on???

thanks

[BlouBul]

mgr700,

Read the recommended guide by Carter-in-Canada (link in Read-me first) http://www.msfn.org/...-read-me-first/

[Tulex]

Hi mgr700,

Unplug the SATA power connector directly from your Seagate drive, wait for a 10 sec. and connect it again.

[jaclaz]

Tulex, on 05 September 2010 - 06:13 PM, said:

Should I try to repair it, or no matter what, send it to the reclamation?
I have read what was written by a VideoRipper, but no one mentions the repair disk using the tool, only a reclamation.

This is because there are always choices. (decisions, decisions, always decisions... )

Now, let's try - as Mr. Hercule Poirot would have done, using our little grey cells.

You have two options:

• have your drive replaced by the guys who made it with a new or re-furbished one, for free
  
• use a lame program (coming from the same guys above) to attempt fixing this drive - that already failed and that you *somehow* managed to re-vive (temporarily) following the advice of a bunch of completely unqualified, perfect strangers on an internet forum, which solution was not good enough to avoid having that error

I'll try to use one of my carpenter's comparisons :
You have a plank, that due to humidity, curved itself and it's not good anymore to be used as your floor:

• You have the offer from the guy who sold it to you to replace it with another, perfectly straight one.
  
• Or you can use steam, vices, wedges, and what not to attempt straightening that plank.

Which one do you choose?

In any case, choose wisely.
http://www.imdb.com/...t0097576/quotes

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But choose wisely, for while the true Grail will bring you life, the false Grail will take it from you.

jaclaz

[ofer24]

Hi,
I just wanted to thank everyone who has worked hard to come up with this solution.
I must say that I am very disappointed with Seagate and that I don't think I'll buy any of their HD's any time soon.

Anyway, you guys saved my data, AND my HD with the hyperterminal solution. THANKS!
I also would like to contribute a little to the information...
Anyone trying this solution who owns a Nokia cable type DLR-3P, can also use it to do a partition regeneration.
The cable connects to the serial com port on one side and to a Nokia phone on the other side.
You must cut off the side that connects to the phone and expose the wires.

Wire you will be using:
RED - vcc (3.3v)
BLACK - Ground.
Grey - Rx
Green - Tx
(I may have mixed up the Rx and Tx I don't have the cable with me. I'll update the post when I take a look)

That's it. Now follow the instruction on this thread.
You can also search google for "seagatefix" to find an explanation with images.

Cheers.

[Tulex]

Hi jaclaz,


When you say it this way, everything is clear as day.
The only thing that worries me is that they can run this SeaTool repair instead of me and send my drive back as repaired.
And all it will take about one month, basically for nothing.
But as you say, everything is about decision.

Guys, you are save my data and my live (my wife has promised to kill me if I don't repair disk). One big THANKS.

Cheers.

[jaclaz]

Tulex, on 06 September 2010 - 03:46 AM, said:

(my wife has promised to kill me if I don't repair disk). One big THANKS.

Right idea , wrong reason.

You should have been killed for NOT BACKING UP , not for (unfortunately) failing to revive the disk.

The effect would be the same, as far as you are concerned , but in the first case if the jury were made of technicians your wife would have been declared NOT GUILTY .

Anyway, I am happy one more (or maybe two counting your wife) happy bunnies are added in the basket :
http://www.msfn.org/...ic=128727&st=10

jaclaz

[colin69]

Followed what you did and got my Boss hard drive up and running with all his data on so backit up and firmwared it.Hes a happy man.The only problem i had was colour code i had to use Blue for (green) and Black for (GND).Thank you so munch

[mgr700]

Thanks a lot!!!!!
I recovered all my data.

I had an error when spinning up the first and started to click, but in the second time all was ok.

Now im doing a backup to update the firmware.


Thanks!!!!!! (again )

[Tulex]

Congratulation, well done
Before firmware updating, test your drive with SeaTool (Short and Long test).
If everything is OK then you can consider updating.

Cheers

[bruintje1]

Hi, one month ago i restored a Seagate 7200.11 successful but with one remark.
In the manual is vaguely mentioned how to connect the grounding wires.
In my case i connected them to one point, so they had the same level and then i got my commands properly in the hyper terminal.
Before that i always had scrambled text.

At this very moment i have got a new Seagate drive but this one is from type Barracuda ES.2.
So far i can find on the internet, this drive belongs to the same group of disks as the 7200.11 ,with similar errors.
The drive was connected as a raid 0 and one drive shows himself with +- 750GB, the other was invisible.

My question is, if i can restore this drive the same way as the 7200.11 (with exactly the same commands)to recover the data.
I mean, the part without upgrade the firmware.The upgrade i can do later if an upgrade is available.

If yes and the commands are different, can someone tell me the correct commands?
I have components already availlable to unlock the drive.

Thanks in advance

greats
bruno

This post has been edited by bruintje1: 11 September 2010 - 04:49 PM

[BlouBul]

bruintje1, on 11 September 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

At this very moment i have got a new Seagate drive but this one is from type Barracuda ES.2.
So far i can find on the internet, this drive belongs to the same group of disks as the 7200.11 ,with similar errors.
The drive was connected as a raid 0 and one drive shows himself with +- 750GB, the other was invisible.

My question is, if i can restore this drive the same way as the 7200.11 (with exactly the same commands)to recover the data.
I mean, the part without upgrade the firmware.The upgrade i can do later if an upgrade is available.

If yes and the commands are different, can someone tell me the correct commands?
I have components already availlable to unlock the drive.

Hi Bruintje1

This thread is for Seagate 7200.11 (which is actually quite easy to unbrick in comparison with the ES.2!)

For ES.2, you have to be a bit more determined and carefull. See This thread for more info.

[jaclaz]

bruintje1, on 11 September 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

In the manual is vaguely mentioned how to connect the grounding wires.

WHICH manual?

bruintje1, on 11 September 2010 - 04:10 PM, said:

In my case i connected them to one point, so they had the same level and then i got my commands properly in the hyper terminal.
Before that i always had scrambled text.

I would have thought that point #7 of the READ-ME-FIRST:
http://www.msfn.org/...howtopic=143880

is clear enough.

jaclaz

[bruintje1]

Hi Jaclaz,

With "manual" i meanted "read this first".

No, it is (was) not very clear written. It is higly suggested to put ground together. A big part of the forum is full of questions about scrambled text, terminals that don't work, enz. because that part is not written clear.
For me, the sollution came on page 154, where this question about ground was asked again and someone told that most questions came from settings with different grounding. Normal conclusion would be to but ground together and that worked for me.

As i told before, my unbricking was one month ago and maybe the "read me first" is modified since then, i don't kwnow.

But I do not want to be ungrateful and want to thank everyone who made this unbricking possible.

Greets
Bruno

[jaclaz]

bruintje1, on 12 September 2010 - 04:15 PM, said:

No, it is (was) not very clear written. It is higly suggested to put ground together. A big part of the forum is full of questions about scrambled text, terminals that don't work, enz. because that part is not written clear.
For me, the sollution came on page 154, where this question about ground was asked again and someone told that most questions came from settings with different grounding. Normal conclusion would be to but ground together and that worked for me.

Well, then I really don't get it.

Are you saying that you actually read the suggestions, ignored them, and then, in order to have the stoopid link working you had to actually follow them?

Point #7 was written BECAUSE of the problems inexperienced people had WITHOUT grounding and says in a nutshell "ALWAYS ground EVERYTHING together".

Since Snakebyte2 thought the original wording (which is the one on page 154):
http://www.msfn.org/.../page__st__3060
was not clear enough I asked him to provide some suggestions to make it more clear (current text on the READ-ME-FIRST).

As well you are welcome to PM me suggesting any possible bettering to the scope of making that part more clear.

jaclaz