[anxxous]

Ok guys i solved the problem with the garbage characters.

After CTRL+z there comes:

F3 T>

Then i used this command:

m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22

After that i was realy happy because of this:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 00, Max Certify Rewr
ite Retries = 0000

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secs

F3 T>

But if i connect the HDD now to the PC the PC will not boot. There is nothing just a black monitor.
If i disconnect the HDD from the PC the PC is booting and i see the BIOS POST.

What's wrong here?

[pichi]

Shooman, on Mar 6 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

ARRGGHHH!!!
This is frustrating.
This is my 4th cable now. This time a Nokia-based Data cable.
Plug it in - Windows detects a USB to serial cable - great. Awesome. Just what I'm needing.
I find the TX and RX wires. Both register 3v when tested w/ a multimeter.
This cable has two grounds. One a GND for the charger, and the other GND for the Data. No clue which one I should use. (Have tried both).

Using a straight sata power cable from the PSU. Paper on the head trick (not motor).
I connect the TX wire onto the RX on HDD, and RX onto the TX HDD. GND wire goes to GND on HDD.
I turn on, wait for HDD to stop spinning. Open up Hyperterminal. Adjust baud rate settings as listed.
CTRL+Z. Nothing. No response from Keyboard.

For the love of God can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here???

first: do loopback test of the cable.
38400, 8, N, 1, None flow control
GND: Use pin3 of jumper connector, near TX.

[garsh]

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

What's wrong here?

It looks like you skipped several steps. Did you do everything described here?

[pichi]

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 04:33 PM, said:

Ok guys i solved the problem with the garbage characters.

After CTRL+z there comes:

F3 T>

Then i used this command:

m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22

After that i was realy happy because of this:

Max Wr Retries = 00, Max Rd Retries = 00, Max ECC T-Level = 00, Max Certify Rewr
ite Retries = 0000

User Partition Format Successful - Elapsed Time 0 mins 00 secs

F3 T>

But if i connect the HDD now to the PC the PC will not boot. There is nothing just a black monitor.
If i disconnect the HDD from the PC the PC is booting and i see the BIOS POST.

What's wrong here?

Do you had BSY problem or LBA0 0GB problem?
If you had BSY problem you haven`t repaired the hdd. You need unmount the PCB, spin down, etc

[anxxous]

garsh, on Mar 6 2009, 04:40 PM, said:

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

What's wrong here?

It looks like you skipped several steps. Did you do everything described here?

I only got the 0LBA Error, not BSY.
Maybe there are both errors on the hdd and i should use the commands for BSY too?

[anxx]

pichi, on Mar 5 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

anxx, on Mar 6 2009, 01:37 AM, said:

pichi, on Mar 5 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

anxx, on Mar 5 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

...
I will buy the rs232 so... but I find some model reporting 3V and other 5V.. I think 3.3V x sqrt(2) =~ 5V so it's the same... true?

The hdd use 3.3V logic levels. I have used 3.3V adapter and it works.
5V -> MAX232, HIN232, ST232, ADM232, etc
3V -> MAX3232

You use the the MAX3232? It's correct?

It's correct, I use MAX3232 (valid for 3V and 5V)

Thank to all you...
Iwill try to repair my disk when i receive my RS232-TTL...
But I can't understand why changing my PCB with another of same hard disk but with different P/N and FW it can't work...
The PCB is the same model... i have only this bug in my mind... if the PCB switching don't work, maybe the G-list and the format need differents parameter... it's correct my idea?

[pichi]

anxx, on Mar 6 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

...
But I can't understand why changing my PCB with another of same hard disk but with different P/N and FW it can't work...
The PCB is the same model... i have only this bug in my mind... if the PCB switching don't work, maybe the G-list and the format need differents parameter... it's correct my idea?

Have differents P-List (primary list), sectors reallocation tables, etc

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 04:47 PM, said:

garsh, on Mar 6 2009, 04:40 PM, said:

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

What's wrong here?

It looks like you skipped several steps. Did you do everything described here?

I only got the 0LBA Error, not BSY.
Maybe there are both errors on the hdd and i should use the commands for BSY too?

I only had got the 0LBA Error, not BSY. But I did all the steps and it work.

This post has been edited by puntoMX: 07 March 2009 - 10:18 PM

[anxxous]

pichi, on Mar 6 2009, 05:01 PM, said:

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 04:47 PM, said:

garsh, on Mar 6 2009, 04:40 PM, said:

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 10:33 AM, said:

What's wrong here?

It looks like you skipped several steps. Did you do everything described here?

I only got the 0LBA Error, not BSY.
Maybe there are both errors on the hdd and i should use the commands for BSY too?

I only had got the 0LBA Error, not BSY. But I did all the steps and it work.

Ok i will try all the steps.

[Munik]

Thanks alot Graudius and Alex! I combined your guides and it worked perfectly!

[anxxous]

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 53.959 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180
F3 2>

[mserran1]

Hi all,

I want to give you a warm Thank You for this solution to a nasty problem, all the people bulletproofing the Lituanian solution for us all, Gradius2 who put it all toguether, and Pichi who leaded the Spanish board for some time.

I want to share my experience, maybe it is of some use for some other people.

First of all, the cable I used to connect to the PCB has been a TTL-232R-3V3-WE USB to Serial converter from FTDI Chip technologies. It provides you all the needed connections (TX, RX and GND), plus a 3.3V feeding for the TX line, so no need for additional batteries, just plug the cables without need for any soldering or funny electronic work. You can buy the cable from the company site, but I bought at an specialized retailer in Spain.

On connecting the wired ends to the pins in the PCB, I found a lot of problems, nothing I had was small enough to fit in the small space provided. Finally, I was able to get correct jumpers from a dead DVD player. Also, I connected 3 pins instead of just TX and RX, been the third one GND as suggested in the Spanish board. GND is the one next to TX.

On following the propoused process, I had two stupid mistakes:

1.- Screw fell on top of the PCB while mounting the PCB back. I guess it has been plain old luck avoiding the PCB to fry, so be careful when doing this, the screws are really small and I found them difficult to handle.

2.- I had the BUSY error (no BIOS recognicion), but was careless enough to execute the command for LBA 0 (m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22) instead of the expected one (m0,2,2,,,,,22). No obvious damage so far, but busy now backing up everything to DVDs.

In any case, HD is back up and running, and all data recovered, and my live a bit easier now, I would have lost all my Proyects and Customers data for the last three months otherwise...

[pichi]

anxxous, on Mar 6 2009, 06:46 PM, said:

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 53.959 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180
F3 2>

Have you unmounted the PCB? Or have you put papers on motor and/or heads contacts?

[Shooman]

pichi, on Mar 7 2009, 04:39 AM, said:

Shooman, on Mar 6 2009, 12:01 PM, said:

ARRGGHHH!!!
This is frustrating.
This is my 4th cable now. This time a Nokia-based Data cable.
Plug it in - Windows detects a USB to serial cable - great. Awesome. Just what I'm needing.
I find the TX and RX wires. Both register 3v when tested w/ a multimeter.
This cable has two grounds. One a GND for the charger, and the other GND for the Data. No clue which one I should use. (Have tried both).

Using a straight sata power cable from the PSU. Paper on the head trick (not motor).
I connect the TX wire onto the RX on HDD, and RX onto the TX HDD. GND wire goes to GND on HDD.
I turn on, wait for HDD to stop spinning. Open up Hyperterminal. Adjust baud rate settings as listed.
CTRL+Z. Nothing. No response from Keyboard.

For the love of God can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here???

first: do loopback test of the cable.
38400, 8, N, 1, None flow control
GND: Use pin3 of jumper connector, near TX.

Can't do a loopback test. Have tried - but Hyperterminal has no response from keyboard.
All of those settings are correct. And I have GND on pin 3 of the HDD.

Have tried switching the TX and RX pins, but same results. I get no response in HT. I can't even punch in any characters. All that shows is a blinking cursor.

[Shooman]

Okay - so managed to acquire a cable and got this up and running in Hyperterminal.
In the last command, m0,2,2,0,0,0,0,22. How long should it take to come up with the Max WR Retries, etc etc message? It's been 25 minutes so far and nothing...

45 minutes - no response.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I JUST WANT MY DATA BACK!!!

This post has been edited by Shooman: 07 March 2009 - 12:04 AM

[iason]

pichi, on Mar 5 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

muskieratboi, on Mar 5 2009, 07:17 PM, said:

Seeing as this problem is starting to become more and more dominant with more people reporting the Spinup error, can we get a little more active help in that part of the development in this fix please? This seems like it may be a problem with the read head, so is there any way by firmware hacking to make the drive attempt to realign or reset the read head?

For find the solution:
FIRST: How has it ocurred?
Can you write your first procedure?
Have you unconnected the PCB completly or only use papers on heads and/or on motor contacts?

You can see all commands of your 7200.11 disc with this:
Ctrl+z
F3 T>/C
F3 C>Q
(List all commands of your hdd)

After C>Q
Led 000000CE FAddr 0028E24b

[Shooman]

This sucks.

After an hour and a half of it doing nothing - I decided to turn the power off.

So I retried everything, with success!!

However - now when booting into bios, it shows the HDD...but the size is 0MB!!!!

Holy mother of crap!

This is just p***ing me off....

[anxxous]

@ mrkimrkonja, WolfDie and others who have
the spinup error and your hdd make noises every 5? seconds
when you power on your drive and you got this error in the terminal:

Error 1009 DETSEC 00006008
Spin Error
Elapsed Time 53.959 secs
R/W Status 2 R/W Error 84150180

My drive have Bad Head.
I have spoken to aviko.

I will RMA my drive now data recovery costs to much for me.
And i've learned now to make backups every day.
At my 1st try to remove the 0LBA the drive works fine but suddenly there was this f***ing error and
this noise every 5 seconds. This is so frustrating. Thanks a lot seagate, thanks a lot.

[latpboe]

Hello to Everyone,

First I want to thank all those who share their investigations and results.

I built my inteface according to this schematic:
http://www.llamma.com/xbox/download/ST3100...l%20english.pdf

It worked perfectly but ... the driver still refuses to be detected by BIOS.

The problem with my Seagate 7200.11 500GB HDD started about a month ago, sometimes, while using the computer a low click sound came from the hdd (almost unaudible) and it stopped working. As it was the OS computer the whole system just hunged in seconds. If I tried to press reset bios just didn't detect the hdd, I had to turn power off and on again in order to get the hdd to be detected.
Two days ago it just completely died, the hdd is no longer detected by bios.

I tried the BSY recovery method and everything went smooth but the hdd still behaves the same way.

I cannot understand what is going on, it seems to me clear that it is the BSY problem but I can't get rid of it. If I boot from the firmware update cd and once it is loaded I power up the hdd it detects it (after I hear the motor running), but after a couple of seconds it stops and obviously I cannot flash the new firmware.

I'm mad at me for not being able to recover it, any help would be very much welcomed.

Cheers.

[Shooman]

Well - after 2 painful weeks, my data is back!

You don't know how happy I am....

After a stressful last 2 hours, where I thought I'd lost my data forever - I managed to recover the HDD.

As listed above, the last proceedure was taking far far too long. So I switched the PSU off (thus cutting power to the HDD).
Plugged it into my computer, and booted the sucker up.
BIOS detected the HDD, but was registering it as 0MB.
So I thought "Son of a b***h!" and panicked thinking I'd fraked the thing!
So out of desperation, I tried it again! (Using the Aviko method..which I'd just done). Only this time I used the extra set of instructions.
Everything went fine. Everything was as per normal.
I plugged it into the computer....still no go. Registered the drive as 0MB.
So I though "Frak it", and tried the 0LBA method. This went fine as well.
Plugged it into the HDD...but AARRRGHHHH!!! BIOS didn't even detect the drive this time.
Wonderful.
So I thought I'd try the Graduis method. But this didn't work and gave me LED errors when I'd reconnect the motorhead. By this stage I thought I'd really REALLY screwed my HDD.
I was now at my wits end. I'm not a religious man, far from it, I've never been to church. But I can tell you I put my hands together while sitting in my seat and prayed to the almighty God for mercy.
I then, in one last ditch attempt tried the Aviko method once more.
All went fine (like I'd seen before).

Plugged it into my computer. Went into BIOS. LOW AND BEHOLD, there she was!!!!

Quickly updated the firmware, and then waited...waited.....And there was the Windows XP loading screen!!!!
Never have I seen such a magnificent loading screen in all my life!!

I seriously put my face in my hands and began to sob.

And then quickly backed all my data up onto my new awaiting drive....

I still don't know about any almighty being...but I may have to make a trip somewhere this Sunday....

This could also be a message to say that Seagate are the devil. Woe any unfortunate soul who eat from their poisoned apple. They will never, I say NEVER, get a tiny SLIVER of my money - ever again (In fact, I work at an electronics store that sells various Seagate products - for which I shall never recommend to ANY customer)! I have spent THREE WEEKS trying to research and fix this problem using various cables. All of which have cost me time and money. Both of which could have been spent on my loved ones, and my assignments.
Shame on you Seagate. Shame on you for everyone's lost time, money and many hours spent worrying!

This post has been edited by Shooman: 07 March 2009 - 06:06 AM

[DannyEl]

Anyone has any idea why replacing the PCB doesn't work in this case? I purchased 4 x 1TB drives and only one had problems (not recognized anywhere). While I am waiting for the connector I ordered I thought about this second option (replacing the PCB) but it seems that it doesn't work. The "good" PCB is from a disk with exactly the same model number and firmware.

This post has been edited by DannyEl: 07 March 2009 - 10:37 AM