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Fix Windows 7 Sidebar With UAC Off

#1 User is offline   Rudi1 

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 03:40 PM

Thanx to Chris123NT for this nice one guide! Now you don't need to replace any file,just run the reg file and the gadgets will work even if UAC is off.
I'am made this reg file from Chris123NT guide and work like a sharm.

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This post has been edited by Rudi1: 21 January 2009 - 01:11 AM



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Posted 19 January 2009 - 04:27 PM

Thanks mate for the reg fix. I always prefer UAC completely off.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:14 PM

turning UAC off is stupid :angel

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 05:27 PM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on Jan 19 2009, 11:14 PM, said:

turning UAC off is stupid :angel

I dont think so, and i wonder what makes you say this.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 06:17 PM

I've not been a fan of disabling it under Win7, although I understood Vista somewhat. It's a relatively good security mechanism, with no real detractions on Win7.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:21 PM

This little trick saved me a major pain. You see, I use Everest Ultimate everyday. I have it set to launch on system startup. Now, I would not need to use this trick at all if the OnScreenDisplay worked in windows7. It does not, which leaves me the only option of using the Everest sidebar gadget. To use that, I must turn on UAC. That may seem like nothing at all to do, but, Everest uses low-lever sensor readings, and these require administrator privileges. That means even though I have the shortcut AND the .exe set with administrator privileges and full access, a propmt is still required to launch the application, because of the "allow this program to make system changes". That means, no auto launch on boot up for Everest. With this fix, I am able to use the closest thing to the OSD and not need UAC on.

Also, turning off UAC does prevent elevated token bugs.

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Posted 19 January 2009 - 09:46 PM

Well, that may be, but that's a good reason (but a software design problem). UAC in general keeps the masses from doing stupid things, although in Vista it's too obtrusive. I've yet to disable it in Win7, which I guess is a win considering I am a power user like almost everyone else here, and it's not bothered me yet.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 12:35 AM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on Jan 19 2009, 05:14 PM, said:

turning UAC off is stupid :angel


I really don' know why you are so negative
with reply to all my post.If you don't like it ,please ignore it.
I'am remove the reg file from my first post,perhaps
you will feel better now.

This post has been edited by Rudi1: 20 January 2009 - 01:12 AM


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  Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:27 AM

View Postshahed26, on Jan 20 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

I dont think so, and i wonder what makes you say this.


because you don't know what NT security is and how it works. Let me make a guess, you switched from Win9x to XP? Right? And with XP you have full elevated rights and this IS Stupid! LUA is a fundamental idea in all *nix system for several years. There is no need to have elevated rights to read emails and browse the WWW. Try to start a application with needs elevated rights under Xp when you're not administrator and look at the RESULT. You'll get an Access Denied error message and under Vista/Win7 the UAC helps you to start applications in elevated rights :whistle:

MS made the Mistake with XP NOT with with Vista and the UAC.

Disabling ALWAYS means you don't understand what you are doing. You can use the taskscheduler to start application in elevated rights WITHOUT disabling the UAC and WITHOUT clicking the UAC prompt.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 12:28 PM

thx, was looking for this, i hate UAC

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:00 PM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on Jan 20 2009, 04:27 AM, said:

View Postshahed26, on Jan 20 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

I dont think so, and i wonder what makes you say this.



Disabling ALWAYS means you don't understand what you are doing.


I call BS on that. I disable UAC, AND I ALWAYS understand what I am doing.
UAC is completely useless to me. But then, I know how to make sure my system never gets a program that is malicious.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 03:31 PM

View PostMt.Dew, on Jan 20 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

I disable UAC, AND I ALWAYS understand what I am doing.
UAC is completely useless to me.


you don't understand NT security, that's all :rolleyes: For normal use you NEVER need elevated rights, sorry.

View PostMt.Dew, on Jan 20 2009, 10:00 PM, said:

But then, I know how to make sure my system never gets a program that is malicious.


sorry, you play Russian roulette and one day you'll get a malicious program. :whistle: People like must be force to use UAC, I never understood why MS let the user the choice to completely disable it :angry:

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:01 PM

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I never understood why MS let the user the choice to completely disable it


because if they don't then will be fail again,like in vista.I hate it too!I really don't like when I'am working with my computer to answer some stupid guestions like -are you shure..............

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:45 PM

View PostRudi1, on Jan 20 2009, 11:01 PM, said:

I really don't like .... some stupid guestions like -are you shure..............


this is nonsense. This never happens!

I tell you again. Do the same things (you do under Vista where you get the UAC prompt) under XP with a limited user account and look at the RESULT!

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 04:54 PM

View PostMagicAndre1981, on Jan 20 2009, 09:31 PM, said:

sorry, you play Russian roulette and one day you'll get a malicious program. :whistle: People like must be force to use UAC, I never understood why MS let the user the choice to completely disable it :angry:

I have been using vista since it released, and always had UAC disabled, ans still had no malicious crap on my system. and yes i agree with Rudi1, it makes you answer stupid questions like " are you sure" etc...
IMO UAC is a stupid MS security feature, and am glad win7 provides full control over UAC. If ms removed that UAC security crap from windows 7 and replaced it with something better, then maybe i would be more than happy to use the securty feature without disabling.

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:04 PM

I give it up. You're posting nonsense. Give me DETAILED example where the UAC dialog pops up when you do normal work (browse WWW, read emails, listen to music and so on)

You are not willing to understand and learn what NT security is. :thumbdown As I said several times before, DO THE SAME THINGS WITH A LIMITED USER UNDER XP AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE RESULT!

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:22 PM

OK here is a good reason to turn it off, if anybody wants to install stuff unattededly (silent switch installers) one needs to turn off UAC

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 05:46 PM

installing applications is a task where you mostly need elevated rights, so the UAC prompt is correct! As I said before, try do the same from a Limited User Account in XP!

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Posted 20 January 2009 - 06:01 PM

UAC isnt really necessary, if you have an administrator account and a user account then you wont run into any problems for normal stuff you use the user account and installing stuff you would use admin but no one really does this. the problem is more that the user created in the setup as an admin.

also if you create an admin account you expect to be able to do everything thats where uac becomes really annoying

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 01:09 AM

because of some request the fix is avalible again. :rolleyes:

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