[spacesurfer]

I do like vLite a lot but with Windows 7, we might be able to live without it.

You are able to remove certain components after installing (like ie8, movie maker, etc) - just be content with that!

[marauder16]

maybe if nuhi found another developer who would be willing to continue his project, as an associate or sth? so the development process would be under nuhi's supervision? just my .02

[hackder]

Kelsenellenelvian, on Mar 14 2009, 05:22 AM, said:

It's NOT sad we have no open source vLite\nLite...

We DO NOT need dozens of hacked up dangerous versions out there.

They are to powerfull and way to customized to let the general public\hackers have access to it.

Think of this - you get the "Latest and Greatest" vLite and after vLiting your system you install it, then all of a sudden your system goes online and starts routing porn, viruses and spam emails...

NOT AGREE!

We not really need open source, but we need a timely update!
I think only open source can solve the problem,
but this is just dreaming, as nuhi does not open it and i can't coding it...

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Something like this needs to be in a VERY controlled enviroment.

Too many people could easily make nefarious versions and sucker the common user without their know.

Leave a port open here....
Dial a open address...
Poof PC and data plus connection GONE.

It's already being done with one of the most infamous WAREZed copies of XP and Vista out there. I am barred from mentioning the name here (By common sense and forum rules)

This copy I mentioned actually sends the maker data and not only that he gets paid for the use of your pc... Ads, toolbars and soforth.

[bledd]

fully agree with Kel,

remember guys, nuhi worked solidly on nlite then vlite basically without a break

now he has a real job.



if everyone donated, then maybe he could just sit at home, churning out new versions without needing to work

ms seem to be edging towards more component removal, which could negate the need for a 'xlite' program

[cluberti]

Agreed - considering the add/remove components has morphed into a way to really remove/disable Windows components in Win7, and the fact that it has a command-line interface for it, it might be unnecessary. I know there'll be those who want to trim the size of the install down, but using it to "lighten" the install itself isn't all that necessary with Win7 anymore, you can do it with Win7 directly.

[kidmar]

One thing is manually uninstalling a part of win-xxx.
Totally another thing is doing that before installation is done.
It means
1. Smaller iso
2. faster installation
3. fore sure v/nlite allows more configurations/components removing that ms will ever do
4. You don't have to apply every change everytime you install windows. It saves you a lot of time
5. Drivers / software automatic installation
6. etc, etc.

Why shouldn't Vlite be needed anymore win win7???

[MPalmz]

kidmar, on Mar 23 2009, 10:09 AM, said:

One thing is manually uninstalling a part of win-xxx.
Totally another thing is doing that before installation is done.
It means
1. Smaller iso
2. faster installation
3. fore sure v/nlite allows more configurations/components removing that ms will ever do
4. You don't have to apply every change everytime you install windows. It saves you a lot of time
5. Drivers / software automatic installation
6. etc, etc.

Why shouldn't Vlite be needed anymore win win7???

Fully agree with all of these points. Especially #3. There will be several things that MS simply won't allow removal of unless you've got an 'x'-lite.

[cluberti]

Agreed, hence why I said:

cluberti, on Mar 23 2009, 12:35 PM, said:

I know there'll be those who want to trim the size of the install down...

But, again, <x>Lite wasn't designed initially to reduce the size of Windows - it was to remove components and make a way to slipstream things into the original install media. The fact that nuhi's tools were able to trim down the install size of Windows was a side-effect, but not the goal. It will be up to nuhi to decide whether he wants to open it up, continue with it himself, or let it die. All choices are his to make.

[EGOvoruhk]

Kelsenellenelvian, on Mar 22 2009, 09:57 PM, said:

Something like this needs to be in a VERY controlled enviroment.

Too many people could easily make nefarious versions and sucker the common user without their know.

This can happen with ANY program. An open source version of vLite would be no different. No matter what it is, when you install a program, you're opening up your system. If someone wanted to, they could make a "nefarious version" right now. Just create an installer that installs the current version of nLite, along with some malicious goodies

Heck, an open source version would be even safer than a closed source one. Having the code means you know exactly what is going on with the program. You could add things, remove things, or just compile it as is

[Kelsenellenelvian]

You don't get what I mean.

I am talking about the end result.

90% of users cannot understand nor are willing to learn how to read the code or how to see a line or 2 of code in several thousand lines that will cause these issues.

While 5-10% of the users will use these means to their advantage. The other 5% will be honest to try and make sure these issues are rectified but by then the damage will already be done.

As for making wrappers for the installer, yeah that can be done but the official website has file size and MD5Hash...

[EGOvoruhk]

Kelsenellenelvian, on Mar 24 2009, 05:03 PM, said:

As for making wrappers for the installer, yeah that can be done but the official website has file size and MD5Hash...

And just how many people do you think actually check the hash? I know I didn't

My point was, open sourcing it isn't going to be the end of the world. How many open sourced applications have been rewritten for malicious means? If someone wanted to do some harm, they wouldn't be messing with something as small as vLite, they'd go with something that has a wider appeal. Similar to why virus creators go after Windows users, instead of Linux or OS X

[Nick_White]

If nuhi won't be working on it anymore, it should be open-sourced.
An open-source project is better than a dead project.

[aviv00]

windows 7 need vlite to save space
vista need vlite to boost it

win7 have lots of files folders dupes, all the images contain dupe sometime 4 files are the same
even ms remove few stuff from it its still bloat

This post has been edited by aviv00: 26 March 2009 - 09:50 AM

[Jatin Beniwal]

I am waiting for vlite for previous six months. First three months I m waiting when he gone back to work as his profile shows on vacation & then he came back from vacation & after three months his profile shows on pause. What the bulls*** this is. We are waiting for the release of next vlite version. Open source is much better than a dead one. I felt cheated.

[Kelsenellenelvian]

Jatin Beniwal, on Mar 26 2009, 06:10 PM, said:

I am waiting for vlite for previous six months. First three months I m waiting when he gone back to work as his profile shows on vacation & then he came back from vacation & after three months his profile shows on pause. What the bulls*** this is. We are waiting for the release of next vlite version. Open source is much better than a dead one. I felt cheated.

DID YOU PAY FOR IT???

WTH is this attitude? Nuhi worked on this and nLite for years without charging for it. He has a life to live now (Seems others expect us developers to not have lives and do all this for free)

Where would you be if all free programs just pulled the plug?

Posts like this give Nuhi justification for taking as long a vacation as he needs...

[gamehead200]

Jatin Beniwal, on Mar 26 2009, 09:10 PM, said:

I am waiting for vlite for previous six months. First three months I m waiting when he gone back to work as his profile shows on vacation & then he came back from vacation & after three months his profile shows on pause. What the bulls*** this is. We are waiting for the release of next vlite version. Open source is much better than a dead one. I felt cheated.

You should be grateful that he released the program for free in the first place. And anyways... Read what he said above:

nuhi, on Mar 15 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

I have nothing to say for now, very busy working on a full-time job.

[cluberti]

nuhi took the time to write the code, test it, fix bugs filed, and make it the way it is. It is *his* code - all of you whiners can complain elsewhere. If he wants to kill it, so be it.

For fear that someone will whine further, I'm closing this thread. Do *not* create another.

[Closed].