[slhk]

Xeno86, on 10 September 2010 - 05:06 AM, said:

slhk, on 10 September 2010 - 04:40 AM, said:

RC3 is not okay for me. When Lingoes is running, there is invalid page fault in KERNELEX.DLL whenever I do anything related to Explorer (e.g. move my mouse pointer over the Taskbar, press Windows+R to call the Run window, etc). Downgraded to RC1 solved the problem. Hope this can be fixed in next RC

I need your Windows version, Lingoes version, compatibility settings used by you, MFC42U.dll version
and most importantly Dr Watson crash log.
I haven't noticed the described behaviour with Lingoes 2.7.1 working under 98SE with 4.5 RC3.

1. My Windows is Simplified Chinese 98SE with RP 9.6.6. Lingoes is 2.7.1, compatibility set to XP SP2. MFC42U.dll is 6.02.8071.0

2. Failed to get Dr Watson crash log because the dumping process freezed

3. I have found a workaround to the "invalid page fault" problem: Keep closing the invalid page fault windows repeatedly until Explorer finally crashs and restarts. Then the Explorer runs normally with Lingoes

4. The "invalid page fault" problem also occurred when I tried to open some folders with Explorer (Lingoes was not running at that time)

5. Downgraded to RC1 for the time being

[TmEE]

KernelEx 4.5 RC3 causes lot of GFX elements to be black in Gimp 2.2

First I thought it was caused by RP9 but after uninstalling it, things did not change... then I uninstalled KEX and everything was normal, after installing RP9 things remained OK aswell.

So far other than that, I have not had problems with KEX.

If needed I can provide some screenshots of the problem aswell.

EDIT: I installed KEX again and I started getting errors on WMIEXE, if I moved the mouse over something I got an error... I could navigate between folders ando pen programs, after clicking close on the error windows many times, and I could uninstall KEX then.

After reboot, shortcuts became ineffective and quicklaunch was gone. I had it before, and fix was to reinstall KEX and uninstall it, and when I reinstalled I still got the error. I did an install/uninstall with an older version and shortcuts became working again, and I had to manually enable quicklaunch...

Now I got another problem which prevents me from installing any version of KEX. ERROR: Disable_platform_check:pattern not found



EDIT: I forgot one detial... one install of KEX failed, it gave an error that install failed, and thus I uninstalled it and tried again, at form nothing works.

EDIT: Seems I got KEX'ed KERNEL32.DLL in the system without DLL... I reverted it to KERNEL32.DLL form Win98 setup files, and now KEX install says it cannot open KERNEL32.BAK file, and suggests me to get the DLL from install media, so I copied the DLL to KEX dir in win folder and renamed it to the BAK hoping it works and I get the error I got before.
Kinda makes me think KEX thinks its still installed...... ?

This post has been edited by TmEE: 11 September 2010 - 01:10 PM

[dencorso]

@CyberyogiCoWindler, RLoew, and all others involved, myself included:
It just dawned on me we were actively hijacking this thread, so I've decided to remedy this.
All relevant posts are now moved and incorporated to this other thread, where they fit best, and will be easier to find, instead of ending-up buried in a ton of KEx posts, as would inevitably happen here.

@Xeno86, and everybody trying to keep to the main subject of the present thread: Sorry for the (now solved) hijack!

[loblo]

TmEE, on 11 September 2010 - 08:54 AM, said:

EDIT: Seems I got KEX'ed KERNEL32.DLL in the system without DLL... I reverted it to KERNEL32.DLL form Win98 setup files, and now KEX install says it cannot open KERNEL32.BAK file, and suggests me to get the DLL from install media, so I copied the DLL to KEX dir in win folder and renamed it to the BAK hoping it works and I get the error I got before.
Kinda makes me think KEX thinks its still installed...... ?

If you delete KernelEx startup key in the registry it won't think it is still installed anymore as it won't try to load at all.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MPRServices\KernelEx

[TmEE]

Hmm, there was nothing in there in the registry....

Only KEX related thing I found in the registry was this :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\CLASSES\*\shellex\PropertySheetHandlers\KernelEx

[loblo]

Well then KernelEx doesn't load if this key is not there. Are you still getting this error message? If so it is the KernelEx uninstaller and you should find its entry in one of the standard registry startup keys I guess.

[CyberyogiCoWindler]

I just want to mention that KernelEx 4.5 RC3 on my main PC still runs fine (using Firefox 3.6.9 and GOM Player). I had no unusual crashs or black menus etc. yet.

[TmEE]

Seems that KEX 4.5b1 and 4.5b2 allow me to install but they always say KEX install failed after reboot. Other versions of course don't let me install them...

EDIT: I'll do a virus scan, with MS-DOS part of Norton 2005...
EDIT: I don't not..

AND came out that the KERNEL32.DLL I extracted to C:\ got loaded instead what was in the SYSTEM folder, thus the fialure to install messages....
BUT other versions will still not install... beta 1 and 2 do though, currently I got beta 2 installed.

This post has been edited by TmEE: 12 September 2010 - 04:27 AM

[Joseph_sw]

i lucky enough to grab the Kex 4.5 RC3 before it got withdrawed.
i installed on my system {English 98SE, with 98SE2ME + NUSB 3.3 + RP 9.6.6} so far i haven't encountered any problem with it.

The RC3 still have the same behaviour as RC1 thats makes MAME spiting "Out of Memory!" exception error, regarless compatibly settings.
Downgrade to beta2 make MAME works, but obviously flash10 is not working with beta2, so i keep the RC3 instead.

[TmEE]

I'd recommend removing RC3 and going back to something older... I had things work fine in the beginning (apart from the GIMP issue) but then all hell broke loose which I managed to partially solve for now.

...and I did not have viruses according to DOS NAV2005

[Tihiy]

Quote

The RC3 still have the same behaviour as RC1 thats makes MAME spiting "Out of Memory!" exception error, regarless compatibly settings.
Downgrade to beta2 make MAME works, but obviously flash10 is not working with beta2, so i keep the RC3 instead.

Please tell us more on how to replicate this error. Also please try "Disable custom heap" compatibility mode.

[TmEE]

Update: I abandon my setup and start doing a new one.

I'll keep it around if somebody thinks it is worth to debug/attempt at resurrection...

[Joseph_sw]

Tihiy, on 12 September 2010 - 12:50 PM, said:

Please tell us more on how to replicate this error. Also please try "Disable custom heap" compatibility mode.

i use the Mame Official Windows Binary Packages release from: http://mamedev.org/release.html
It also have link for source code, and link for a few roms test (just copy/move the downloaded rom in .zip form to roms directory).

To clarify per MSFN rule, respective Owner of that roms, gives their explicit permision for MameDev to host their roms images there.

i already try the "Disable Custom Heap" option as well any others in KernelEx compatibility settings tabs, none of it solve the Mame problem on RC1 / RC3 release, i got the same result.

To replicate the error simply try to run the MAMEPP.EXE

Should nothing goes wrong, Mame should give the list of random selection of available roms from roms directory.
However with RC1/RC3 i got ta Message saying "Out of Memory!", then exit the Mame.

This post has been edited by Joseph_sw: 12 September 2010 - 05:51 PM

[Comos]

It would be nice also to have a port of Kernel Ex on Win 95OSR2 ... I use both OS, but Win95OSR2 more

[trevor89]

Hi, I was woundering if anyone has tried Call Of Duty (any)?

I downloaded Call Of Duty 2 Demo because I remember playing it with a freind on the xbox, I was actualy looking for 3, but it loaded to a blamk screen after showing the picture and then exited, when I re-load it (With any kex option) it says it needs to go into safe mode but does the same process.

There are no messeges displayed.

Trev

[rainyd]

I'm really surprised to see that some users have problem with newest versions of KernelEx - I have 4.5 RC2 and I don't have any trouble with it.

[patclash]

rainyd, on 15 September 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

I'm really surprised to see that some users have problem with newest versions of KernelEx - I have 4.5 RC2 and I don't have any trouble with it.

Me too;
as I said in post #748, I have ownly problem with the RC3 version
The RC2 version work well for me

[FlippX]

Hey,
First: I don't have real problems with RC2 either.
Does anybody know about the last GIMP version that works with KEX?!? I tried 2.6.0 with KEX-compabilities (in this case "XP-mode"), since I somewhere read that it should work. At least it starts, thats more version 2.4.x does. But when it is loading it stucks nearly before being finished. The GIMP dialog translated says: "Searching for workfiles: Documents".
And a win-message appears:

GIMP-2 verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul <Unbekannt> bei 0000:00000009.
Register:
EAX=00e96840 CS=0177 EIP=00000009 EFLGS=00210202
EBX=01a02dd0 SS=017f ESP=00c3f298 EBP=00c3f2b8
ECX=00000000 DS=017f ESI=6d5a7e30 FS=5ec7
EDX=01c56820 ES=017f EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
00 66 0c 65 04 70 00 65 04 70 00 54 ff 00 f0 79
Stapelwerte:
0000017f 6d5b18f3 01c56820 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00c3f338 63a5d894 01a02dd0 00e96830 bff7e8b0 6d5c04ab 00c3f2fc 81d858ec

Any ideas what to do?


And there is another program that doesn't seem to work correctly. There was a thread about it, but I can't find it anymore.. It's "Apophysis 2" (www.apophysis.org), a fractal-art-generator. It should even work natively on win98! The guy of that thread had the same problem as I do: After the program is loaded the "rendering-window" just shows an hourglass. Although I can even switch the backgroundcolor and -transparency, the hourglass remains there and nothing is rendered. And it seems that I can't even render pictures to th hdd. Preview just works fine.
Furthermore there is a java-version of this program that simply works!
Maybe someone with the same problems is around here..?!
Any help is appreciated.
Bye
Flipp

[JC95]

Hey, FlippX
On the previous page TmEE mentioned that he used GIMP 2.2 with a "previous version". Probably it's RC1 or beta2. And about the other application that you think might be native to Win98, have you tried to disable KernelEx for that particular application?

When everything is settled, I guess, it's possible to think about a Win95 port of KernelEx. I don't think it's much of a difference to 98. Or is it, Tihiy?

This post has been edited by JC95: 16 September 2010 - 10:06 AM

[FlippX]

Thx, but in my case Gimp2.2 and the new KEX just work fine together. (Maybe use the right GDI+-version, if it doesn't work)
Gimp 2.4 even runs (win2000-mode), but if I click the "text-tool" the program crashes without leaving any message. Why is that?! Am I missing some (new Xp-) fonts?!

About Apophysis: In short, I have tried every compability-mode. No success..
I downloaded older versions and noticed that version 2.04 works correctly. The guys seem to have changed the renderer after that version.. and some gui-things as well. Anyways, it should work...
Can someone try this plz?!? There even is no need to install it!!! ---> (http://sourceforge.n...ects/apophysis/) If you don't see an hourglass, but a randomly rendered picture, it works...for you..