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KernelEx 4.5.2

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You can hex-edit and change capGetDriverDiscriptionW to capGetDriverDiscriptionA and capCreateCaptureWindowW to capCreateCaptureWindowA and MagicJack will start but won't work properly (error connecting to servers).

I just tried that, coming out of dos after renaming my blackbox.exe shell wouldn't load, lol.

Btw, RC5 works great with Opera 10.63, which prints web stuff on an Epson w/ no prob.

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You can hex-edit and change capGetDriverDiscriptionW to capGetDriverDiscriptionA and capCreateCaptureWindowW to capCreateCaptureWindowA and MagicJack will start but won't work properly (error connecting to servers).

I just tried that, coming out of dos after renaming my blackbox.exe shell wouldn't load, lol.

Btw, RC5 works great with Opera 10.63, which prints web stuff on an Epson w/ no prob.

Am I right in saying that printing web pages using Firefox 3.6.12 isn't possible whether KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 is installed or not?

My printer is an Epson Style Colour Printer 680

Does this look normal with those 2 drivers saying not installed?

printe10.jpg

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When searching for my KERNEL32.DLL in it's properties for KernelEx it has the middle button ticked for disable KernelEx extensions, is this normal too can I ask?

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Double-posting is not appreciated in forum, you know. Firefox 3.x won't print and will demonstrate unstable behavior whatever you do, period.

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I'm curious quist, In the Device Manager (Under Sound Devices), does USB Internet Phone show up as installed properly? If so, can you open a sound recording program, like Soundrec or Audacity and record your voice from the phone?

If you try this, you may have to select the device in the Volume Control.

Not USB Internet Phone, but it shows up as USB Audio Device...working properly.

Using Windows sound recorder (sndrec32.exe) and as you suggested, opening sndvol32.exe, the device Handset came up in the control. Ticking record shows an entry named Unknown, selected it and turned the volume up - hit record and the dial tone stopped, so I said "Watson come here" in the handset and could see it recording. Pushed play expecting to hear it through the comps speakers, duh...yes, it played back fine in the handset. So it would appear the drivers can handle it, but (as you probably know) without the program you can't dial.

Hmm, in addition to using the MJ software on XP I have been using the device to talk on Skype and X-lite. It's kind of convuluted, but I have set up X-lite with an free account from iptel.org and I've got a number from Ipkall.com. Sometimes, when I go to a friend's house, I forward the MJ to my IPKall number (which is set up with iptel) and can dial out using Google Voice. At my friend's house I just fire up X-lite and can get my calls. It doesn't always work perfectly, but usually does well. Of course the MJ isn't necessary for X-lite, but it is a convenience to use the cordless. So, if you can figure it out you might be able to do a similar setup on 98.

If you want help send me a private message. X-lite 4 has pretty heavy system requirements 2 or 3 would probably be better and, of course, there may be other IP phone software out there.

EDIT: I'm going to another friend's house who has my old 98 box. I'll take the MJ with me and see if I can get it to work with X-lite. I'll let you know.

Further EDIT: I plugged the device in and got some of the necessary drivers to install, enough that the audio functions. I did not get anything else to show up in explorer. I installed X-lite 3 and called a time and temperature number, smashing success. I also called my MJ left a voice-mail, and then retrieved it, again success.

I have a couple of minor issues, USB Phone by TigerJet is showing up under Network Devices as not installed properly. I have to use the device to listen to all audio, I'm trying to remember how to switch the default device under 98.

I'll try to find a good driver and switch the default device, but at least we know this can be done.

xlite.jpg

Even further edit: Duh, change the default device under Multimedia in the Control Panel. I give up on the driver, maybe some other day!

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Double-posting is not appreciated in forum, you know. Firefox 3.x won't print and will demonstrate unstable behavior whatever you do, period.

I take it that Firefox 3.x prints for compatible operating systems though? or it won't print for any system whether KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 is installed or not.

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Guys, this is a thread about KernelEx, not one about I've installed a browser and messed up my html filetypes associations... :whistle:

:angel

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Guys, this is a thread about KernelEx, not one about I've installed a browser and messed up my html filetypes associations... :whistle:

:angel

Of course.

I was going to suggest that Frogman and I take it up on a new thread if it had continued any longer.

My apologies.

To get back to KernelEx, can I ask that the developers make it a priority now to get this new version actually made an official release, as soon as any regressions have been sorted out.

Trying to make more programs compatible with it before then will only result in it never being released.

New compatibilities can surely wait for the next version!

:)

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To get back to KernelEx, can I ask that the developers make it a priority now to get this new version actually made an official release, as soon as any regressions have been sorted out.

Trying to make more programs compatible with it before then will only result in it never being released.

New compatibilities can surely wait for the next version!

That's my fault since i'm the feature-pusher. So far there are following release do-wants:

- Printer problems (not reproduceable)

- Flash problems (minor / no clue)

- AlphaBlend improvements

- setup improvements

- MSI compat db

- wiki

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That's my fault since i'm the feature-pusher. So far there are following release do-wants:

- Printer problems (not reproduceable)

- Flash problems (minor / no clue)

- AlphaBlend improvements

- setup improvements

- MSI compat db

- wiki

I've been following the "printer problems" with some interest, as I use an Epson USB printer myself.

Are people trying to get XP or later only printer drivers to work in Windows 98 using KernelEx, or are they saying that drivers that are supposed to work under Windows 98 aren't now working because of KernelEx!?

My printer (Stylus Photo R285), supplied with Windows 98 compatible drivers, works fine, both before and after applying KernelEx.

:)

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Be interesting when the official KernelEx is released if there will be a help file with it.

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That's my fault since i'm the feature-pusher. So far there are following release do-wants:

- Printer problems (not reproduceable)

- Flash problems (minor / no clue)

- AlphaBlend improvements

- setup improvements

- MSI compat db

- wiki

Are people trying to get XP or later only printer drivers to work in Windows 98 using KernelEx, or are they saying that drivers that are supposed to work under Windows 98 aren't now working because of KernelEx!?

My printer (Stylus Photo R285), supplied with Windows 98 compatible drivers, works fine, both before and after applying KernelEx.

:)

My Epson printer colour stylus 680 still works with KernelEx RC5 installed, it just doesn't print web pages from FF 3.6.

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My Epson printer colour stylus 680 still works with KernelEx RC5 installed, it just doesn't print web pages from FF 3.6.

Which to my understanding is an intrinsic problem with Firefox 3 under Windows 98, even with KernelEx installed, nothing to do with the printer driver itself. I don't think it works with any printer drivers.

Personally I think it's been a great achievement by the KernelEx devs to get Firefox 3 to run under Windows 98 at all!

IMO getting the Firefox printing to work comes under the same category as getting Java to work in the latest Opera versions.

Something to investigate for the next version of KernelEx, not something to delay the release of this version for!

:)

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I've been following the "printer problems" with some interest, as I use an Epson USB printer myself.

Are people trying to get XP or later only printer drivers to work in Windows 98 using KernelEx, or are they saying that drivers that are supposed to work under Windows 98 aren't now working because of KernelEx!?

All the drivers I have installed were released for Windows 9x

As I said, I have Epson drivers for a printer and a scanner installed, but the problem appears with an HP printer.

All are USB 1 connected.

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My Epson printer colour stylus 680 still works with KernelEx RC5 installed, it just doesn't print web pages from FF 3.6.

Which to my understanding is an intrinsic problem with Firefox 3 under Windows 98, even with KernelEx installed, nothing to do with the printer driver itself. I don't think it works with any printer drivers.

Personally I think it's been a great achievement by the KernelEx devs to get Firefox 3 to run under Windows 98 at all!

IMO getting the Firefox printing to work comes under the same category as getting Java to work in the latest Opera versions.

Something to investigate for the next version of KernelEx, not something to delay the release of this version for!

:)

Dave,

Can I ask, have you stopped new PM's for yourself on here?

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Dave,

Can I ask, have you stopped new PM's for yourself on here?

No, but my message box was full!

Try again.

:)

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Trying to make more programs compatible with it before then will only result in it never being released.

New compatibilities can surely wait for the next version!

:)

I can tell you that there are a few programs (not many) I can't run but would love to and it's been quite hard to refrain myself asking whether they could be made to work until now.

I personally don't care about FF3 printing issues at all but would love to be able to run:

Picturenaut 3 - http://www.hdrlabs.com/picturenaut/index.html (crashes on launch in msvcrt)

Aodix 4 - http://www.aodix.com/pageaodixv4.html (runs but does not display the UI inside the window)

FFRend - http://ffrend.sourceforge.net/ (runs but crashes in nvidia dlls as soon as I load a video or image file)

VST plugins written with the Juce GUI framework such as those: http://www.rs-met.com/freebies.html (they load in hosts but either display a blank UI or the UI seem to have a zero vertical size and extremely big horizontal size). Handiest host to quickly test this out is savihost - http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm (drag drop the vst plugin dll onto the savihost executable and voilà)

That's about it for my wish list besides the regression which makes the recent versions of Apophysis 2 (those who can load plugins) display indefinitely a big hourglass again. (used to be fixed in an older release of KernelEx). - http://sourceforge.net/projects/apophysis/files/

:sneaky:

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Picturenaut 3 - http://www.hdrlabs.c...naut/index.html (crashes on launch in msvcrt)
You need to define APPDATA and USERPROFILE environment variables.

CharlesF , we need you help. The printer drivers you have are old and most likely can't be affected by KernelEx. Crash you had happens in spool32 which is excluded from KernelEx. There were no core changes between RC4 and RC5 either. Please elaborate on your problem:

* does problem occurs with KernelEx installed in 'disable by default' mode?

* how bad is hang and what it seems to be caused from (message loop, high cpu usage, i/o, windows drawing, etc)

* does problem happen with spoolss.dll from winme?

* if you decide problem is surely RC5 specific, try RC5 with kernelex.dll from RC4.

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CharlesF , we need you help. The printer drivers you have are old and most likely can't be affected by KernelEx.

Thanks to take time to look in my problem!

The drivers are the last version (at least, I found) to be Win 9x compatible.

* does problem occurs with KernelEx installed in 'disable by default' mode?

If you mean to tick 'Disable KernelEx extensions' in compatibility tab, I have try it without reboot but it doesn't help.

* how bad is hang and what it seems to be caused from (message loop, high cpu usage, i/o, windows drawing, etc)

What am I suppose to do to know that?

With a light doc file, printing only is freezing with the printer icon remaining in systray.

If I try with a heavier one, all system is hanging.

* does problem happen with spoolss.dll from winme?

SPOOLSS.DLL version 4.10.2223 French 103 KB

I can upload it if you need.

* if you decide problem is surely RC5 specific, try RC5 with kernelex.dll from RC4.

I will have to reinstall KernelEx RC 5.

I do as soon I find the time, maybe tomorrow and come back with report. :)

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This thread is for discussing KernelEx *only*! :realmad:

Start another thread, if you need, but do stop hijacking this one!

I understand, I did try and PM Dave-H but his message box was full and I was unable to leave him a message, so I thought it was only courteous thing to do was to reply to him, but I take what you say.

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That's about it for my wish list besides the regression which makes the recent versions of Apophysis 2 (those who can load plugins) display indefinitely a big hourglass again. (used to be fixed in an older release of KernelEx). - http://sourceforge.n...pophysis/files/
Researched that. It was working in 4.5b2 and won't work anymore since it's makes bad assumptions about process/thread IDs. This change was removed in RC1 since it caused a lot of troubles.
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Following of post # 1016

CharlesF, we need your help.

...

* if you decide problem is surely RC5 specific, try RC5 with kernelex.dll from RC4.

I will have to reinstall KernelEx RC 5.

I do as soon I find the time, maybe tomorrow and come back with report. :)

OK, here is my report:

  • Starting from KernelEx 4.5 RC 4 -> printing on HP LaserJet 1022 is fine.
  • Uninstall KernelEx -> printing is fine.
  • Reinstall version RC 5
    -> Scanner Epson Perfection 2000 USB is running fine.
    -> once again same problem (freezing) when I try to print from Word 2000 (9.0.8961 SP-3). I have to do Ctrl+Alt+Del to go out.
    I have uploaded a few stuff (ressources in Task Manager, Filemeon & Regmon log):
    After several minutes, I get a page printed with only the few first words of my printing try (but nothing else).
    -> printing from IE6SP1, Maxthon or Opera 10.63 seems without flaw presently.
  • Replacement of KernelEx.dll(RC5) by KernelEx.dll(RC4) using a WININIT.ini and reboot, doesn't change anything.
    I have even made another try by replacing the default content of the 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\KernelEx' registry key from RC5
    by the content from RC4 (in addition of KernelEx.dll replacement), but it doesn't help.
  • At last, new uninstall of KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 and downgrade to RC 4,
    ... and once again printing is smooth & instant!
  • Something else: if I go to Control Panel->System, my printer appears in error(= yellow question mark) ,
    with stated in Properties (free translation): 'Device state: Driver not installed (Code 28).'
    It is the same with no KernelEx installed, RC4 or RC5.
    I have also tried to unplug the printer from the USB2 card to a USB1 port (and reboot) but it doesn't change.
    ... but the fact is that it had always been working fine like that in all circumstances.

HTH

Charles.

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That's about it for my wish list besides the regression which makes the recent versions of Apophysis 2 (those who can load plugins) display indefinitely a big hourglass again. (used to be fixed in an older release of KernelEx). - http://sourceforge.n...pophysis/files/
Researched that. It was working in 4.5b2 and won't work anymore since it's makes bad assumptions about process/thread IDs. This change was removed in RC1 since it caused a lot of troubles.

Too bad :} Thanks for looking into it anyway. :hello:

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Something else: if I go to Control Panel->System, my printer appears in error(= yellow question mark) ,

with stated in Properties (free translation): 'Device state: Driver not installed (Code 28).'

It is the same with no KernelEx installed, RC4 or RC5.

I have also tried to unplug the printer from the USB2 card to a USB1 port (and reboot) but it doesn't change.

... but the fact is that it had always been working fine like that in all circumstances.

Now that's insane. Look around, you have NT drivers! In filemon and drwatson logs, there are mention of dlls which don't belong to drivers you posted: SDIMF32.DLL, QDPRINT.DLL, SD32.DLL, SDDM32.DLL, SR32.DLL, ZGDI32.DLL, ZSPOOL.DLL, etc. Wtf? It's possible that's NT drivers and they started to work with RC5 :blink: but not well ofc. Tell me where to get these files, or i'll have to treat this an invalid situation and not a regression.
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