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KernelEx 4.5.2

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ironman14 did not get the link wrong.  The link on the wiki main page is wrong.  Thanks for providing the correct one.  Someone should correct the wiki link.
 
Cheers and Regards

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From: KernelEx Newbie

Subject: KernelEx and Converter App

I wanted a simple pdf import and export app for 98SE. Free PDF to Word

Converter is perfect.

Functions:

Imports all or part of a pdf to MS Word

Edit pdf in Word

Export edited pdf

I don't need a pdf editor with hundreds of options. The installer for Free PDF

to Word Converter is less than 1 mb.

There are two installer packages but they are not the same:

http://www.freepdfsolutions.com/free-pdf-to-word-converter.html

http://download.cnet.com/Free-PDF-to-Word-Converter/3000-10743_4-75732609.html

The installer from the publisher (freepdfsolutions) does nothing when you

double click with your mouse. Changing KernelEx properties doesn't help.

The installer from CNET makes a lot of noise. It identified two missing DLLs:

GdiPlus.dll

api-ms-win-core-heap-l1-2-0.dll

After trying the DLLs in the installer directory, Windows System, and System32

I added copies to all three locations. No luck. I'm getting two message boxes

(files attached).

Tinkering with the KernelEx properties sheet is not helping.

I wish the installer was self-extracting. I would open the archive and add the DLLs.

(I tried opening the installer with Universal Extractor. Doesn't work.)

Should I quit this app or can KernelEx help?

If KernelEx cannot work its magic can you recommend another converter?

There are countless free pdf to word converters, but most of them cannot

import part (also called extraction) of a pdf or export the word document as

a new pdf. I've seen some open source editors that are very good, but I

don't need a high end professional editor with countless features.

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I tried the Free PDF to Word Doc Converter (http://www.hellopdf.com/index.php). KernelEX isn't required. I successfully converted the text of a pdf file to doc. But the images are missing. I don't have MS Word installed on this machine. I opened the doc file with OpenOffice. 

 

Key Features:
Convert PDF to Word and preserve the original layout of your PDF in an editable Word Document.
Extract text labels, graphics, shapes from PDF file into Word Doc file.
Convert all the pages, or partial pages of PDF file to Word file.
Support Adobe PDF 1.0 - 1.6 formats.
Can automatically open the output Doc file when the conversion is done.
Several PDF to Word conversion options are available for a better result.
Convert in a high speed.
Easy to use software.
Totally for Free! :)

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> The installer for Free PDF to Word Converter is less than 1 mb.

555KB from either of your sources.

>There are two installer packages but they are not the same:

Yes, the installer packages are. The other Cnet package (683KB, bigger than the 555KB target!) is a downloader.

>http://www.freepdfsolutions.com/free-pdf-to-word-converter.html

>http://download.cnet.com/Free-PDF-to-Word-Converter/3000-10743_4-75732609.html

The Cnet page has two links: the first "Download Now Installer Enabled" is for the 683KB downloader; directly below it is the second "Direct Download Link" which is for the 555KB setup installer.

>The installer from the publisher (freepdfsolutions) does nothing when you double click with your mouse. Changing KernelEx properties doesn't help.

Confirmed. I'll investigate later on my Kexstubs machine.

The installer from CNET makes a lot of noise. It identified two missing DLLs:

GdiPlus.dll

api-ms-win-core-heap-l1-2-0.dll

After trying the DLLs in the installer directory, Windows System, and System32

I added copies to all three locations. No luck. I'm getting two message boxes

api-ms-win-core-heap-l1-2-0.dll is Windows 8 file. Perhaps Cnet detected your download machine as Win8 and fed you a file targeted for that OS....

Now that I've downloaded the files in question, I'll do some investigating.

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Guys, the installer I got from one of the official links is exactly 1,128,916 bytes. I unpacked it with Inno Setup Unpacker Explorer v1.0 by Richard Santaella rather than running it as is - I usually do whatever I can to avoid running installers.

The unpacker provided me with 5 files in the {app} folder:

pdf2word.exe

pdfinfo.exe

options.ini

Emerald.ssk

help.url

 

Launching pdf2word.exe presented me instantly with the GUI, I selected a PDF document created by myself and converted it. However, when I tried to open the converted document, Office XP took quite a long time (around 30 seconds, roughly).

 

First unpleasant thing noticed was that the application only offered a choice of Times New Roman and Arial for default font but it didn't take into account the regional settings for the system/user, which in my case are Romanian, therefore the text in the .doc document showed up in English encoding instead of Central European which should have been the default (for both original PDF and System).

 

Other than that the text seems to be fine. There are no images in that PDF so I can't tell how it handles those. But at least we know the application itself works, at least on my 98SE machine. And KernelEx is installed but left in Default mode, no tampering with it.

 

I have never tried to launch the installer for this application.

 

EDIT: I'm talking about Free PDF to Word Doc Converter from hellopdf.com (schwups' link).

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Yes, these are two different progams with nearly the same name. Probably it is very difficult or nearly impossible to run the one of "freepdfsolutions.com" on Win 98SE.

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Guys, the installer I got from one of the official links is exactly 1,128,916 bytes. I unpacked it with Inno Setup Unpacker Explorer v1.0 by Richard Santaella rather than running it as is - I usually do whatever I can to avoid running installers.

The unpacker provided me with 5 files in the {app} folder:

pdf2word.exe

pdfinfo.exe

options.ini

Emerald.ssk

help.url

 

Launching pdf2word.exe presented me instantly with the GUI, I selected a PDF document created by myself and converted it. However, when I tried to open the converted document, Office XP took quite a long time (around 30 seconds, roughly).

 

First unpleasant thing noticed was that the application only offered a choice of Times New Roman and Arial for default font but it didn't take into account the regional settings for the system/user, which in my case are Romanian, therefore the text in the .doc document showed up in English encoding instead of Central European which should have been the default (for both original PDF and System).

 

Other than that the text seems to be fine. There are no images in that PDF so I can't tell how it handles those. But at least we know the application itself works, at least on my 98SE machine. And KernelEx is installed but left in Default mode, no tampering with it.

 

I have never tried to launch the installer for this application.

 

EDIT: I'm talking about Free PDF to Word Doc Converter from hellopdf.com (schwups' link).

The generated file is not a real doc. but a rtf. Office is always very bad to open a file that does not have the right extension. You can open the generated file only with metapad.

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You are absolutely right: looking at the raw code I see the RTF tags. While something is better than nothing, we could still call this a hoax I guess...

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I have the following problem using Fileformatconverter (stand alone) in combination with powerpoint files.

 

Right clicking a ppt file choosing the option "Save as" (i.c. Moc.exe -f "inputfile") gives "The converter failed to save the file". In Dependency Walker or Filemon its visible that the "Save as" option first opens Moc.exe, than - in case of a ppt file - this program opens Ppcnvcom.exe (in case of 97-2002 & 2007 word or excel files there are no serious problems to overcome- see also my post on http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/133124-ms-office-2007-compatibility-pack-with-office-97/#entry1090415).

 

Experimenting using Ppcnvcom.exe (i.c. Ppcnvcom.exe -oice "inputfile (ppt)" "outputfile (pptx)") its possible to convert (silent!) ppt2pptx with Ppcnvcom.exe in Kernelex compatibility mode NT40 or higher. Pptx2ppt is not possible - but that should be normal behaviour as far as I know. I am using the latest files version 12.0.6500.5000. Older ones make no difference, except the first version of Fileformatconverters (Ppcnvcom.exe version 12.0.4518.1014 crashes).

 

Any ideas? Using Dependency Walker seems impossible because of a crash in Ppcnvcom.exe in both cases.  :realmad:

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