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I've tested again and VirtualDUB crashes when those plugins exist. Besides, if you enable KernelEX, VirtualDUB starts with Ffvdub.vdf and MP4InputDriver.vdplugin, but not Vdubauo.vdf.


Interesting. When I set compatability for virtualdub.exe it didn't die silently but display some error message that Virtualdub crashed and I can take error log and close it. But if you try to uninstall kernelex you will see that it start with all plugins. And this seems to me a bug - affect programs that doesn't have compatability set.

Edited by xrayer, 20 May 2010 - 03:38 AM.

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Can KernelEx be used to allow NT4.0 File Manager (Winfile.exe, 32-bit, LFNs compliant) to run under Win98SE? If so, are there any special steps that must be done?

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no, lelandaust! Running NT4 File Manager under 98se/ME WITH KernelEx installed results in error message "The WINFILE.EXE file is linked to missing export SHELL32.DLL:StrChrW". I've checked this myself and confirmed it.

Looks like KernelEx will need to be updated to include StrChrW function for SHELL32.DLL file, which the Win98/ME versions do NOT have (AND KernelEx will need to "patch" 98se/ME's shell32.dll file to make that possible).

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I'm just curious, from a technical standpoint...why can't KernelEx work on Win 95? Is it a technical limitation (I know the platforms are quite similar) or an artificial one?

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How can I implement functions on a dll like KernelEx do?

I want to know.

Thanks.

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Can KernelEx be used to allow NT4.0 File Manager (Winfile.exe, 32-bit, LFNs compliant) to run under Win98SE? If so, are there any special steps that must be done?

lelandaust


no, lelandaust! Running NT4 File Manager under 98se/ME WITH KernelEx installed results in error message "The WINFILE.EXE file is linked to missing export SHELL32.DLL:StrChrW". I've checked this myself and confirmed it.

Looks like KernelEx will need to be updated to include StrChrW function for SHELL32.DLL file, which the Win98/ME versions do NOT have (AND KernelEx will need to "patch" 98se/ME's shell32.dll file to make that possible).


OK. Thanks, erpdude8. I had gotten the same error message, but presumed that I had done something wrong. Making NT4 file manager run in Win98se would be great, but it may be more trouble than it is worth, if Shell32.dll has to be patched.

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When I try to install the 4.5 beta 2 I get a "Setupkex has caused an error in SETUPKEX.EXE".
I'm running Windows ME if that helps.

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Any news about a new version of KernelEx?

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I found a compatability problem with VirtualDUB, resp. with some its plugins that I use (e.g. FFVDUB.VDF, VDUBAUO.VDF, MP4InputDriver.vdplugin...) and Kernelex. Before I installed Kernelex it ran fine. Now VirtualDUB don't start (no error displayed, I see it only in task manager as a zombie process). I don't use global compatability I rather use individual. Enabling compatability for virtualdub.exe didn't help. When I uninstall Kernelex (ctlpanel/programs/remove) it started to work again. I also tried to downgrade to version 4.0 but the same. Even with old 0.3.6. If mentioned plugins are moved/renamed from plugins and plugins32 dir it starts. Here I made a small VirtualDUB 1.9.9 test package - please try someone else. I don't understand how Kernelex can affect other programs that don't have compatability set. Is there some similar issue with another program that sopped working after Kernelex installation?

There is a known problem that despite disabling KernelEx extensions still two things are enabled (hardwired) when KernelEx is installed. These are platform version check in PE executables and resource number limit check. Until your report this hasn't proved to have any ill effects. In your case those plugins won't be loaded by a stock system so VDub won't hang when KernelEx is not installed.
I will change it so that these checks work normally when extensions are disabled in a subsequent release.


I'm just curious, from a technical standpoint...why can't KernelEx work on Win 95? Is it a technical limitation (I know the platforms are quite similar) or an artificial one?

Technically it could work on Windows 95. But the choice was made to use 98 based on two factors: 1) it has more implemented functions than 95 and 2) I use this system myself :yes: .
Making it work on 95 would require someone to port it.
Any volunteers? :sneaky:


When I try to install the 4.5 beta 2 I get a "Setupkex has caused an error in SETUPKEX.EXE".
I'm running Windows ME if that helps.

Will it help you if I tell you that it works perfectly for me?
Please write if it is a patched system, what other extensions from this forum you use, what language it is, etc. And it would be *very* useful if you could provide Dr.Watson log. Also check if 4.0 final 2 works for you.
Otherwise I can't help you, sorry.


Any news about a new version of KernelEx?

New version won't be released at least until next month because I'm *very* busy right now and have no time for KernelEx.
Next version will include the following changes:
* fixed GTA: San Andreas crash
* working latest Flash Player Plugin 10.1
* platform version check and resource limit check re-enabled when KernelEx extensions are disabled
* fixed compatibility problem with VDub reported by xrayer
* ... more to come ...
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Will it help you if I tell you that it works perfectly for me?
Please write if it is a patched system, what other extensions from this forum you use, what language it is, etc. And it would be *very* useful if you could provide Dr.Watson log. Also check if 4.0 final 2 works for you.
Otherwise I can't help you, sorry.

4.0 Final 2 works. The system is English and unpatched I believe, and no other extensions used yet.

Watson log attached.

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Edited by lightkun3, 13 June 2010 - 11:34 PM.


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From the Dr. Watson log:...

Attach the drwatson log then.

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Will it help you if I tell you that it works perfectly for me?
Please write if it is a patched system, what other extensions from this forum you use, what language it is, etc. And it would be *very* useful if you could provide Dr.Watson log. Also check if 4.0 final 2 works for you.
Otherwise I can't help you, sorry.

4.0 Final 2 works. The system is English and unpatched I believe, and no other extensions used yet.

Watson log attached.


This crash is a bug in error message display procedure.
Instead of crashing it should tell you that for some reason your system lacks a backup for kernel32.dll (c:\windows\kernelex\kernel32.bak) so it's not possible to upgrade. You need to copy this file from install media otherwise you won't be able to upgrade or downgrade KernelEx.
KernelEx 4.5 series has revamped uninstall procedure a bit so it's less likely to lose this backup file.
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KernelEx 4.5 series has revamped uninstall procedure a bit so it's less likely to lose this backup file.

Well, there are many ways to lose it. For example - there were many third-party cleaners which free HDD space by deleting unnecessary files in the time of Windows 98, some of them choose files by extension and *.bck, *.bak were considered unnecessary.

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Can KernelEx be used to allow NT4.0 File Manager (Winfile.exe, 32-bit, LFNs compliant) to run under Win98SE? If so, are there any special steps that must be done?

lelandaust


no, lelandaust! Running NT4 File Manager under 98se/ME WITH KernelEx installed results in error message "The WINFILE.EXE file is linked to missing export SHELL32.DLL:StrChrW". I've checked this myself and confirmed it.

Looks like KernelEx will need to be updated to include StrChrW function for SHELL32.DLL file, which the Win98/ME versions do NOT have (AND KernelEx will need to "patch" 98se/ME's shell32.dll file to make that possible).


erpdude8,

Would it be possible to copy NT4 SHELL32.DLL to Win98se, and thereby allow NT4 file manager to run? Is NT4 SHELL32.DLL incompatible with Win98se?

lelandaust

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I installed KernelEx 4.5 beta 2.

I had previously installed 4.0 but couldn't get anything to work. I uninstalled it and then installed 4.5 beta 2.

When I started up I got a message that said Kernelex installed and sucessfully and functional.

However, from then on, I get a dialog box saying "The kexbasen.dll cannot start. Check the file to determine the problem."

Needless to say, I don't know how to check the file.

System: Win 98 SE with SP2.0.

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Rainyd at http://www.msfn.org/...a-doesnt-start/ said he got Opera 10.6 to work.

I tried it tonight, build 3433, and got nothing but crashes from Opera.

I had set both the install program and opera.exe for XP SP2 compatibility.

I just installed it today, and so far nothing has worked for me on my system.

System: Win 98 SE, SP 2.0.

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I wanted to see if Corel Draw 12 might work.

I put the first CD ROM in my computer.

I searched the CD for .exe files and set them all to XP SP2 compatibility.

I then started setup.exe.

I immediately got an error message: 1607 Unable to install InstallShield scripting runtime.

System: Win 98 SE SP 2.0

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I installed 4.5 beta 2.

I installed VLC player 1.1.0, with compatibility mode to XP SP2. The install seemed to work.

However, when I try to execute the program, nothing happens. I see my disk activity light come on once, and my cpu activity goes from 1 % to 5% and quickly back to zero. I don't get any error messages.

System: Win 98 SE SP 2.0

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I installed 4.5 beta 2.

I installed VLC player 1.1.0, with compatibility mode to XP SP2. The install seemed to work.

However, when I try to execute the program, nothing happens.

System: Win 98 SE SP 2.0

Hi fortcollins,

VLC 1.0.5 & 1.1.0 are NOT working. :no:

Read posts #491 & #531 - #532 in this thread.

Last version I am using with KernelEx is 1.0.3

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Rainyd at http://www.msfn.org/...a-doesnt-start/ said he got Opera 10.6 to work.

I tried it tonight, build 3433, and got nothing but crashes from Opera.

I had set both the install program and opera.exe for XP SP2 compatibility.

I just installed it today, and so far nothing has worked for me on my system.

System: Win 98 SE, SP 2.0.

You don't need to set compatibility for Opera 10.60.
http://www.msfn.org/...chmark-results/

Did you tried Firefox 2 or 3?

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Can someone that uses KernelEx on Windows 98 S.E please give me step by step instructions on how to configure it to fool windows to think I have XP, and is it safe to try it for Vista?

Also do I need to install the Firefox user agent switch, and if so what are the best setting configurations to use?

Edited by frogman, 23 June 2010 - 05:38 PM.

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First post, so I'll start with a big thanks to Xeno86 for this useful software.

Just wanted to report that Firefox 3.6.4 is showing 100% CPU with KernelEx 4.5beta2 on Win98SE. Was installed in XP SP2 compatibility mode. No errors on command line or in the console. The browser works but hogs CPU. Reverting to FF3.6.3 for the moment.

Regards.

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First post, so I'll start with a big thanks to Xeno86 for this useful software.

Just wanted to report that Firefox 3.6.4 is showing 100% CPU with KernelEx 4.5beta2 on Win98SE. Was installed in XP SP2 compatibility mode. No errors on command line or in the console. The browser works but hogs CPU. Reverting to FF3.6.3 for the moment.

Regards.


Yes, I notice that too since the first build of Firefox 3.6.4 ;
and I notice when I browse a web page with flash contained, Firefox crash :(

(if I disable OOPP by changing all the "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled" value in "about:config" to "false" there is no crash and I can see the flash contained, but the CPU stay at 100%)
It seems like the "plugin-container.exe" don't run on W98SE even with XP SP2 compatibility set :}

Firefox 3.6.3 work fine but, I revert to Firefox 3.5.10 do to security issue .
;)

Edited by patclash, 24 June 2010 - 08:35 AM.


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As this is to do with KernelEx, can I ask you to look at my thread on the link I have placed below, then come back here and reply if there is an answer to it, many thanks.

http://www.msfn.org/...post__p__929196

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First post, so I'll start with a big thanks to Xeno86 for this useful software.

Just wanted to report that Firefox 3.6.4 is showing 100% CPU with KernelEx 4.5beta2 on Win98SE. Was installed in XP SP2 compatibility mode. No errors on command line or in the console. The browser works but hogs CPU. Reverting to FF3.6.3 for the moment.

Regards.


Yes, I notice that too since the first build of Firefox 3.6.4 ;
and I notice when I browse a web page with flash contained, Firefox crash :(

(if I disable OOPP by changing all the "dom.ipc.plugins.enabled" value in "about:config" to "false" there is no crash and I can see the flash contained, but the CPU stay at 100%)
;)


I too, can confirm this. Also, has anyone tried to install flash player 10.1? Installer crashes.

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.... Also, has anyone tried to install flash player 10.1? Installer crashes.


See this thread http://www.msfn.org/...ash-player-101/




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