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The installer may need version 3 of the installer system, which isn't available for Windows 98.


I just mention that this can also generally be bypassed by going to View/Summary Information in Orca and changing the Schema field value from 300 to 200. Already pointed out by Tihiy somewhere in this thread I think.

JoelC, there is no guarantee all NT/2K/XP programs will work because KernelEx is installed on your system, and this especially if those programs are working with low level NT stuff as I suspect yours might perhaps do.


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Here are all versions of Orca, including the older ones, supported in 98/ME:
http://www.mdgx.com/add.htm#ORCA

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@MDGx
Thanks as always for your input MD!
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I'd forgotten that the version of Orca I pointed Joe to wouldn't actually run on Windows 98! D'oh!

@JoelC
Unfortunately it looks as if your program just won't work under Windows 98, even with KernelEx installed.
Can't win them all I'm afraid, but at least we tried!
I can't think of anything else to suggest I'm afraid.
:)

Edited by Dave-H, 26 July 2010 - 09:06 AM.

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@JoelC
Unfortunately it looks as if your program just won't work under Windows 98, even with KernelEx installed.
Can't win them all I'm afraid, but at least we tried!
I can't think of anything else to suggest I'm afraid.
:)


No problem. I'm just fortunate that I can now use FireFox in Win98SE.

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KernelEx v4.5 RC 1
Release announcement


Fixed. Finally.


What's new:
  • Reworked 'Compatibility' tab to allow resetting compatibility settings to default values
  • Resources with high ID are disallowed when KernelEx is disabled
  • Platform check is now re-enabled when KernelEx is disabled
  • Fixed settings not applied for applications with international characters in path
  • Implemented get-post I/O completion ports functionality
Apps fixed / now working:
  • Fixed: MSYS (broken)
  • Fixed: Microsoft Access XP (crashing)
  • Fixed: Rally Championship '99 (crashing)
  • Fixed: GTA San Andreas (crashing)
  • Fixed: VLC 1.0+ (UI)
  • Fixed: Firefox 3.6.4+ (high cpu usage)
  • Now working: Adobe Flash 10.1 plugin
  • Now working: Mozilla Firefox 4.0 Beta 2
  • Now working: Artweaver 1.0
  • Now working: MPC-HC (newer builds, svn build 1391+)

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Xeno, great to see Release Candidate of KernelEx! :)

I must say, that changelog looks pretty impressive! :thumbup

Btw, special thanks for MPC-HC and VLC.

Edited by rainyd, 30 July 2010 - 04:01 PM.


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After installing KernelEx 4.5 RC1 each time I run Windows 98 Second Edition (Polish version) I get the message: "Błąd przy uruchamianiu programu Uruchomienie pliku KEXBASEN.DLL jest niemożliwe. Sprawdź plik, aby rozpoznać problem." ("The kexbasen.dll cannot start. Check the file to determine the problem.")

Attached File  capture_01082010_140254.jpg   19.98KB   8 downloads

There was no such an error in KernelEx 4.0 final2. I have the impression that KernelEx 4.5 works correctly, however, there may be a too small time limit?
I have a Pentium MMX 233 CPU, 128MB EDO RAM, KernelEx Core v4.5.11, kexbasen.dll file: version 4,5,1,1 / 4.5 RC1, 95,5kB (97 792).

Edited by egrabrych, 01 August 2010 - 06:08 AM.


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After installing KernelEx 4.5 RC1 each time I run Windows 98 Second Edition (Polish version) I get the message

First of all I would try to uninstall any version you have installed and do a fresh install of KernelEx.
If that doesn't help, report back.
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KernelEx v4.5 RC 1
Release announcement

Thanks Xeno86 for your work :thumbup !

My feedback:

1°) install KernelEx v4.5 RC 1 (after uninstall of previous version 4.5 beta 2):
so far so good :D
no bug or regression detected.

2°) run last VLC 1.1.2 (zip file, no installer, after I have deleted the %windir%\Application Data\vlc folder from old version):
Not working :no:
- program is launching
- menus are readable
but
- files are not running : I tried mp3, mp4 and wmv
- doesn't accept to change language of GUI
- shut off is broken: program stays in memory (I have to use Ctrl+Alt+Del to kill it), icon is still in the systray and I had a crash at reboot

3°) install Flash player 10.1.53.64 (ActiveX & Plugin, after uninstall of old versions):
- no need of any trick with registry, neither the
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"CurrentVersion"="5.1"
of Page 1, neither anyone else!
- twice are running smooth. :D Right versions are indicated in Adobe site.
- the Non-IE version is installed in %windir%\SYSTEM\Macromed\Flash,
and Opera had detected it at once.

4°) BTW, what is the use of the new "Disable custom heap" in the compatibility tab?

Later EDIT:
5°) I have the same problem with Maxthon that I had with new VLC 1.1.2:
if I have a few tabs open, it can freeze completely if I try to close all together, or it does not unload from memory when I shut it off, and I have to use Ctrl+Alt+Del to kill it. :(
Never had such problem before, but I can't say if it comes from new KernelEx or from Flash player 10.1.

2nd Edit:
I have tried to disable 'Hardware acceleration' in Flash settings, but it doesn't help.

3rd Edit:
New try after uninstall of Flash player 10.1
(only the ActiveX, for the reason that I have no bug with the plugin).
I thought to downgrade to last version 10.0
...but the problems are the same in Maxthon :angry: .

Edited by CharlesF, 02 August 2010 - 07:41 PM.


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Well, this kinda sucks:

The Win98 FreeCell solitaire game doesn't work with KernelEx 4.5 beta 2 or 4.5 RC 1.

  • Function keys do nothing
  • Display is corrupted when moving multiple cards
  • "Select game" menu option locks it up
  • Random lockups while playing
  • No crashes, therefore no drwatson log; sorry

And there's no compatibility tab on the Freecell.exe properties, so I can't just turn KernelEx off!

FreeCell runs fine if I uninstall KernelEx.

I realize a solitaire game isn't the biggest issue, but still :(

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Well, this kinda sucks:
The Win98 FreeCell solitaire game doesn't work with KernelEx 4.5 beta 2 or 4.5 RC 1.

Sorry, I just tried here
and don't have such corruptions:
function keys, Display, "Select game" function are OK.

Freecell.exe version is 4.10.1998

And there's no compatibility tab on the Freecell.exe properties, so I can't just turn KernelEx off!

Me too.

Edited by CharlesF, 03 August 2010 - 02:22 AM.


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Sorry, I just tried here
and don't have such corruptions:
function keys, Display, "Select game" function are OK.

Freecell.exe version is 4.10.1998


I have the same version. That's frustrating. :angry:

I even tried uninstalling and reinstalling with the 'disabled by default' option - still doesn't work.

I also have a minor bug in Reversi (old 16-bit game): the cursor is supposed to change to a cross on squares that are legal moves. It does, but it gets "stuck" - it stays a cross everywhere on the board.

Both work properly if KernelEx is uninstalled. Everything else I've tried seems fine with KernelEx, including other solitaire games and Firefox 3.5.8.

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I also have a minor bug in Reversi (old 16-bit game): the cursor is supposed to change to a cross on squares that are legal moves. It does, but it gets "stuck" - it stays a cross everywhere on the board.

Do you have a link for your Reversi, it's not a default game in Windows.

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Well, this kinda sucks:
The Win98 FreeCell solitaire game doesn't work with KernelEx 4.5 beta 2 or 4.5 RC 1.

Sorry, I just tried here
and don't have such corruptions:
function keys, Display, "Select game" function are OK.

Freecell.exe version is 4.10.1998

And there's no compatibility tab on the Freecell.exe properties, so I can't just turn KernelEx off!

Me too.


I thought there was meant to be a compatibility tab for all .exe files?

Why not in this case of Freecell.exe I wonder?
Windows 98 S.E - Opera 12.02 - Firefox 3.6.28 - Kernel-Ex 4.5.2 - Internet Explorer 6

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I thought there was meant to be a compatibility tab for all .exe files?

Why not in this case of Freecell.exe I wonder?

I think this is because it is 16bit exe, and Compatibility tab should appear for 32bit apps only. I thought KernelEx affects only 32bit apps...

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RC1 installed smoothly on my computer (simplified Chinese Win98SE with RP 9.6.5) without uninstalling Beta 2. Everything works as before

eDrawings 2010 works now. Thank you

Arora still does not work (invalid page fault of qtwebkit4.dll)

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I thought there was meant to be a compatibility tab for all .exe files?

Why not in this case of Freecell.exe I wonder?

I think this is because it is 16bit exe, and Compatibility tab should appear for 32bit apps only. I thought KernelEx affects only 32bit apps...


Not sure, maybe Xeno86 can confirm this.
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So far, no problems with the latest version of KEX. Can't get Flash player plugin 10.1.53.64 to install. The installer doesn't seem to do anything at all. Tried uninstalling the old version, no change. Does the latest flash plugin work with the 1X versions of SeaMonkey?

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So far, no problems with the latest version of KEX. Can't get Flash player plugin 10.1.53.64 to install. The installer doesn't seem to do anything at all. Tried uninstalling the old version, no change. Does the latest flash plugin work with the 1X versions of SeaMonkey?

You can install Flash Player 9, but use NPSWF32.dll from 10.1.

I can't get 10.1.53.64 to install due to an invalid page fault in kernel32.dll. But latest NPSWF32.dll works without problem.

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So far, no problems with the latest version of KEX. Can't get Flash player plugin 10.1.53.64 to install. The installer doesn't seem to do anything at all. Tried uninstalling the old version, no change. Does the latest flash plugin work with the 1X versions of SeaMonkey?

You can install Flash Player 9, but use NPSWF32.dll from 10.1.

I can't get 10.1.53.64 to install due to an invalid page fault in kernel32.dll. But latest NPSWF32.dll works without problem.


Can I ask if you can get Google Street View to work using that driver on this KernelEx release?

I know there is a separate thread for the google street view problem, but I post this in relation to the new KernelEx.
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OS ME, KEX 4.5 RC1, RP9.6.5 (Replaced default shell font with Tahoma)

1. Adobe Flash Player 10.1 works fine and I haven't any problems to install it. TOP

2. VLC 1.0.5 works on one machine fine and on the other is the font-problem present.
On the first I had installed the XP fonts. Maybe it's the reason.

VLC 1.1.2 plays mp4, mp3, flv, ogg after renew/refresh the Fontcache.
I also can't close the programm - I must use Ctrl+ALT+DEL.
This version doesn't play audio CD's - it crashes.

Edited by schwups, 03 August 2010 - 01:08 PM.


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Does the latest flash plugin work with the 1X versions of SeaMonkey?


Yes, I have SM 1.1.19 and latest Flash works smoothly with it (like with Firefox 3.5.11 and Opera 10.60).


As my observations:

I've problem with VLC - I can't use any of never versions (I've got error message with User.exe).

MPC-HC indeed works but you must use default render otherwise it crash (at least that happened in my case).

Firefox 4 Beta 2 running ok but I've tested it shortly (most of my extensions doesn't work).

Good news that latest Avidemux (2.5.3) works without problem.

Btw, anyone has tried Java 6 Update 21 (it doesn't work with KEx 4.5 Beta 2)?

Edited by rainyd, 03 August 2010 - 08:23 AM.


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Hello everyone,
finally i made it, im registered..
Just let me thank u inventor-guys for helping me to survive with my little machine untill now.. since i just use it for math-calculations and something like CAD, it still does its job right. The highest probability to get a software working is with open-source-software, since the "real" software often uses a new installer. So this is my fist question.. is there a way to deal with these installers, like "unzipping" or implanting, and why are those installers such a problem (for KEX, or what u might need)?!? For example this free CAD-Software wont install: SolidEdge2DDraft.
I still have other things on mind, concerning KEX..
First the hardware: ..I have win98SE GER-version, a gf4 ti 4800 videocard, 512 mb of ram, ...so u see, its a rather old machine, but it survived..
Then some essential? software:
-KEX, the recent one
-RP9.6, recent one, 32-bit icons installed but skins disabled (win2000 theme)*
-Auto-Patcher for Win98SE Dec 2008, seems to work fine
-win98se sp3 b4 ,german version: http://www.nandlstadt.com/win98sp.htm
-tweaked gf4ti-drivers 82.69, i have some problems, sometimes the Screen got black on startup -but removing the nvidia-stuff from the autostart fixed this. But then it seems like the screen is not refreshed correctly in some applications, this is fixed when i access the "Eigenschaften von Anzeige" -> "Einstellungen" -> "weitere Optionen" :).. I dont know how its translated on EN OSes, maybe something like: "Properties of Display" (in the system-controls) -> "Settings" (last tab) -> "further options". Sounds strange but it really helps. Can someone tell me why?!
-Net 2.0 with some updates
-MS visual C++ 2008, visula J# , i dont know if i really need those...
-Firefox 3.5.10, didnt know 3.5.11 was out now, firefox 3.6.x will not wirk with Java, right?!??
-Java 6u20, the last one that works, right??
-Flash 10.1, thanks to new KEX, BUT I CANNOT CONTROL THE SOUND-VOLUME!!!!! anyone experienced this?? flash 10.0.45 worked just fine.
-VLC 1.1.2, (*)ONLY works fine if themes in RP9 are disabled, the VLC-Guys even tell the win98 users to use KEX! nice!! ( with vlc 1.0.5 i experienced the usual "no fonts in options"-problem. what am i missing?? is there a needed font-pack somewhere?!?

well it became a rather long list.. is there someone to give me a hand with some of my problems?? or if there even is a completely different way, dont hesitate to tell me...
greets FlippX

Edited by FlippX, 03 August 2010 - 12:05 PM.


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I thought there was meant to be a compatibility tab for all .exe files?

Why not in this case of Freecell.exe I wonder?

I think this is because it is 16bit exe, and Compatibility tab should appear for 32bit apps only. I thought KernelEx affects only 32bit apps...

Freecell is 16 bit? Well, it did run on Win3.1, but you needed the Win32S package. In fact that's how you confirmed Win32S installed correctly.

Aren't there two different 32 bit .exe formats? Maybe Freecell is the older one....

Anyway, since it works on others' PCs, and it doesn't have a compatibility tab, I'm thinking the problem must be a conflict with something else, such as the display driver perhaps. (I did try a couple different display resolutions, and both 24-bit and 32-bit color, but it didn't help.)

I have a Matrox Millennium G200 display card. Anyone else have that card or something similar?

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I also have a minor bug in Reversi (old 16-bit game): the cursor is supposed to change to a cross on squares that are legal moves. It does, but it gets "stuck" - it stays a cross everywhere on the board.

Do you have a link for your Reversi, it's not a default game in Windows.

Yeah, it's from Win 3.0! Micro$oft used to have it posted, but no longer, apparently. However I did find it online here:
http://www.4shared.c...vC/REVERSI.html

That link doesn't include the help file, but that's not required. I downloaded it and it's indeed the correct file.

With KernelEx installed, the cursor problem is the only issue. Other than that it runs fine.




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