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#1081 User is offline   siria 

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Posted 12 February 2011 - 01:58 AM

Have not the slightest idea why, but those occasionally freezing windows I have too, only the mouse can be moved but absolutely nothing else works, not even the windows buttons. All dead. That's in K-Meleon1.6beta with gecko engine 1.9.1.x, but on my old 98se laptop that could be caused by anything, KEx or browser or gecko engine or way too little RAM with way too many tabs open, or some webpage content, or some setting or messing of mine, in browser or in system, and perhaps it would happen with other programs too if I'd use them more often ;-)
But there's a little workaround, so personally I don't mind anymore, ouff. Simply switching to another window in the task bar immediately breaks the freeze! Just a quick click on another window and right back to the current one, and it's "alive" again :-) Well, not always, but often.

This post has been edited by siria: 13 February 2011 - 01:45 PM



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Posted 14 February 2011 - 05:18 PM

works WebMoney Keeper Classic under kernelEx ?

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:05 PM

Hey is there an edited version of this thread or a way to download the whole thing as a single file with out going to each page and downing it and then putting the whole mess togther and then editing it..

I would like to either be able to prune out all the extraneous stuff and just have a list of how to use, what works, what doesn't work but works if you do this, what doesn't work with no idea how to fix it, and what will never work, ..... basicailly a simple users guide.

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 10:07 PM

View Postsiria, on 12 February 2011 - 01:58 AM, said:

Have not the slightest idea why, but those occasionally freezing windows I have too, only the mouse can be moved but absolutely nothing else works, not even the windows buttons. All dead. That's in K-Meleon1.6beta with gecko engine 1.9.1.x, but on my old 98se laptop that could be caused by anything, KEx or browser or gecko engine or way too little RAM with way too many tabs open, or some webpage content, or some setting or messing of mine, in browser or in system, and perhaps it would happen with other programs too if I'd use them more often ;-)
But there's a little workaround, so personally I don't mind anymore, ouff. Simply switching to another window in the task bar immediately breaks the freeze! Just a quick click on another window and right back to the current one, and it's "alive" again :-) Well, not always, but often.



I've seen this problem in windows that doesn't have kernalEX installed, I think it is a base memory problem in windows.

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 11:54 AM

Heyho,
there is this software called "LMMS" ( http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ ).
Someting like an audio-midi-sequencer I guess... Looks nice..
I couldn't try it because of this (roughly translated):
"The file LIBSNDFILE-1.DLL is connected with the missing Export-MSVCRT.DLL:___lc_codepage_func."
I think I never had an error of this kind... what is this "___lc_codepage_func" ?!
Comp.-mode doesn't help. Is there anything that might help?

My system is a win98se(ger) + everything official & unofficial like RP (no theme since themes lead to bugs with recent vlc-player for example), KEX, Autopatcher "dec2008" (seems to work great with the german version anyways..) & much from MDGx's site..

Bye
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Posted 26 February 2011 - 05:00 PM

View PostWindashnet, on 25 February 2011 - 10:05 PM, said:

I would like to either be able to prune out all the extraneous stuff and just have a list of how to use, what works, what doesn't work but works if you do this, what doesn't work with no idea how to fix it, and what will never work, ..... basicailly a simple users guide.

That's a good idea.
Could have a place in the Compatibility database of the KernelEx Wiki.

But you should read at least also this other thread: KernelEx App Compatibility Database ;) .

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 12:15 PM

Dear all,

Hello from France. When trying to install java updates 23 or 24, I have an error message "File is missing - GDIplus.dll has not been found" ---Till 22 it was working - I have uninstalled java and went up from 6 update 1 till 6 update 22 again without any trouble. and again same error message with both 23 and 24.

Any clue? I have tried to copy GDIplus.dll in several locations - no way to solve

I run win98SE with KEx 4.5 final - Had the same issue with RC4

Last versions of Flash and FF run perfectly

Thanks

This post has been edited by eesseell: 27 February 2011 - 12:22 PM


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Posted 27 February 2011 - 05:01 PM

Did you copy it into the windows/system directory, that's where it should be.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 12:03 AM

I remember dimly Adobe introduced with vers.23 some fundamental "new generation" plugins, which are very buggy on some systems... Can't remember details, but it was discussed somehwere here in the forum too... Still that java version contains also some alternative "classic" version of the dll's, which jump in and work fine if that stupid "new gen." plugin is disabled (deleted or whatever)... It's only lacking those "new" features, which were some "fully automatic" stuff that's IMO not really needed anyway...
NG-version is npjp2.dll, the classiv version is C:\Programs\Java\jre6\bin\npoji610.dll

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 01:28 PM

View Postloblo, on 27 February 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

Did you copy it into the windows/system directory, that's where it should be.



Hello,

Yes but doing that I have an error message : JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586 has generated a page failure in the module JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586.EXE at 0177:0040e5a6. (message in french, translated) - whjen I go with u22 it works .....

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:16 PM

NPSWF32.dll from FLASH PLAYER 11.0.0.58d incubator build also works with KernelEx 4.5 Final.

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 02:37 PM

View Posteesseell, on 28 February 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

View Postloblo, on 27 February 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

Did you copy it into the windows/system directory, that's where it should be.

Hello,

Yes but doing that I have an error message : JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586 has generated a page failure in the module JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586.EXE at 0177:0040e5a6. (message in french, translated) - whjen I go with u22 it works .....


Some people report the two latest JRE installer to crash, others don't. I am not sure why this is and even for those who don't report crashes the installation is not really too straightforward.

Have a look at this topic in case it may help: http://www.msfn.org/...re-6-on-win-98/

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 02:10 PM

View Postloblo, on 28 February 2011 - 02:37 PM, said:

View Posteesseell, on 28 February 2011 - 01:28 PM, said:

View Postloblo, on 27 February 2011 - 05:01 PM, said:

Did you copy it into the windows/system directory, that's where it should be.

Hello,

Yes but doing that I have an error message : JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586 has generated a page failure in the module JRE-6U23-WINDOWS-I586.EXE at 0177:0040e5a6. (message in french, translated) - whjen I go with u22 it works .....


Some people report the two latest JRE installer to crash, others don't. I am not sure why this is and even for those who don't report crashes the installation is not really too straightforward.

Have a look at this topic in case it may help: http://www.msfn.org/...re-6-on-win-98/


Dear all.

I faced the same situation as described by loblo in one of his message under the above referenced post "Here it goes like that with KernelEx installed for the latest java runtimes. I run the executable which seems to autoexit without doing anything. In fact it extracts an msi installer + cab file to a subfolder of C:\Windows\Application Data\Sun\Java named as the version to install. Then I run the msi installer from there and it installs normally. Just installed the newly released update 24 today, no problems". I have a crash when trying to install but msi file is here. I have run u23 msi and u24 msi without trouble. ...amazing ...
Thanks for your help

#1094 User is offline   Dave-H 

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 03:20 PM

Installed Java 6 Update 24 yesterday on XP and Windows 98 (dual boot machine).
No problems with it, but had to directly use the extracted msi installer on Windows 98 as described.
:)

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 05:20 PM

View Posteesseell, on 01 March 2011 - 02:10 PM, said:


Dear all.

I faced the same situation as described by loblo in one of his message under the above referenced post "Here it goes like that with KernelEx installed for the latest java runtimes. I run the executable which seems to autoexit without doing anything. In fact it extracts an msi installer + cab file to a subfolder of C:\Windows\Application Data\Sun\Java named as the version to install. Then I run the msi installer from there and it installs normally. Just installed the newly released update 24 today, no problems". I have a crash when trying to install but msi file is here. I have run u23 msi and u24 msi without trouble. ...amazing ...
Thanks for your help


This advice from WIN98SE also works for u23 and u24.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 12:44 PM

Explorer crashes by KernelEx?

During Win98SE boot I occasionally get an Explorer crash related to KernelEx. After closing the invalid page fault message, the taskbar restarts and windows works normal.

This is the crash message:
EXPLORER verursachte einen Fehler durch eine ungültige Seite
in Modul KERNELEX.DLL bei 024f:bfa0392c.
Register:
EAX=81d61254 CS=024f EIP=bfa0392c EFLGS=00010246
EBX=81d2ef24 SS=0257 ESP=00a6f840 EBP=00a6f894
ECX=52505c45 DS=0257 ESI=66801eae FS=40cf
EDX=0000001b ES=0257 EDI=81d910b0 GS=0000
Bytes bei CS:EIP:
8b 49 04 8b 51 34 3b f2 72 09 8b 49 50 03 ca 3b 
Stapelwerte:
81d2ef24 00000000 71000000 bfa07b3e 66801eae bff803ae 81d30020 bff803ae 81d2fe84 00000000 66801f14 bff76da8 71000000 00000000 66801eae 71000000

It may be also related to the SHELL98D bugfix (SHELL32.DLL update), because although SHELL98D has fixed nasty Explorer bugs in Win98SE, it has introduced a nasty new one.

When I drag and drop files between 2 Explorer windows (e.g. for copying saved E-Mail text files to diskette), Explorer often crashes so deep that it can not be restarted anymore. Any attempt of restarting Explorer or even selecting things from the quicklaunch menu pops up the same crash requester and restarts the taskbar. The only way to make Windoze useable again is to shutdown using CTRL-ALT-DEL, because also "shutdown" from quicklaunch only re-triggers the popup.

FineSSE displayed the following register contents:
Unhandled Eception in
Process Id: fffcd92f
Thread Id:   fff0d563

ExceptionCode:   c0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION)
ExceptionAddress: bfb93c65

Registers:
 EAX=002a005c CS=024f EIP=bff99b32 EFLAGS=00000246
 EBX=0059fba0 SS=0257 ESP=0059fb48 EBP=0059fb80
 ECX=ecbd3670 DS=0257        ESI=00000000  FS=357f
 EDX=bffc9490 ES=0257 EDI=e82897e0 GS=0000

Bytes at CS EIP:
  66 8B 39 66  8B 18 D1 EF  D1 EB 66 81  E7 EF 3D 66

Exiting after:
 0 Illegal Instructions
 1 Access Violation

(I had to type this in from a digicam photo since Windows in crashed state refuses to start anything to save it from clipboard to, but only restarts the popup. I hope I made no typos.)

Is this caused by KernelEx or SHELL98D? Can anybody decipher why it happens?

This post has been edited by CyberyogiCoWindler: 08 March 2011 - 12:48 PM


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 01:50 PM

View PostDave-H, on 01 March 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

Installed Java 6 Update 24 yesterday on XP and Windows 98 (dual boot machine).
No problems with it, but had to directly use the extracted msi installer on Windows 98 as described.
:)


Hi, can you help me with installing the latest Java on my Windows 98 machine.
I have KernelEx installed.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 02:43 PM

View Postfrogman, on 08 March 2011 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostDave-H, on 01 March 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

Installed Java 6 Update 24 yesterday on XP and Windows 98 (dual boot machine).
No problems with it, but had to directly use the extracted msi installer on Windows 98 as described.
:)


Hi, can you help me with installing the latest Java on my Windows 98 machine.
I have KernelEx installed.


Why not reading the post just above the one you quote? :w00t:

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 03:08 PM

View Postloblo, on 08 March 2011 - 02:43 PM, said:

View Postfrogman, on 08 March 2011 - 01:50 PM, said:

View PostDave-H, on 01 March 2011 - 03:20 PM, said:

Installed Java 6 Update 24 yesterday on XP and Windows 98 (dual boot machine).
No problems with it, but had to directly use the extracted msi installer on Windows 98 as described.
:)


Hi, can you help me with installing the latest Java on my Windows 98 machine.
I have KernelEx installed.


Why not reading the post just above the one you quote? :w00t:


I did, but when I find the msi installer and I open it I receive a windows message saying " This installation package could not be opened, contact the application vendor to verify this is a valid windows installer package".

This post has been edited by frogman: 08 March 2011 - 03:14 PM


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 03:31 PM

View Postfrogman, on 08 March 2011 - 03:08 PM, said:

I did, but when I find the msi installer and I open it I receive a windows message saying " This installation package could not be opened, contact the application vendor to verify this is a valid windows installer package".

What is in the folder with the msi file?
It needs at least a file called Data1.cab to be in the same folder or it won't work.
On my machine there are four other files in the folder, gtapi.dll, lzma.dll, OpenOffice_banner.jpg, and sp1033.MST, but I don't know how necessary they are to the installer.
:)

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