[herbalist]

Xeno86,
Could you be a bit more specific regarding "stalled"? I'm hoping that this means that you need a break from it or are short on time ATM, and that stalled doesn't mean stopped, done, or abandoned. Your KernelEX combined with Revolutions Pack have made 98 into an excellent and stable OS that far exceeds anything that MS ever did for it. IMO, they've made 98 just as much a viable alternative to the current versions of Windows as Linux is, without the need to learn an OS all over again.

[Steven W]

Just tried Sumatra PDF 1.5.1 portable, noticed that if I opened a PDF once, the program crashes, open it again it renders fine. If I change KernelEx compatibility to Win2k SP4, it works fine. It has something to do with the creation of (or adding entries to) sumatrapdfprefs.dat that occurs in the folder with SumatraPDF.exe when Sumatra opens a file.

This post has been edited by Steven W: 22 May 2011 - 03:07 PM

[CharlesF]

CharlesF, on 22 May 2011 - 08:06 AM, said:

Pdf Writer, is displayed as a printer and I don't know where to find it.

Xeno86,

I have done a search with Filemon in Maxthon, and I've found 4 files running for PDFWriter:
PDFWIN32.DLL
PDFWRITR.INI
PDFWLIB.DLL
PDFWRITR.DRV

Unfortunately, the only one with a KernelEx (compatibility) tab is PDFWIN32.DLL.
If I disable KernelEx extensions for this Dll (and reboot), it doesn't avoid the crash.

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For the 'Print preview', I don't know if there is a specific Dll that could be targeted.

Yet no idea for the Print preview.

This post has been edited by CharlesF: 24 May 2011 - 07:43 AM

[jds]

Xeno86, on 21 May 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

@Spunker88
Try to be more descriptive (VLC)

Encouraged by this report about VLC, I downloaded and installed version 1.1.9 and it worked just fine on my P3 machine with KernelEx default mode. So, nothing particular seems to be required, other than having KernelEx 4.5.1 installed.

Then I tried to do the same on my P2 machine (with P3CPU.VXD and FineSSE23.exe installed) but although it installs and initializes its font cache OK, it crashes when trying to display any video (no error message).

Joe.

[Usher]

jds, on 24 May 2011 - 07:09 PM, said:

Encouraged by this report about VLC, I downloaded and installed version 1.1.9 and it worked just fine on my P3.
[...]
Then I tried to do the same on my P2 machine (with P3CPU.VXD and FineSSE23.exe installed) but although it installs and initializes its font cache OK, it crashes when trying to display any video (no error message).

You should try to install VLC on Pentium II without P3CPU etc. You don't need these extensions for any application that I know. Newer apps are compiled for i686 architecture and it starts from Pentium Pro, see i686 processors list.

[jds]

Usher, on 28 May 2011 - 02:17 PM, said:

You should try to install VLC on Pentium II without P3CPU etc. You don't need these extensions for any application that I know. Newer apps are compiled for i686 architecture and it starts from Pentium Pro, see i686 processors list.

Well, P3CPU and FineSSE only come into play when an invalid instruction exception occurs. However, just for completeness, I temporarily removed these and tried VLC 1.1.9 again on the P2.

Unfortunately, same result. The main GUI appears and seems functional, but when a video is loaded, the player window appears for a fraction of a second, before VLC comes crashing down without any sort of error message (on restart, VLC says that it just crashed and offers to send a report).

So with KernelEx, I can get VLC 1.0.3 to work fine on my P2 (except that two colours are swapped, yuk!), but not VLC 1.1.9. Yet on my P3, VLC 1.1.9 works great. It may not be a CPU issue, but I wonder if anyone else has managed to get VLC 1.1.9 to work on a P2 (with KernelEx)?

Joe.

PS. Well, perhaps it is a CPU thing after all. All versions 1.1.* seem to have the same problem on my P2. And occasionally, FineSSE does report an illegal instruction : 63881DCD:0F AE F8 0F 77 8B 44 24:SFENCE =>90 90 90 0F 77 8B 44 24

This post has been edited by jds: 01 June 2011 - 09:11 PM

[jds]

jds, on 07 April 2011 - 08:21 PM, said:

KernelEx-4.5-Final causes a GPF when the DR-DOS 7.03 "lock.exe" utility exits :

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LOCK caused a general protection fault
in module LOCK.EXE at 0001:000001ee.
Registers:
EAX=01b70000 CS=57a7 EIP=000001ee EFLGS=00000246
EBX=17bf0228 SS=579f ESP=00001a7c EBP=00001a7e
ECX=004d579f DS=579f ESI=00000000 FS=5797
EDX=16d7022d ES=579f EDI=00000538 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
ff 1e e4 01 ff 1e e8 01 ff 76 04 90 0e e8 c8 fe
Stack dump:
1a880532 00000212 00000000 00b21a91 000057a7 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 1aac1aa1 1aa0000a 00001adc 1adc1aa1 00000000 1aa00004 1e940000

If you need a copy of this "lock.exe" utility (to reproduce this problem), DR-DOS 7.03 can be obtained ...

Well, a new clue : This errant behaviour is not present in KernelEx 4.0-Final2, but is present in 4.5-Beta2 and 4.5-RC1 and all subsequent "4.5" versions.

Joe.

PS. Hey, today this problem is gone! I applied the Unofficial Q932590 hotfix yesterday, so that must have done the trick!

This post has been edited by jds: 31 May 2011 - 06:49 PM

[rainyd]

Xeno, I'm really pleased that you've released 4.5.1 version.

Finally, it was possible for me to install and successfully run VLC Player 1.1.9 - then, I've updated it to the most recent 1.1.10 version.
Also some small glitches with one or two programs has disappeared.

Btw, I would like to know (like others as I guess) there's chance for next update in upcoming months?

This post has been edited by rainyd: 06 June 2011 - 05:52 AM

[schwups]

Has somebody already installed Java 6 Update 26? The msi install with an error: Javaw has caused an error in JVM.DLL. Javaw will now close.

It seems that the silent install of Java 26 doesn't run for me no more. 

Simply changing the two files (Javaw and JVM.DLL) to version 25 doesn't help.

[rainyd]

Yes, I've installed successfully update 26 using a silent mode.

This post has been edited by rainyd: 10 June 2011 - 02:57 AM

[schwups]

rainyd, on 10 June 2011 - 02:47 AM, said:

Yes, I've installed successfully update 26 using a silent mode.

Which KernelEX Version you have? I'd tried the msi installation on two machines with the same result. Did you tested Java26 with the pluginchecker?


If i try to start Java in the control panel a following error message appears:

Could not find the main class: com.sun.deploy.panel.ControlPanel. Program will exit.

The silent installation stops after my firewall asks to allow the internet connection. (shows the MS ProcessExplorer)

My System: ME, KernelEX 4.5.1, RP9.72

This post has been edited by schwups: 10 June 2011 - 03:53 AM

[rainyd]

schwups, on 10 June 2011 - 03:49 AM, said:

Which KernelEX Version you have? I'd tried the msi installation on two machines with the same result.

I have 4.5.1 version and Win98 SE.

Yes, it was tested on pluginchecker (Mozilla plugincheck too) and other sites and everything is ok.

Btw, I've uninstalled a previous version before I've started install a new one (offline installer).

This post has been edited by rainyd: 10 June 2011 - 04:16 AM

[schwups]

 I was able to install Java 6.26 on a third machine in silent mode, but it also doesn't work. I think it's the same error. Maybe it's related to Win ME. Perhaps some ME users could test it. 

This post has been edited by schwups: 11 June 2011 - 06:14 AM

[Dave-H]

Installed and working fine here on 98SE, using the msi installer.

[diamant]

Unfortunately I must report non-working Flash10.x (with severel Firefox-Versions, and even Opera tested), described here Firefox 2.0.0.20 with Flash 10.x Does not work, even with KernelEx 4.5.1. Installation of different Flash 10 version is no big problem.

But if I go to Adobe's Flash test page, I only get a white area instead of a "flash-box". This is also on all(!) other sites with flash content. I suppose Java JRE is not responsible. Also I suppose not the browser is the reason, because this occurs with different Firefox-Versions. I tried different KernelEx compatibility settings for the flash file NPSWF32.DLL, with no success.

So I don't understand why I always read in internet "flash 10 works with KernelEx in Win98SE" ?

Her this isn't so. I tested it on an old notebook with Intel Pentium III CPU and on my old PC with AMD T-Bred-B CPU.
What could be the reason?
- German Version of Win98SE (instead of the English one)?
- any missing system updates (which I don't know)?
- some removed Windows components (some of them with 98Lite)?
- missing Codec-Packs?
- wrong KernelEx version?
- wrong KernelEx settings for $browser.exe and/or the NPSWF32.DLL?
- wrong registry-entries?

For me, I must finally say "Flash 10 is not generally working on Win98SE, with unknown reason".

[loblo]

Six months ago the hardware requirements for Flash 10.1 were:

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Intel® Pentium® II 450MHz, AMD Athlon® 600MHz or faster processor (or equivalent)

http://web.archive.o...yer/systemreqs/

Today the requirements for Flash 10.3 are:

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Intel Pentium 4 2.33GHz, Athlon 64 2800+ or faster processor (or equivalent)

http://www.adobe.com...emreqs/#desktop

This most certainly means that a CPU supporting SSE2 instructions is now mandatory for running the latest Flash 10 builds whereas the earliest ones didn't even require CPUs having SSE support, Athlon 600Mhz having only MMX and 3DNow. I think you've got to find the most recent possible Flash 10 compatible with your CPUs on OldApps, FileHippo or any other similar website.

http://www.oldapps.c...lash_player.php
http://www.filehippo...player_firefox/

I might be wrong though but you'd better try that first and then report whether you can run earlier Flash 10 versions or not.

This post has been edited by loblo: 16 June 2011 - 01:50 AM

[TmEE]

I'm not sure if I got 10.3 installed or 10.2, but I'm using a Tualatin PIII and it only has SSE and so far things run... I recently had update happen this or last week so I think I got 10.3 installed, I got to verify it
EDIT: I got 10.3.181.26 installed, and it works without problems on my Tualatin

This post has been edited by TmEE: 16 June 2011 - 12:49 PM

[diamant]

loblo, on 16 June 2011 - 01:39 AM, said:

I think you've got to find the most recent possible Flash 10 compatible with your CPUs on OldApps, FileHippo or any other similar website.

http://www.oldapps.c...lash_player.php
http://www.filehippo...player_firefox/

I might be wrong though but you'd better try that first and then report whether you can run earlier Flash 10 versions or not.

I have tried different flash 10 versions - all with the same result:
A white area instead of flash box.

I tried even to disable Java to exclude it as reason for the issue.
For results on adobe's test page see the images attached below. Both images show adobe's test site, one with Flash 10 and the other one with Flash 9.
This is all with disabled Java. Flash 9 shows the version Info, Flash 10 does not so.

I dimly remember that I had installed an early Flash 10 version a long time ago, and that it worked at that time (without KernelEx and not stable, but I had a Flash box generally).

Could removed Windows components (with 98Lite) be the reason?
I have e.g. removed Windows' Shockwave Player, MS-XML-Support, msinfo and some other.
Is any of them required for Flash 10?

Attached File(s)

•  flash9.png (56.1K)
  Number of downloads: 10
•  flash10.png (54.17K)
  Number of downloads: 8

This post has been edited by diamant: 16 June 2011 - 04:42 PM

[loblo]

diamant, on 16 June 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

Could removed Windows components (with 98Lite) be the reason?
I have e.g. removed Windows' Shockwave Player, MS-XML-Support, msinfo and some other.
Is any of them required for Flash 10?

Perhaps but I don't think those you specifically mention should be an issue. Anyway, thanks to TmEE we know that the latest Flash 10 should run on your T-Bred Athlon so it's got to be something else than a CPU issue.

Perhaps you could try to see if the standalone Flash 10.3 projector runs on your system and if it doesn't, inspect it with Dependency Walker, including profiling it, as to perhaps get a clue why it doesn't work.

http://download.macr...layer_10_sa.exe
http://www.dependenc...pends22_x86.zip

You'll find a standalone Flash 9 projector in the archive below should you want to test it with dependency walker as well to see the eventual differences with the Flash 10 one.

http://fpdownload.ma...lus_archive.zip

Not sure all that Flash discussion has anything to do with KernelEx btw, and perhaps it should be moved to the other thread, your call DenCorso.

This post has been edited by loblo: 16 June 2011 - 10:18 PM

[diamant]

loblo, on 16 June 2011 - 10:17 PM, said:

diamant, on 16 June 2011 - 04:39 PM, said:

Could removed Windows components (with 98Lite) be the reason?
I have e.g. removed Windows' Shockwave Player, MS-XML-Support, msinfo and some other.
Is any of them required for Flash 10?

Perhaps but I don't think those you specifically mention should be an issue...

But perhaps other such Windows components, see below...

OK, I can tell news:
The issue seems to be solved!
It was definitely not a KernelEx problem. (That means, the discussion can be moved to the other thread.)

The problem was following:
I had removed ICM colour profiles with 98Lite. This included (or more precisely "excluded"...) the file Mscms.dll from the C:\Windows\System directory. File properties of Mscms.dll say "Microsoft Color Matching System DLL". I copied it manually back, and now all Flash 10 versions are able to work (in principle) on both computers, even on the notebook with Intel PIII CPU.
Heaven only knows why Flash 10 requires this mysterious file Mscms.dll, but Flash 9 does not .

Maybe oc_dt had the same problem (he described installed, but not working Flash 10).