[Xeno86]

NoNameNeeded, on Mar 13 2009, 04:41 PM, said:

You wanted problem reports, and I reported problems, that's about it...

How am I to know which programs are supposed to work with kernelEx or not?
Or how am I to know which programs you are planning to get running in the future?

I only named two programs that apparently don't work,

Maybe someone should make a complete list of all the programs that are supposed to work with KernelEx so that everyone can try out these specific programs.

Let me clear that out.
A problem would be if some program that is supposed to work under 98/Me stopped working after installing KernelEx or some program that was reported to work with previous versions of KernelEx stopped working or suddenly you get crashes or other issues.

Otherwise (as in your case) if you want to see some specific application working - you write a request to add support for some specific application.

Now imagine that we have a newcomer to this thread interested in running Firefox 3 on Windows 98/Me. Our newcomer starts reading the thread to get more insight and what he/she sees? Right from the second reply: FAILURES and PROBLEMS! How would you react? I would be MUCH more hesitant about installation...

I agree that a list of working programs is needed. Also a website for the project is needed to bring more attention to the project. Any volunteers?

[Xeno86]

Drugwash, on Mar 13 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

I suspect some conflict with PSDK.

I have fixed the confilict is SVN.

[saulius2]

Bugreport:

1. Windows Millennium [Version 4.90.3000]
2. KernelEx Core v4.0.11 [RC 1]
3. Mozilla Firefox v3.1b3
4. Input fields (edit boxes and HTML forms) prints wrong characters when my Language indicator shows I have switched to Lithuanian lang.
5. Run Firefox, press Alt-LShift, type some non-ASCII national characters and see wrong symbols instead.
6. Should I test this under KernelEx v0.3.6? If I disable support for FF3.1b3, then I am afraid FF won't work at all.

My regional settings are set to Lithuanian, but my system font probably doesn't support lithuanian symbols as I cannot switch the indicator when typing in a name for a new folder.

I am about to do some debug session. Any guidance? : )

[Drugwash]

Xeno86, on Mar 14 2009, 03:38 PM, said:

Drugwash, on Mar 13 2009, 03:55 PM, said:

I suspect some conflict with PSDK.

I have fixed the confilict is SVN.

Thanks, KEXBASES.DLL compiles fine now.

There are a few other minor issues, such as warnings and a compilation error for setupkex.exe in the debug version; apparently there's no definition for printf (mentioned in debug.h) anywhere on my setup: neither in PSDK, nor in VC98 or throughout the KernelEx project.

I have attached the complete log of a compilation session (both Release and Debug), as well as a patch for project files that includes Language neutral overall and changes some output paths for easier overview; hopefully someone finds these changes useful and fingers crossed I didn't do something stupid.

 KernelEx_log.7z (2.4K)
Number of downloads: 8
 kexproject_patch.7z (2.45K)
Number of downloads: 16

[tonich]

Steam doesn't install!

This post has been edited by tonich: 15 March 2009 - 07:35 AM

[Zenskas]

Good job man! Great to see people still supporting older operating systems. Firefox 3 on an OS that old??? Awsome idea to help security!!!

[gkar]

Any chance of getting Cinema Craft Encoder Basic to work using KernelEX?

[EvanD]

Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 doesn't work under 4.0 RC 1 for me. I've gone back to 0.3.6 and it works. On 98SE, I get a "Acrobat can't load core.dll" dialog as a start-up message and Reader 7.0 never loads.

[Drugwash]

Official eMule 0.49c won't finish any download. Final hashing always ends up in error "Unexpected error while completing <file name> [...] This function is only valid in Win32 mode". Uninstalling KernelEx 4.0.11 (official release, not a self-built version) fixed the issue.

[Chozo4]

So far so good with KernelEx v4.0-RC1. Haven't tested everything overall but I've noticed that a few programs were spitting out missing file notices after KernelEx update, Namely DWMAPI.DLL and MSWEBAPI.DLL. Downloading those files and putting them in their proper places resolved my issues with that.

To add a program better functioning:
--Trillian ASTRA
+Now correctly loads/saves certain configuration files and user data in their proper places (%windir%/Application data/Trillian) rather than in it's own install folder.
+Notification sounds are finally working.
+Crash dumps are now saved properly instead of the jumbled path '?<?rogram Files\trillian'

Issues encountered:
File: WINHELP32.EXE (v4.10.0.1998 - Stock Win98se)
Error: Looping of 'WINHLP32 caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:80000001'.
Resolution: Check in 'Disable KernelEx extentions for this program' under compatibility tab.

File: RUNDLL32.EXE (v5.1.0.2600 - Revolutions Pack 7)
Error: 'RUNDLL32 caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown> at 0000:80000001'.
Resolution: Restore stock RunDLL32.exe from installation CABS/CD using System File Checker.
Notes: This will disable the functionality of changing windows version in the first compatibility tab (RP7). Use the KEX compatibility tab (second one) instead for that purpose.

Drugwash, on Mar 18 2009, 07:36 AM, said:

Official eMule 0.49c won't finish any download. Final hashing always ends up in error "Unexpected error while completing <file name> [...] This function is only valid in Win32 mode". Uninstalling KernelEx 4.0.11 (official release, not a self-built version) fixed the issue.

Have you tried checking in 'Disable KernelEx extentions for this program' in the compatibility tab and seeing if that resolves it?



Note that this reply underwent heavy edits during some intial testing

This post has been edited by Chozo4: 19 March 2009 - 03:33 AM

[rustweaver]

Here are some glitches with Firefox 3.0.7 while using KernelEx 4.0 rc1 on Windows 98 SE

It looks like it messed up fading effect that gecko uses, but i'm not an expert and a picture is worth a thousand words:

This is how it looks like (with KernelEx 4.0rc1):





This is how it should look like (with KernelEx 3.6a):






There is also a strange problem regarding fonts in webpage editboxes, for example google:



I can paste character normally (from notepad for example), and it shows up alright in firefox, but when i try to type it in i get this missing character glyph. I tried to play with character encoding in firefox but to no avail, it only affected static text on page but had no effect on text in editboxes. It seems that only webpage rendering is affected as i can type that same character in firefox address bar and search bar without any problems.

With KernelEx 3.6a it works perfectly (it can be both typed in and pasted in without glitches):



I took that single character as an example but the problem affects all special characters from my locale (latin2)

I would also like to add that Punkbuster (pbsvc.exe) is crashing in both kernelex 3.6a and 4.0rc1 (and probalby in earlier versions too), disabling KernelEx for pbsvc.exe solves the problem.

P.S

Many thanks for keeping kernelex alive and kicking, it's a must-have for any win98 user these days

This post has been edited by rustweaver: 19 March 2009 - 02:39 PM

[Drugwash]

Chozo4, on Mar 19 2009, 09:54 AM, said:

Have you tried checking in 'Disable KernelEx extentions for this program' in the compatibility tab and seeing if that resolves it?

No, I'm pretty radical when it comes to stuff that negatively impacts software that works fine in regular environment. Will try next version when it comes out, if there's any mention of the eMule issue being fixed in the changelog.

[thydreamwalker]

Kex4.0rc1= Great........RUNDLL32.EXE......a little fast and shaky?

[PeterBluewin]

Realy nice job! Congratulations for Xeno85 and Tihiy. The software works greate. Ooo 3.0.1 and other software is now useable under W98. I miss a little documentation for the "Core.INI". For some situations I think is better to diable or Uninstall KernelEx. Also I miss a simple Uninstall-Function. To help to complete the list of usable programs I list my configuration as follow:

My configuration:
OS System Windows 98 Second Edition
MS Kernel Version 4.10.2222.2225
KernelEx-Version 4.0.1.0

Installed Programs:
7-Zip File Manager 4.64.0.0
Adobe Reader 6.0.4.2005072500 (6.0.2.126)
Adobe Flashplayer 11
Gimp Graphics 2.2.17
GTK+ (Gimp Environment) 2.6.10
Open Office 3.0.1
Sun JAVA Runtime Environment 6.0.70.6
PDFCreator 0.9.7
MS Windows Installer 2.0.2600.2
MS Media Player 9.0.0.2980

The VLC Media Player 0.9.8a (Open Source Media Player: http://www.videolan.org) dosn't work. Actual a dont know, its a problem of Videolan or a problem of KernelEX.

[aqcww]

PeterBluewin, on Mar 21 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

Xeno85

...be carefull,xeno86

[Laaca]

Works great for me!
Thanks for it. I was able to succesfuly run Google earth with it. (It didn't work for me with previous versions of KernelEx)

[Xeno86]

KernelEx v4.0 RC 2 released !

Now working on Windows 98/Me:

* The Chronicles of Riddick EFBB Demo
* QEmu 0.9

Fixed regressions:

* fixed Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 not working with RC 1
* .Net framework was broken in RC 1 now should work correctly
* input issue in Firefox 3 affecting special characters
* eMule couldn't complete downloads in RC 1, now fixed
* transparency issue in Firefox 3
* incompatibility with Norton Utilities

Detailed Changelog:

- fixed uxtheme version check
- added compilation instructions
- fixed msimg32.AlphaBlend bug incorrectly calculating transparency
- added kernel32.GetVersionW to default configuration
- added advapi32.OpenSCManager stubs
- implemented kernel32.GetConsoleWindow
- modified CreateFile, ReadFile and WriteFile so that they now accept overlapped flag
- fixed non-working MoveFileWithProgressA
- fix: DirectX setup has disabled extensions
- added psapi.EmptyWorkingSet stub
- change: KernelEx will first load any other MPRServices before initializing
- added workaround for situation where some kernel driver hijacked system functions
- added missing disable resource check fix
- removed GetMessageW from kexbasen (already in kexbases)
- fixed issue where installer wouldn't complete on fresh system
- fixed BSOD or crashes on shutdown on certain configurations by preventing early unload
- fixed compatibility sheet not working properly for shortcuts
- implemented kernel32.IsProcessorFeaturePresent
- fix: check if last element in merge list does repeat
- fixed compilation issue with PSDK 2003
- fixed Core not displaying error messages correctly

This post has been edited by Xeno86: 21 March 2009 - 02:17 PM

[herbalist]

At the moment I decide to try 4.0RC1, RC2 is released.
I have good and bad news. All of the 3.x versions conflicted with SSM free, which prevented me from seriously considering using Kernel EX. I'm happy to report that so far, 4.0RC1 and SSM free are getting along. I have a lot more testing to do but so far it's very encouraging.

Now for the bad news. I uninstalled RC1, rebooted, then installed RC2. After what appeared to be a normal install, the system rebooted, during which I got the following error message:

MPREXE caused an invalid page fault in
module KERNELEX.DLL at 016f:bfa07b7f.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=016f EIP=bfa07b7f EFLGS=00010246
EBX=81791cf0 SS=0177 ESP=0072fb80 EBP=0072fb94
ECX=00000000 DS=0177 ESI=bfa00000 FS=1cef
EDX=00000000 ES=0177 EDI=00000000 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
66 8b 48 10 8b 55 f8 8b 04 8a 83 c0 2a 89 45 ec
Stack dump:
0072fb88 817931a6 00000000 81799e64 828dc10c 0072fbac bfa0cfd0 bfa00000 00000001 00000000 00000000 0072fbc4 bfa07859 bfa00000 00000001 00000000

I've switched back to RC1 so I can check further into how well KernelEX and SSM are going to work together.
Rick

[herbalist]

Forgot to mention that Kernel EX was installed on lite98SE with IE removed.

[Xeno86]

herbalist, on Mar 21 2009, 07:54 PM, said:

Now for the bad news. I uninstalled RC1, rebooted, then installed RC2. After what appeared to be a normal install, the system rebooted, during which I got the following error message:
[...]
I've switched back to RC1 so I can check further into how well KernelEX and SSM are going to work together.
Rick

Thanks for the report.
Problem should be solved now.
Please re-download.