[cdoublejj]

will this make me use more ram?

[Philco]

eesseell, on Nov 14 2009, 01:29 PM, said:

Flash 10 - How I made it on 98SE!

Dear all. I have several times tried the proposed solution with xp.reg and unxp.reg and was not successfull, Flash always refusing to install because of non supported version. I then discovered that the double click was not adding the specified line in the registry.

Therefore i did it manually and it worked !!

What i did : run regedit and then hit "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion"
At that string, I have made "add new string" though right click
then I have typed current version for he name and 5.1 for the value

Now i have two strings defaut and current version under current version

After that change, flash 10 install worked and falsh 10 now works
...

At "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion" its string "RegDone" with "1". No problem?

[eesseell]

Hello Philco

Don't have this string under Windows NT but under Windows.

Regdone= 1 is a key for registration to allow download from microsoft sites - Should not bother flash install even if at Windows NT string.

Bye

[awergh]

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AGS... which uses the AGS engine (remember 90's sierra games Space Quest, Police Quest type games? Or games by LucasArts? well that's AGS).

I'm pretty sure those games weren't powered by AGS eg Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, Beneath a steel sky all used the Scumm Engine.
I think AGS just is able to do everything the engines at the time like Scumm were able to do.

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I couldn't run the installer for XP's IE7 or IE8 with KernelEX installed. Yet oddly other XP-level programs work. I even had "M.S. Office for XP" up and running for a while... only to switch back to Office 2002 when I found out how much additional bloat the XP version tended to install.

IE7 and IE8 are pretty much impossible to run on 9x, office 2002 and office XP are the same thing.

[mikefitzvw]

eesseell, could you please explain in very explicit, step by step directions exactly what you did to get Flash 10 to install? (or anyone else that understands)? Thank you very much.

As to making specific implementations of KernelEX aimed at specific programs, that is a fantastic idea. Perhaps specific versions for crucial programs (browser, antivirus, flash, and the like) and a general catchall like the one we have now. I would be glad to test a few (I'm not techie enough to make one myself though I'm afraid).

[eesseell]

Dear all,

Thought my explanations were clear, i will then try to be more precise.

1) Obviously I have Kernelex final installed

2) I have made a manual modification of the registry launching the regedit program via Start\Run (don't forget that I have a french Win 98SE and that I'm not familiar with the english names of commands)

3) Once the registry was open, I went tho the key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion"

4) I left clicked on that key to select it and at the same time to display on the right pane of the registry the strings associated to that key

5) I had only one which was "default"

6) still the key mentioned at point 3 selected, i have done right click, hitting "add new string value" command

7) then a new string appeared on the right pane with invitation to give a name - I have called that new string CurrentVersion

8) then I have double clicked on this newly created string (on the right pane) and entered 5.1 in the corresponding window

9) Then I have closed the registry, rebooted the PC and run Flash 10 install with success

Hope this helps - This is the usual procedure to make manuel changes to the registry

[mikefitzvw]

Sir you are a genius! I owe you a Coke.

[Steven W]

I installed Windows 98 SE on a friends PC, was using IE and viewing videos on pages that use the Windows Media plug-in to embed WMP 9 on the page...long story short something was wrong with the plug-in sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldn't. I decided to reinstall WMP, not even thinking about having KernelEx installed. I didn't uninstall the old version just reinstalled over it. During the "re-installation", an error came up about kex.exe. I wish I had payed a bit more attention. Anyway, it fixed the errors. All seems to work fine.

I'm kind of curious and also think someone may want to look into this. Does this trick the installer into thinking I'm running XP -- attempting to installing the NT (whatever differences that entails) version of the program? Would I, or anyone else for that matter, have problems if they did not reinstall over an existing installation? Can whatever is causing the message be fixed? Would there be any advantage in installing WMP 9 this way (assuming there are differences)?

This post has been edited by Steven W: 22 November 2009 - 11:45 AM

[EvanD]

eesseell, on Nov 21 2009, 10:16 AM, said:

Dear all,

Thought my explanations were clear, i will then try to be more precise.

1) Obviously I have Kernelex final installed

<snip>

7) then a new string appeared on the right pane with invitation to give a name - I have called that new string CurrentVersion

8) then I have double clicked on this newly created string (on the right pane) and entered 5.1 in the corresponding window

Note that Xeno86, the KernelEx author, recommends undoing the change after installing Flash 10. Other installations that work on Win9x (ver4.1) may not work if they think your O/S is XP (ver5.1). He provides the Regedit scripts for setting and un-setting CurrentVersion. See Post #2 at http://www.msfn.org/...-2-t130936.html

This post has been edited by EvanD: 23 November 2009 - 02:12 PM

[PROBLEMCHYLD]

Which do i use

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
"VersionNumber"="5.10.2600"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"CurrentVersion"="5.1"

i'm not sure.

[esotericmaniac]

----------About nasty Flash 10 & Win98------------
To this day I still can not make Flash 10 running on Firefox. Always errors and unsatisfactory results happens. My solution was to play flash 10 videos by using the old flash 9. Previously I posted here a link for downloading an edited flash 9 plugin for Firefox. But there was a problem - the playing of videos which require flash 10 begin to play after some pause of 10-15 seconds. So for 10-15s the CPU Usage is 100% and even the mouse is not moving smoothly. I know that Adobe's products are going better when one removes something from them. The previous time I just substitute the "version info" section of flash 9 with this of flash 10. Now I just removed the "JAVACLASS" section. It really got better. The pause of 10-15 seconds disappeared. Here is the link for those who want to try it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/311575409/Flas...for_Firefox.rar

[rustweaver]

PROBLEMCHYLD, on Nov 23 2009, 10:22 PM, said:

Which do i use

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion]
"VersionNumber"="5.10.2600"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"CurrentVersion"="5.1"

i'm not sure.

First one

[Steven W]

Xeno86, I have a request for support for an application. The Compatibility Pack for Word, Excel, and PowerPoint 2007 File Formats. You can see from my post here how to make it install and that it already gets a bit more functional with KernelEX.

http://www.msfn.org/board/compatibility-pa...ts-t140032.html

Thanks.

[commander-keen]

Foxit Reader doesn't start because it fails to call Winspool.drv:GetPrinterDataExW

Would be nice to see it working as current Adobe Reader versions after Reader 6.0 don't work and current PDF documents are showing up more and more which aren't interpreted correctly by v6.0.

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detai...mp;atid=1126916

Attached File(s)

•  foxitkernelEx.png (3.31K)
  Number of downloads: 6

[awergh]

Even if you did add the API needed for foxit reader to work this wouldn't fix the big problem of the huge GDI leak.

[Steven W]

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Would be nice to see it working as current Adobe Reader versions after Reader 6.0 don't work and current PDF documents are showing up more and more which aren't interpreted correctly by v6.0.

Has anyone tried Sumatra PDF? I can't at the moment:

http://blog.kowalczy...apdf/index.html (Says it requires 2000 or later, might work with KEx?)

It's based on (this is something else you may wish to try) mupdf. I can't quite make out the requirements on it:

http://ccxvii.net/mupdf/

Sumatra is essiantilly MuPDF with a nice interface.

This post has been edited by Steven W: 08 December 2009 - 11:46 PM

[noguru]

I'm still using Sumatra PDF 1.6 on Win98. It's functional but the "open" menu doesn't work, the only way to open files is by double clicking them, so you have to make it your default reader. The good thing is that it is very light, renders good and fast and is much more stable than that horrible GDI crunching Foxit.
Later versions don't have a menu at all on Win98.


correction: 1.6 -->0.6

This post has been edited by noguru: 15 December 2009 - 08:06 PM

[the xt guy]

noguru, on Dec 9 2009, 04:49 AM, said:

I'm still using Sumatra PDF 1.6 on Win98.

version 1.6? Really?

The latest version of Sumatra PDF is 1.01.

Could I borrow your time machine for a little drive around the space-time continuim? I'll only borrow it for (what seems like) a second.

BTW, the last version of Sumatra PDF that works on Windows 98SE (without Kernel EX) is 0.81.

This post has been edited by the xt guy: 09 December 2009 - 02:39 PM

[RetroOS]

There has been plenty of recent discussion regarding how to install Adobe Flash Player 10 using KernelEx (some interesting methods!).
However, the very simple install procedure has already been outlined by Xeno86.

Please everyone, read the first couple of posts of this topic!!!
For those who really can't be bothered, here is the key section quoted just for you!

Xeno86, on Mar 11 2009, 12:44 PM, said:

...
Despite changing Windows version in compatibility tab some programs complain about wrong system version. Example: Adobe Flash Player 10.

Solution:
Create "xp.reg" file in notepad with following contents:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"CurrentVersion"="5.1"

Double click on "xp.reg" file.
Install the program.
Create "unxp.reg" file in notepad with following contents:

REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion]
"CurrentVersion"=-

Double click on "unxp.reg" file.
...

On that note, Adobe Flash Player 10.0.42.34 installs and works, both Plugin and ActiveX.

ActiveX: http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplaye...h_player_ax.exe
Plugin: http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplaye...lash_player.exe

patclash, on Nov 26 2009, 07:10 AM, said:

Thunderbird 3 Release Candidate 1 work well on W98SE with KernelEX
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taunus20m, on Dec 7 2009, 07:08 AM, said:

Now working on Windows 98SE:
...
* Thunderbird 3.0 beta
...

Well, the prerelease versions of Thunderbird 3.0 may have worked, but the final release does not work for me...
When it runs, all the graphics and text are messed up - mainly just blocks of colour...

RetroOS, on Dec 17 2009, 08:12 AM, said:

Roberx, on Dec 13 2009, 09:24 AM, said:

Thunderbird 3 official release working with Win 98 FE!

I had to set KernalEx compatibility to Windows 2000 SP4 on Thunderbird.exe to get the window to display properly.

Yes, I can confirm this too on Windows 98SE.
The installer needs to be set to Windows 2000 SP4 compatibility, and then thunderbird.exe before the first run.

However, Thunderbird 3.0 has the same printing failure as Firefox 3.x.x.
From what I understand, older Linux kernel versions also have printing failure with Firefox 3.x.x (and therefore Thunderbird 3.0).
This makes sense because newer printing functionality is used that does not exist in older OSes.

Addition:

RetroOS, on Dec 12 2009, 08:57 AM, said:

...
GnuPG 1.4.10 no longer installs on Win9x, so:

LAST - FREE - GnuPG (The GNU Privacy Guard) 1.4.9 --- ftp://ftp.gnupg.org/...32cli-1.4.9.exe

GnuPG 1.4.10 will install and work correctly with KernelEx, when the Compatibility tab for the installer is set to Windows XP SP2.

This post has been edited by RetroOS: 16 December 2009 - 01:16 PM

[x64igor]

Would you consider implementing support for unicode notifications LVN_GETDISPINFOW (for listviews) and TTN_GETDISPINFOW (for tooltips)?

LVN_GETDISPINFO is sent by a list-view control to its parent window, message is sent when list-view control has style LVS_OWNERDATA. Unicode app expects notification LVN_GETDISPINFOW but list-view control sends LVN_GETDISPINFOA, so list-view ends up without any strings.

TTN_GETDISPINFO is not that important, but those two messages are very similar so if you manage to implement one it should not be too hard to implement other one as well.