[WIN98SE]

rainyd, on 03 August 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

Interesting because in my case, works only method mentioned by WIN98SE (of course I have disabled next generation Java-plugin).

In fact, I haven't tried to install new version over previous one.

Btw, it's good to hear, that latest Java works with Firefox 3.6.8 (Moziila will end soon supporting Firefox 3.5.x).

It is really a bug of the new Java 6.21. It does not unregister the NextGenPlugin for Mozilla-Browsers correctly.
I tested it with Seamonkey 1.1.19 and Firefox 3.5.11
Maybe EvanD's NextGenPlugin was already "unregistered" before the update to 6.21.
I really do not have a clue how to unregister a Mozilla-plugin.

But I do not believe that Java works with Firefox 3.6.8.
I thought Firefox 3.6.8 only works with the NextGenJavaPlugin.
I tested it with http://pluginchecker.com/

[herbalist]

Xeno
The direct link is the same file. If I disable KernelEX, I get the message about expecting a newer version of Windows. With the settings on the compatibility tab set to anything other than disabling KernelEX, nothing happens when I try to launch the installer, save a momentary cursor change to the hourglass. No error messages, no changes to anything. It's not System Safety Monitor blocking the process. This system has been stripped down, both with 98lite and by manually removing other files. I've probably removed something that it needs.

[Mathwiz]

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

I have just checked FreeCell and Reversi on two systems. I can't replicate those problems on any of them.
Can you check if the problem is there with last stable release - KernelEx 4.0 Final 2 ?

Just checked. Both games run perfectly under KEX 4.0 Final 2. (Of course they run perfectly under KEX 4.5 for everyone but me)

Of course, now I have to uninstall 4.0, reinstall 4.5, start Dr. Watson, etc. Maybe tomorrow night.

[CharlesF]

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:56 PM, said:

CharlesF, on 02 August 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

2°) run last VLC 1.1.2: Not working

I'll look into that.

Thanks.

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:56 PM, said:

CharlesF, on 02 August 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

5°) I have the same problem with Maxthon that I had with new VLC 1.1.2

What is the version of Maxthon that you use.
What system, IE version.
Was this problem introduced in RC 1 or earlier?

Pentium III 500 MHz - 384 MB RAM
Win 98SE french - SP3.0 beta4 - MDIE6CU 3.4 - RP 9.6.5

Maxthon 1.6.5.18
(All versions are available here: http://dl.maxthon.cn/mx1/
No need to install, you can decompress (I use Universal Extractor) and run straight.)

Never had this problem before. Running just fine with KernelEx 4.5 beta2 (but no need of KernelEx to run with Win 98).

I have tried with an old version (MyIE2 0.9.27),
but it's the same: no glitch without RC1, incomplete shut off if a few tabs are open with RC1.


BTW, Newer version 1.6.6 and 1.6.7 of Maxthon doesn't launch (I mean even before RC1)
for the reason that it is giving an error:
Missing exportation SHELL32.DLL: SHBindToParent.

Is it possible to fix it with KernelEx ?


Later EDIT: I have downgraded (after clean uninstall) to KernelEx 4.5 beta 2
with Flash Player 10.0.45.2 ActX and Plugin.
Maxthon has come back smooth and fine like I always was use to .

This post has been edited by CharlesF: 05 August 2010 - 06:12 AM

[EvanD]

schwups, on 04 August 2010 - 05:27 AM, said:

I can't confirm EvanD that Java 1.6.21 works with Firefox 3.6.8.
It works up to Firefox 3.5.11 (and Opera 10.1), if I rename "new_plugin"
(see Member WIN98SE before).
The plugin checks fails with Version 3.6.8.!
pluginchecker.com / www.java.com/de/download/installed.jsp
Note: I don't allow the internet Connection to install Java.

In my post #680 the java JRE file is a standalone 15.3MB download from filehippo.com (links are in the post). When it installs, I get the "not-supported O/S warning" on a new Oracle (as opposed to Sun) dialog which I ignore and then go ahead and complete the install. The result in "about:plugins" is as shown. The paths and file names shown may be a clue to help.

Over the years, I've added all kinds of unofficial SPs and patches from MGDX.com so I can't tell you why my system works and yours doesn't. The stuff we do to our Win98SE and ME systems makes them all different. As a result, we're all dependent upon the gurus; e.g., Xeno86 and/or Tihiy for solutions to our problems. Regardless of whether they solve our individual problems or not, they've done wonderful work with KEX in keeping 98SE and ME existing as living O/S's. Whatever I'm able to make work from their efforts, I greatly appreciate while recognizing that there are limits to what they want to do or to what they're able to do. Kudos to them for everything they've done!

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[rainyd]

Sorry, EvanD, but it's not a proof. I could show you exactly the same picture from my Firefox 3.5.11 (it means only that Java 6 update 21 was installed on your PC).

Have you tested Firefox 3.6.8 and Java on such sites?

http://www.javatester.org/ or http://www.java.com/...help/testvm.xml

This post has been edited by rainyd: 04 August 2010 - 04:32 PM

[FlippX]

Hey,
the new flash (10.1) actually works, but i cannot change the soundvolume in firefox, SOMETIMES!
and VLC 1.1.2 works (only without RP9), but it just always adds the songs, or the radiostations i click on to the playlist (this is not enabled in the options) instead of starting a new playlist with the recent song on top...
Flash 10.0.45 and VLC 1.0.3 both are fully functional!!

[CharlesF]

FlippX, on 05 August 2010 - 12:58 PM, said:

VLC 1.1.2 works (only without RP9)

What do you mean?
Have you uninstall entirely the Revolutons Pack to get it work?

FlippX, on 05 August 2010 - 12:58 PM, said:

Flash 10.0.45 and VLC 1.0.3 both are fully functional!!

They were already fine with previous release 4.5 beta 2

[Mathwiz]

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

Mathwiz, on 02 August 2010 - 11:48 PM, said:

Well, this kinda sucks:

The Win98 FreeCell solitaire game doesn't work with KernelEx 4.5 beta 2 or 4.5 RC 1.

I have just checked FreeCell and Reversi on two systems. I can't replicate those problems on any of them.
Can you check if the problem is there with last stable release - KernelEx 4.0 Final 2 ?

Both work fine under 4.0 final 2. But just to be thorough, I tried 4.5 beta 1. Freecell and Reversi experience the same problems (except F2 for new game works in Freecell).

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

Could you provide a DrWatson log with FreeCell running?

Here's what I did:

• Started DrWatson
  
• Started FreeCell
  
• Selected Game / Select Game... from the menu (this always locks FreeCell up under KernelEx 4.5)
  
• Clicked the DrWatson icon and saved a snapshot (attached)
  
• Hit Ctrl-Alt-Del and ended FreeCell then shut DrWatson down
  
• Started Firefox to post this

Ugh. Site is telling me "Error You aren't permitted to upload this kind of file". What's the best way to send it to you?

Xeno86, on 03 August 2010 - 12:27 PM, said:

Can you make a screenshot of that display corruption?

Not sure the best way to do that in Win98. In WinXP which I use at work, I'd just hit Alt-PrtSc and it copies the active window to the clipboard.

Can someone recommend a free screenshot grabber for Win98? I'd hate to try a digital camera!

[awergh]

Supposably 98 is supports ALT+PRINT SCREEN according to this 

http://technet.micro...y/cc768168.aspx

however that doesn't appear to be the case the easiest thing to do is just take a screenshot normally with PRINT SCREEN

and then resize the screen shot with irfan view or some other image editor

[Queue]

Alt + Print Screen works on 98SE, I use it all the time. Just have the window you want the image of selected, press the key combination, open something like Paint, and paste. Both Print Screen and Alt + Print Screen can be limited / impaired by some sort of resource limitations under various circumstances.

Queue

[FlippX]

CharlesF, on 05 August 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

What do you mean?
Have you uninstall entirely the Revolutons Pack to get it work?

No I only didn't use RP9-themes. So only the "(classic)" theme works.
But instead of adding songs to the playlist and playing them, VLC adds them and restarts the playlist from the beginning...
...well everything around the graphics (in options and so on) works now...

AM I the only one with flash 10.1 problems, anyways???

This post has been edited by FlippX: 06 August 2010 - 11:08 AM

[rainyd]

FlippX, on 06 August 2010 - 09:22 AM, said:

AM I the only one with flash 10.1 problems, anyways???

No you're not alone - I have some distortion with sound, which I don't have with previous version of Flash (10.0.45.2).

[Mathwiz]

awergh, on 06 August 2010 - 12:36 AM, said:

Supposably 98 is supports ALT+PRINT SCREEN according to this 

http://technet.micro...y/cc768168.aspx

however that doesn't appear to be the case the easiest thing to do is just take a screenshot normally with PRINT SCREEN

and then resize the screen shot with irfan view or some other image editor

Queue, on 06 August 2010 - 12:54 AM, said:

Alt + Print Screen works on 98SE, I use it all the time. Just have the window you want the image of selected, press the key combination, open something like Paint, and paste. Both Print Screen and Alt + Print Screen can be limited / impaired by some sort of resource limitations under various circumstances.

Queue

Thanks guys. I couldn't get Alt-PrtScrn to work last night, so tonight I'll just try a regular Print Screen. If that works then I'll clip down the image. Hopefully MSFN.com will let me upload that, at least.

[rainyd]

Xeno86, on 06 August 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

While I can confirm that it is not currently possible to change sound volume during video playback, I can't confirm any kind of distrotion.
Can it be heard on all videos and animations?

To be precise, it's rather some sort of noise (not very annoying) - mainly songs on YT.

Xeno86, on 06 August 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

As for now there is no way to run the "new generation" plugin on 9x, while I'm looking into the issue I can't promise to fix it fast as it requires major work (named pipes interprocess communication support).

I think, we don't expect miracle - KEx is an amazing piece of work and we are really grateful for it to you and Tihiy.

[EvanD]

rainyd, on 04 August 2010 - 04:29 PM, said:

Sorry, EvanD, but it's not a proof. I could show you exactly the same picture from my Firefox 3.5.11 (it means only that Java 6 update 21 was installed on your PC).

Have you tested Firefox 3.6.8 and Java on such sites?

http://www.javatester.org/ or http://www.java.com/...help/testvm.xml

You're right, with Firefox 3.6.8 on javatester.org, the applet test fails. However, JRE u21 works on all the sites I normally go to including the Flash test which, from previous msfn.org discussions, I was led to believe requires some form of a java applet to work (isn't that why we uncheck "new java plugin?").

For IE6, JRE u21 does work. See figure. It does not work for Seamonkey 1.1.19.

I plan to keep JRE u21 for a while until I run in to a practical problem. When that happens, I'll revert back to u20.

Thanks for alerting me to try the direct Java applet test; at least I now know there's a potential problem lurking ahead. Is there something I should be wary of?

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[rainyd]

EvanD, on 06 August 2010 - 04:38 PM, said:

You're right, with Firefox 3.6.8 on javatester.org, the applet test fails. However, JRE u21 works on all the sites I normally go to including the Flash test which, from previous msfn.org discussions, I was led to believe requires some form of a java applet to work (isn't that why we uncheck "new java plugin?").

For IE6, JRE u21 does work. See figure. It does not work for Seamonkey 1.1.19.

I plan to keep JRE u21 for a while until I run in to a practical problem. When that happens, I'll revert back to u20.

Thanks for alerting me to try the direct Java applet test; at least I now know there's a potential problem lurking ahead. Is there something I should be wary of?

That quite interesting: it means that latest Java could work on some sites (or not) with Firefox 3.6.8.
Yes, it's a right picture but because I do not using IE 6.0, it is a minor success IMO.

I would advice you, to try just much as possible various Java oriented sites.

Btw, have you checked http://www.pluginchecker.com/ mentioned by WIN98SE/schwups?

This post has been edited by rainyd: 06 August 2010 - 05:45 PM

[Joseph_sw]

KEX-4.5-RC1 is cool, regsvr32 now works properly for many .ocx/.dll,
for example: 'regsvr32 flash10h.ocx' now just simply works.

however, this release also raises (std::bad_alloc &) exception error, that makes M.A.M.E decided to terminate its process.
Mame source-code: http://mamedev.org/release.html
i'm using MemeUI32 which is a Mame front-end that integrated with the main mame core: http://www.mameui.info/

the exception error doesn't happen if i fall back to KEX-4.5-Beta2.

codes from mame's machine.c

...

	catch (std::bad_alloc &)
	{
		mame_printf_error("Out of memory!\n");
		error = MAMERR_FATALERROR;
	}

...

Mame gives me "Out of memory!" messages box error when i tried to run the roms, with Kex 4.5 RC1.

[CharlesF]

Xeno86, on 06 August 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

VLC 1.1 and Maxthon issues are being worked on as well.

Thanks Xeno86 !

[Mathwiz]

Well, after all that sturm und drang Alt+PrtSc worked! And this site let me upload a .jpg of the freecell game showing the corrupted display. The top left cell should be blank, but instead shows weird partial card images.

I found a pattern in the lockups: they occur when freecell tries to display a dialog box (select game, move column vs. move single card, etc.)

Dr. Watson log is at http://www.speedysha...35/freecell.wlg

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This post has been edited by Mathwiz: 07 August 2010 - 09:09 PM