[frogman]

Steven W, on 26 November 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

CyberyogiCoWindler, on 26 November 2010 - 06:35 PM, said:

frogman, on 26 November 2010 - 01:29 PM, said:

Possible bug report,

I appear to be missing bookmarkbackup.interval on the about:config on Firefox 3.6.12.

Anyone with KernelEx installed that use this version of Firefox if they could confirm the same please.

My Firefox 3.6.12 lacks it too. (KernelEx 4.5 RC5)

Well, it must be a super-serious bug, my XP system lacks it too.

Edit: Try installing Bookmark Backup and see if that's what you're looking for. Here's a link:

http://www.pikey.me....ddon=bb&page=16

Yeah you are right, one must install that add on to get this added to the config.

Thanks again.

[CharlesF]

Tihiy, on 25 November 2010 - 02:51 PM, said:

CharlesF, Pari_IT, other ppl having printer problems, please give us your printer drivers.
It's more like Epson related

Hi Tihiy,

thanks to take an interest to this problem.

I have uploaded 3 Drivers:
- EPSON Printer Stylus Photo 870 [version 5.0cF_9598Me]: I don't use anymore this printer (it is not even connected) but driver is still installed;
- EPSON Scanner Perfection 1200 USB [Twain winme version 5.5g];
- HP Printer Laser Jet 1020-1022-PCL5-win9x-fr

at that link: http://dl.free.fr/hwYGSpFsd

I am right now with KernelEx 4.5 RC4 installed, but if necessary I could reinstall RC5 and try to:
* uninstall of the EPSON Printer driver, to see if it helps,
* use the EPSON Scanner to know if KernelEx is freezing it also.

[quist]

MagicJack
Plugged it in, Win98se loaded all drivers, device shows up in file explorer and two usb devices in Device Manager (USB Disk -TigerJet HardDisk G: and USB CD-ROM -TigerJet CDROMH:), got dial tone.
magicJackLoader.exe did not auto start (note: on XP it has a desktop link), so started it manually - got OS error. changed compatiblity to XP SP2 and then it started (at least dos tlist command showed it was loaded) but no proceed.
Manually started magicJack.exe in same mode...2 error boxes

C:\Windows\Application Data\mjusbsp\magicJack.exe
A device attached to the system is not functioning.

magicJack.exe file is linked to missing export avicap32.dll:capGetDriverDiscriptionW.

avicap32.dll version 4.03.1998
Windows98se, Kernelex 4.5 RC5
just for grins

Fantastic job!, no real problems to report. Even Epson Stylus CX5000 printer is working fine.

[Pari_IT]

Hi Tihiy
After 1/2 ream of paper and an ink cartridge I am still struggling to define the cause of my problems
1. the result is constant......print box appears....you click print.....system locks
2. 3 fingered salute gives programme not responding...click end task and desk top comes back with no task bar.....but is dead.....power off is only way to recover
3. using all upgrades in this forum
4. printer CX3100 driver EPIJNL60.drv
5.no kernelex all ok but obviously no firefox 3.6.12
6. kernelex 4.5 rc4 firefox but no print straight to lockup after printbox
7. kernelex 4.5 rc5 firefox prints normaly ...close firefox.....print from elsewhere ok...restart firefox lockup..power off...restart...print from firefox lockup
8. firefox would not print directly to printer...needed to be spooled
9. problem seems to be in spool/firefox/epson areas
10. this is an improvement...earlier kernelex either printed nothing or black bands although no lockup
11. have tried all tricks in this forum
12. am I expecting to much? but browser that doesn't print is of limited use

HTH

[Steven W]

quist, on 27 November 2010 - 07:03 PM, said:

MagicJack
Plugged it in, Win98se loaded all drivers, device shows up in file explorer and two usb devices in Device Manager (USB Disk -TigerJet HardDisk G: and USB CD-ROM -TigerJet CDROMH:), got dial tone.
magicJackLoader.exe did not auto start (note: on XP it has a desktop link), so started it manually - got OS error. changed compatiblity to XP SP2 and then it started (at least dos tlist command showed it was loaded) but no proceed.
Manually started magicJack.exe in same mode...2 error boxes

C:\Windows\Application Data\mjusbsp\magicJack.exe
A device attached to the system is not functioning.

magicJack.exe file is linked to missing export avicap32.dll:capGetDriverDiscriptionW.

avicap32.dll version 4.03.1998
Windows98se, Kernelex 4.5 RC5
just for grins

Fantastic job!, no real problems to report. Even Epson Stylus CX5000 printer is working fine.

I'm curious quist, In the Device Manager (Under Sound Devices), does USB Internet Phone show up as installed properly? If so, can you open a sound recording program, like Soundrec or Audacity and record your voice from the phone?

If you try this, you may have to select the device in the Volume Control.

This post has been edited by Steven W: 27 November 2010 - 11:54 PM

[Tihiy]

Pari_IT No, Firefox 3+ can't print, sorry. Do you have problems with printing from other apps with KernelEx?

[quist]

Steven W, on 27 November 2010 - 11:46 PM, said:

I'm curious quist, In the Device Manager (Under Sound Devices), does USB Internet Phone show up as installed properly? If so, can you open a sound recording program, like Soundrec or Audacity and record your voice from the phone?

If you try this, you may have to select the device in the Volume Control.

Not USB Internet Phone, but it shows up as USB Audio Device...working properly.
Using Windows sound recorder (sndrec32.exe) and as you suggested, opening sndvol32.exe, the device Handset came up in the control. Ticking record shows an entry named Unknown, selected it and turned the volume up - hit record and the dial tone stopped, so I said "Watson come here" in the handset and could see it recording. Pushed play expecting to hear it through the comps speakers, duh...yes, it played back fine in the handset. So it would appear the drivers can handle it, but (as you probably know) without the program you can't dial.

[Tihiy]

You can hex-edit and change capGetDriverDiscriptionW to capGetDriverDiscriptionA and capCreateCaptureWindowW to capCreateCaptureWindowA and MagicJack will start but won't work properly (error connecting to servers).

[frogman]

Sorry folks, but I have just noticed that I am unable to print from web pages on either of my browsers I.E6 or Firefox 3.6.12

Would enabling Firefox and I.E to Windows 98 compatibility mode help in this issue?

EDIT,

I just tested I.E and set it to Windows 98 compatibility mode and it let me print pages, so that should work on FF hopefully.

Nope, no luck with that.

This post has been edited by frogman: 28 November 2010 - 09:49 AM

[frogman]

Tihiy, on 28 November 2010 - 03:19 AM, said:

Pari_IT No, Firefox 3+ can't print, sorry. Do you have problems with printing from other apps with KernelEx?

Hi, I take it this is a KernelEx issue then?

I suppose I can just print using I.E as it seems to be ok with that particular browser.

[quist]

Tihiy, on 28 November 2010 - 06:58 AM, said:

You can hex-edit and change capGetDriverDiscriptionW to capGetDriverDiscriptionA and capCreateCaptureWindowW to capCreateCaptureWindowA and MagicJack will start but won't work properly (error connecting to servers).

I just tried that, coming out of dos after renaming my blackbox.exe shell wouldn't load, lol.

Btw, RC5 works great with Opera 10.63, which prints web stuff on an Epson w/ no prob.

[frogman]

quist, on 28 November 2010 - 11:37 AM, said:

Tihiy, on 28 November 2010 - 06:58 AM, said:

You can hex-edit and change capGetDriverDiscriptionW to capGetDriverDiscriptionA and capCreateCaptureWindowW to capCreateCaptureWindowA and MagicJack will start but won't work properly (error connecting to servers).

I just tried that, coming out of dos after renaming my blackbox.exe shell wouldn't load, lol.

Btw, RC5 works great with Opera 10.63, which prints web stuff on an Epson w/ no prob.

Am I right in saying that printing web pages using Firefox 3.6.12 isn't possible whether KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 is installed or not?

My printer is an Epson Style Colour Printer 680

Does this look normal with those 2 drivers saying not installed?

This post has been edited by frogman: 28 November 2010 - 01:01 PM

[frogman]

When searching for my KERNEL32.DLL in it's properties for KernelEx it has the middle button ticked for disable KernelEx extensions, is this normal too can I ask?

[Tihiy]

Double-posting is not appreciated in forum, you know. Firefox 3.x won't print and will demonstrate unstable behavior whatever you do, period.

[Steven W]

quist, on 28 November 2010 - 06:25 AM, said:

Steven W, on 27 November 2010 - 11:46 PM, said:

I'm curious quist, In the Device Manager (Under Sound Devices), does USB Internet Phone show up as installed properly? If so, can you open a sound recording program, like Soundrec or Audacity and record your voice from the phone?

If you try this, you may have to select the device in the Volume Control.

Not USB Internet Phone, but it shows up as USB Audio Device...working properly.
Using Windows sound recorder (sndrec32.exe) and as you suggested, opening sndvol32.exe, the device Handset came up in the control. Ticking record shows an entry named Unknown, selected it and turned the volume up - hit record and the dial tone stopped, so I said "Watson come here" in the handset and could see it recording. Pushed play expecting to hear it through the comps speakers, duh...yes, it played back fine in the handset. So it would appear the drivers can handle it, but (as you probably know) without the program you can't dial.

Hmm, in addition to using the MJ software on XP I have been using the device to talk on Skype and X-lite. It's kind of convuluted, but I have set up X-lite with an free account from iptel.org and I've got a number from Ipkall.com. Sometimes, when I go to a friend's house, I forward the MJ to my IPKall number (which is set up with iptel) and can dial out using Google Voice. At my friend's house I just fire up X-lite and can get my calls. It doesn't always work perfectly, but usually does well. Of course the MJ isn't necessary for X-lite, but it is a convenience to use the cordless. So, if you can figure it out you might be able to do a similar setup on 98.

If you want help send me a private message. X-lite 4 has pretty heavy system requirements 2 or 3 would probably be better and, of course, there may be other IP phone software out there.

EDIT: I'm going to another friend's house who has my old 98 box. I'll take the MJ with me and see if I can get it to work with X-lite. I'll let you know.

Further EDIT: I plugged the device in and got some of the necessary drivers to install, enough that the audio functions. I did not get anything else to show up in explorer. I installed X-lite 3 and called a time and temperature number, smashing success. I also called my MJ left a voice-mail, and then retrieved it, again success.

I have a couple of minor issues, USB Phone by TigerJet is showing up under Network Devices as not installed properly. I have to use the device to listen to all audio, I'm trying to remember how to switch the default device under 98.

I'll try to find a good driver and switch the default device, but at least we know this can be done.



Even further edit: Duh, change the default device under Multimedia in the Control Panel. I give up on the driver, maybe some other day!

This post has been edited by Steven W: 28 November 2010 - 05:31 PM

[frogman]

Tihiy, on 28 November 2010 - 01:26 PM, said:

Double-posting is not appreciated in forum, you know. Firefox 3.x won't print and will demonstrate unstable behavior whatever you do, period.

I take it that Firefox 3.x prints for compatible operating systems though? or it won't print for any system whether KernelEx 4.5 RC 5 is installed or not.

This post has been edited by frogman: 28 November 2010 - 02:20 PM

[loblo]

Guys, this is a thread about KernelEx, not one about I've installed a browser and messed up my html filetypes associations...

[Dave-H]

loblo, on 29 November 2010 - 10:04 AM, said:

Guys, this is a thread about KernelEx, not one about I've installed a browser and messed up my html filetypes associations...

Of course.
I was going to suggest that Frogman and I take it up on a new thread if it had continued any longer.
My apologies.

To get back to KernelEx, can I ask that the developers make it a priority now to get this new version actually made an official release, as soon as any regressions have been sorted out.
Trying to make more programs compatible with it before then will only result in it never being released.
New compatibilities can surely wait for the next version!

[Tihiy]

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To get back to KernelEx, can I ask that the developers make it a priority now to get this new version actually made an official release, as soon as any regressions have been sorted out.
Trying to make more programs compatible with it before then will only result in it never being released.
New compatibilities can surely wait for the next version!

That's my fault since i'm the feature-pusher. So far there are following release do-wants:
- Printer problems (not reproduceable)
- Flash problems (minor / no clue)
- AlphaBlend improvements
- setup improvements
- MSI compat db
- wiki

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 29 November 2010 - 12:21 PM

[Dave-H]

Tihiy, on 29 November 2010 - 12:21 PM, said:

That's my fault since i'm the feature-pusher. So far there are following release do-wants:
- Printer problems (not reproduceable)
- Flash problems (minor / no clue)
- AlphaBlend improvements
- setup improvements
- MSI compat db
- wiki

I've been following the "printer problems" with some interest, as I use an Epson USB printer myself.
Are people trying to get XP or later only printer drivers to work in Windows 98 using KernelEx, or are they saying that drivers that are supposed to work under Windows 98 aren't now working because of KernelEx!?
My printer (Stylus Photo R285), supplied with Windows 98 compatible drivers, works fine, both before and after applying KernelEx.