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#141 User is offline   Snack 

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:03 AM

Tripredacus

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That's a weird option there, the DMI to drive 1...


Take a look on sector 8 in MBR from HP at offset 0x1000 is there a SOFTHINK label with all PC configuration?


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Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:26 AM

Snack, I don't have WAUfix.bat in C:\HP\recovery\bin
What's your noteboook model?




F11 in my case, makes the recovery partition active..but doesn't load the recovery manager...
Also, when I executed MBRInst.exe, this was the result:
Attached File  mbrinst.jpg (48.19K)
Number of downloads: 39

So F11 CAN locate the recovery partition and shows the error message "disk read error".......
AND MBRInst.exe CAN see my recovery partition but can't update its boot record.......
:wacko:

I just want to know who is the suspect here??? MBR? BOOT SECTORS?
or it's all about NTDLR and BCD??

If the only purpose of F11 hotkey is to set D: as active, then it's working fine.
But what then? If a partition is active it should be able to load \windows\system32\winload.exe which exists only in the boot.WIM file....is that why the "disk read error" message appears?

Can somebody please clarify the root of my problem here? :(

I'm LOST.

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 10:49 AM

1. Do you have this file in D:\boot directory?
If not > copy and paste this script to elevated command prompt

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xcopy /r C:\WINDOWS\Boot\DVD\PCAT\boot.sdi d:\boot\boot.sdi

2. Check disk D: for errors

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right click on disc D: > properties > tools > check now > automatically fix file system errors

3. Do you have C:\windows\SMINST directory with mbr.dll there? (Where Softhink keep files)

4. Is there HPRM-BCDFix.cmd C:\HP\recovery\bin?
If not > upload it from post #140 along with WAUfix.bat

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:25 AM

View PostSnack, on Apr 17 2009, 10:49 AM, said:

1. Do you have this file in D:\boot directory?
If not > copy and paste this script to elevated command prompt

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xcopy /r C:\WINDOWS\Boot\DVD\PCAT\boot.sdi d:\boot\boot.sdi

2. Check disk D: for errors

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right click on disc D: > properties > tools > check now > automatically fix file system errors

3. Do you have C:\windows\SMINST directory with mbr.dll there? (Where Softhink keep files)

4. Is there HPRM-BCDFix.cmd C:\HP\recovery\bin?
If not > upload it from post #140 along with WAUfix.bat


  • yes, boot.sdi already exists in d:\boot
  • There are no errors
  • The SMINST folder in my case is in C:\program files not windows
  • no, HPRM-BCDFix.cmd exists only in SMINST folder

What's giong around in your mind ? :blink:

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:58 AM

Did you try my method with mbr.exe ahmad?

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:19 PM

View PostTripredacus, on Apr 17 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Did you try my method with mbr.exe ahmad?


Actually, I hoped that I won't be in need to use mbr.exe.......

The last time I messed with MBR made me Suffer to undo the changes I made....

However, I'll try this one.

Here is my partinfo.txt :
PARTINFW 1.11
Copyright (c) 1996-2008 TeraByte, Inc.  All rights reserved.

Run date: 04/17/2009 21:00

====================================================================
		   MBR Partition Information (HD0 - 0x5BAE7BDD)
		   (CHS: 1022/254/63) (WCHS: 38913/255/63)
+====+====+=============+====+=============+===========+===========+
| 0: | 80 |	0  32 33 |  7 | 1023 254 63 |	  2048 | 602947576 |
| 1: |  0 | 1023 254 63 |  7 | 1023 254 63 | 602949632 |  22187713 |
| 2: |  0 |	0   0  0 |  0 |	0   0  0 |		 0 |		 0 |
| 3: |  0 |	0   0  0 |  0 |	0   0  0 |		 0 |		 0 |
+====+====+=============+====+=============+===========+===========+
						   BOOT SECTOR INFORMATION
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
File System ID: 0x7   LBA: 2048  Total Sectors: 602947576   ID: 0x1
						  Jump: EB 52 90
					  OEM Name: NTFS	
				 Bytes Per Sec: 512
				 Sec Per Clust: 8
				   Res Sectors: 0
						Zero 1: 0x0
						Zero 2: 0x0
						  NA 1: 0x0
						 Media: 0xF8
						Zero 3: 0x0
				 Sec Per Track: 63
						 Heads: 255
				   Hidden Secs: 2048
						  NA 2: 0x0
						  NA 3: 0x800080
				 Total Sectors: 0x023F03FF7
					   MFT LCN: 0x0C0000
				  MFT Mirr LCN: 0x023F03FF
				 Clust Per FRS: 0xF6
			  Clust Per IBlock: 0x1
					 Volume SN: 0xC05669A156699944
					  Checksum: 0x0
					 Boot Flag: 0xAA55
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
File System ID: 0x7   LBA: 602949632  Total Sectors: 22187713   ID: 0x2
						  Jump: EB 52 90
					  OEM Name: NTFS	
				 Bytes Per Sec: 512
				 Sec Per Clust: 8
				   Res Sectors: 0
						Zero 1: 0x0
						Zero 2: 0x0
						  NA 1: 0x0
						 Media: 0xF8
						Zero 3: 0x0
				 Sec Per Track: 63
						 Heads: 255
				   Hidden Secs: 602974208
						  NA 2: 0x0
						  NA 3: 0x800080
				 Total Sectors: 0x015227FF
					   MFT LCN: 0x0C0000
				  MFT Mirr LCN: 0x015287F
				 Clust Per FRS: 0xF6
			  Clust Per IBlock: 0x1
					 Volume SN: 0x8E02A92E2A91BE9
					  Checksum: 0x0
					 Boot Flag: 0xAA55
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


As you can see, both partitions have the same file system ID.
So I used mbr.exe as you said to hide D:, and now this is the new partinfo.txt:
PARTINFW 1.11
Copyright (c) 1996-2008 TeraByte, Inc.  All rights reserved.

Run date: 04/17/2009 21:12

====================================================================
		   MBR Partition Information (HD0 - 0x5BAE7BDD)
		   (CHS: 1022/254/63) (WCHS: 38913/255/63)
+====+====+=============+====+=============+===========+===========+
| 0: | 80 |	0  32 33 |  7 | 1023 254 63 |	  2048 | 602947576 |
| 1: |  0 | 1023 254 63 | 17 | 1023 254 63 | 602949632 |  22187713 |
| 2: |  0 |	0   0  0 |  0 |	0   0  0 |		 0 |		 0 |
| 3: |  0 |	0   0  0 |  0 |	0   0  0 |		 0 |		 0 |
+====+====+=============+====+=============+===========+===========+
						   BOOT SECTOR INFORMATION
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
File System ID: 0x7   LBA: 2048  Total Sectors: 602947576   ID: 0x1
						  Jump: EB 52 90
					  OEM Name: NTFS	
				 Bytes Per Sec: 512
				 Sec Per Clust: 8
				   Res Sectors: 0
						Zero 1: 0x0
						Zero 2: 0x0
						  NA 1: 0x0
						 Media: 0xF8
						Zero 3: 0x0
				 Sec Per Track: 63
						 Heads: 255
				   Hidden Secs: 2048
						  NA 2: 0x0
						  NA 3: 0x800080
				 Total Sectors: 0x023F03FF7
					   MFT LCN: 0x0C0000
				  MFT Mirr LCN: 0x023F03FF
				 Clust Per FRS: 0xF6
			  Clust Per IBlock: 0x1
					 Volume SN: 0xC05669A156699944
					  Checksum: 0x0
					 Boot Flag: 0xAA55
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
File System ID: 0x17   LBA: 602949632  Total Sectors: 22187713   ID: 0x2
						  Jump: EB 52 90
					  OEM Name: NTFS	
				 Bytes Per Sec: 512
				 Sec Per Clust: 8
				   Res Sectors: 0
						Zero 1: 0x0
						Zero 2: 0x0
						  NA 1: 0x0
						 Media: 0xF8
						Zero 3: 0x0
				 Sec Per Track: 63
						 Heads: 255
				   Hidden Secs: 602974208
						  NA 2: 0x0
						  NA 3: 0x800080
				 Total Sectors: 0x015227FF
					   MFT LCN: 0x0C0000
				  MFT Mirr LCN: 0x015287F
				 Clust Per FRS: 0xF6
			  Clust Per IBlock: 0x1
					 Volume SN: 0x8E02A92E2A91BE9
					  Checksum: 0x0
					 Boot Flag: 0xAA55
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
After restarting windows the D partition file system returned again to 0x7!!!!!! :blink:

Should I proceed the other steps?

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 01:44 PM

.........

I executed both commands in one windows session:

MBR 0 1 /H

mbr 0 /install selm 10 11 "Press F11 for Recovery" 0x7 0x17


and then restarted the computer and pressed F11......

The same error message appeared :
A disk read error occured 
Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart


BTW, the recovery partition automatically returns to its original file system ID 0x7, so all what I had to do to boot into windows again was setting C: as Active using mbrwizd.exe in my bootable USBStick.....

Using the command MBR 0 /reset did not erase the edited mbr portions but erased my original MBR and my system became unbootable again......wait a second...
This is strange, now I have to press F11 to boot Vista, otherwise it says that I don't have a bootable device.!!! :blink:
It doesn't matter, I restored my original mbr again using HDhacker...

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I just want to know who is the suspect here??? MBR? BOOT SECTORS?
or it's all about NTDLR and BCD??

If the only purpose of F11 hotkey is to set D: as active, then it's working fine.
But what then? If a partition is active it should be able to load \windows\system32\winload.exe which exists only in the boot.WIM file....is that why the "disk read error" message appears?

I really want to know the answer of these questiions.....

Any more ideas??

EDIT:" I don't beleive in HP special MBR code to load WINRE using the F11 function.........IMHO, all what we need now is a way to load D:\boot\boot.wim using the F11 function.

This explins what I mean : Attached File  possible_.JPG (13.39K)
Number of downloads: 26

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  Posted 17 April 2009 - 02:54 PM

My startup process:
http://rapidshare.co...tartup.doc.html
"Sorry for the bad resolution"

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 04:00 PM

All routine in MBR has only purpose - set keys to pointing on partition bootloader - which wake up bootmgr with options read from local BCD (three different ones - for C:, for D: and for DVD)
I got wiped BCD along with MBR for many times on C: and in every cause, using Vista Restore CD and WUAfix (modified), make restored normal boot process with all those keys and menues working well.

As I see you are stoped on BCD from D:.
If objects in BCD is incorrect you will not be able to boot :huh: looking errors (MS only knows) even Blue Screen.

1. Look for sure if present signature RECOVERY in bootsector D:
2. Edit WUAfix script (find and replace "windows" with "program files")
3. I there in SMINST folder somewhat like mbr.dll or mbrinst.exe?
4. If mbrinst.exe present instead of mbr.dll (my PC) then edit WUAfix the same way as in p.2

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:03 AM

Ok,
Thanks all of you for your time and effort....


The F11 problem has not been solved [nothing worked], and I will give up at this part....

So here is what I'm gonna do:
Burn the recovery disks and then recover my system using them.....

If the disks booted and loaded the recovery manager, that'll be enough...

If not, there is a trick to burn them again....so I'll return again to the unanswered questions " Primary function of F11 " and " Files needed to boot from an active partition with windows vista on it" and search for their answers..... :ph34r:

Thanks,
Ahmad :hello:

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Posted 20 April 2009 - 11:55 AM

I have not seen a time when a partitions ID changed back by itself. Perhaps there is an integrity check done at some point by the HP software that changes it? Or, the BIOS has a failsafe option enabled, such as a write-protect or anti-virus option.

Not sure what to do since both partitions are id 0x7.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:47 AM

Um, First of all......I'm sorry for this large delay in my reply....

I should have informed you people earlier..

However, just to close this case that appears to be still opened and unanswered, I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say :whistle: ...

The recovery disks loaded the recovery manager which gave me two option (unlike the recovery manager loaded from F8):
-Restore your computer to factory settings
-Restore your system to factory settings.

I really don't know the difference, I choosed the "system" recovery option anyway.[which seems to be more general]

After the procces finished, everything returned to normal.....F11 works and so does F8...

So everything is perfect now.......
and the WHOLE problem is solved...

I saved a copy from my MBR and bootsectors in case of any other future problems.

Thanks again......

Ahmad

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 08:12 AM

I've recently discovered how to monitor the partition creation process, but I haven't the time to play with it.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 02:41 PM

Hi all,

Does anyone know exactly how to automate hidden recovery partition with option to hit function-key during post,
which will activate the 'restore to factory'-process? I read all the discussions, but there is no full and clear
guide/explanation.

What I want to do:

Make a winpe 2.0 cd/dvd which creates 2 partitions: 1 hidden recovery with fixed size (4GB), 1 system partiton with
the rest of the available size.
Afterwards with free available tool from Terabyte mbr.exe (windows-version) make the function-key available
which in turn will activate the recovery process if function-key is pressed during POST. After factory wim-image is restored, recovery partition has to be made hidden again and rebooted to the restored system-partition.
I'm aware of diskpart script and can create the partitions automatically , but get stuck at switching from one partition to another with Terabyte-tool. I use sysprep-images on a daily base and it would be awesome if I can do the same as roalty OEM-companies with recovery partition but using free available software (WAIK/OPK) from Microsoft and Terabyte. Next step will be to create an application form with different options to select:

- Create recovery-cd/dvd with or without wim-image included
- Create factory recovery partition
- Restore factory image (user data will be destroyed)
- Restore image without destroying user-data)
- Start diagnostic Tools (UBCD/UBCD4WINDOWS/WINBUILDER)
- Install XP from USB AFTER Booting with PE from HDD or USB, Install from USB without Booting from USB
- ...

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  Posted 12 July 2009 - 01:33 AM

Hello I have a similar problem.

Hello,



Being in possession of a EliteBook 8530w and Pro running Vista X64, I decided to install Windows 7 in x64 version. Despite some small configuration problem, I restore my voullu Vista Pro x64 using the recovery partition (F11). Unfortunately I can no longer possible to use the recovery partition, Windows 7 is probably a boot sector. I've got Vista x64 Pro en version DVD but unfortunately it is an English version / Finnish / ect ... except french. As against partition on my recovery I have the French version, but how to use my recovery? I know that Dell there is a small app that allowed you put the amoracage the recovery partition, but at HP I can not find anywhere. I'm pretty enmbété because apparently I can not rajoutter files Language Pro on Vista x64. If someone has a solution for my problem would be really nice.



Error on F11 : 0xc000000f



Thanks for all help me.

Ps: I suppose that the partition starts on a recevory WinPE, but what is the file that runs everything in the picture if dessu? Personal car if I can do this manually is not a problem, but I do not know what aps file is run ...

Ps: sorry my bad english.

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 05:35 AM

I had the same problem way back months ago. The recovery manager can't create the recovery discs.
So this is what i did so that i can make use of that crappy partition which was bundled and was not working.

If you might be asking why I posted it just now?

It's because I'm still dead desperate that I'd be able to create those DVD Recovery discs and still "googling" for it.

1. Go to control panel.
2. Open Administrative Tools
3. Computer Management
4. Look for Storage.
5. Click Disk Management
6. Wait for your RECOVERY(D:) partition to appear
7. Right click it and select "Mark Partition as active"
8. Restart your laptop
9. Upon Boot Make sure to press F11 and F10 to make it work or whichever key you need to press to activate the Recovery Console.
10. And before doing this, completely BACK-UP your files first as the recovery process would put your notebook back into it's factory state.

Hope this helps!

chuboy

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:03 AM

Hi,
I have similar problem. I read all of the posts but still couldn't make a recovery DVD in case of error. Let me tell you my position.

I have Pavilion dv5-1102tx laptop. I bought it from one of the computer shops. I told them to install XP instead of vista. I really didn't have any idea that it didn't have installation media. Anyway, I have a computer now with HP_RECOVERY volume is intact. I can access from XP and all files seems ok. However I think they changed its boot sector in funny way. Because it is active drive XP's ntdetect ntldr is in in this drive. When I boot from XP HP_RECOVERY partition is D drive. However if I boot with Vista based bootable CD, its name changed to C:

I have tried to change MBR of HP_RECOVERY with the ones ahmad2080 posted. One time, when I hit F11 I just saw blinking underline and it got stuck, I used another one and this time it said Disk read error. Is there a anyway for me to make this recovery DVD. I am not thinking to install vista at anytime. I just want to have a insurance in case I need to install quick OS to make job done.

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Posted 03 August 2009 - 01:40 PM

OK I've got some questions, because I am not entirely certain I understood what you posted.

1. Did this notebook originally have Vista installed on it at the store?
2. Is there a Vista COA (sticker with serial number) attached to the computer or is there only an XP COA?
3. Post the part number on the COA (not the CD Key!) it should start with an X, for example X14-11111.

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Posted 04 August 2009 - 05:51 AM

1. Yes it was. It was windows vista home premium I guess. I just told them to install XP.
2. At the back it has vista sticker with key
3. Part number is X14-39706

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Posted 12 August 2009 - 09:35 AM

Reconstructing the MBR was very difficult for us all in the previous cases. However, HP does have tools on their site that will attempt to fix the MBR for you, or in your case, the BCD. Take a look here:
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?s=&...st&p=848181

Is your computer still under warranty?

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