[dencorso]

Dave-H, on May 1 2009, 12:32 PM, said:

Once it's gone to 100% CPU usage, it never drops down from that again until I reboot.
System performance doesn't seem to be impaired though.
The strange thing is, if I look at the CPU usage in Process Explorer, it isn't shown as 100%!
"System Idle Process" is shown as using most of the CPU, which I believe is normal, and the actual CPU usage is shown as being around 4-5%.

Dave, you might use Windows own SYSMON.EXE to break the tie and decide which app is wrong... my own bet goes to the Cool Beans, as sysinternals utilities are pretty reliable.

This post has been edited by dencorso: 02 May 2009 - 03:34 AM

[Dave-H]

Well, I looked at the CPU usage in Windows System Monitor, and that says 100% too!
So it's only Process Explorer which is saying that it's only 4-5%.
Cool Beans System Info and Sysmon both say 100%.
Maybe PE uses different criteria to measure it?
Incidentally, WinTop also says that "Idle" is using nearly all of the CPU, as does Process Explorer.

This "problem" (if it really is one) does disappear if I uninstall Tihiy's thumbnail viewer.
I didn't actually delete any files, just unregistered gdipthms.dll, and ran "regsvr32 /i browseui.dll".
Obviously I lost the video thumbnails and preview frames, but the image file thumbnails and preview frames reverted to the Windows default, and the 100% CPU indication went away.

I'm pretty sure that it's the generation of thumbnails and preview frames from video files that's mainly causing the problem.
The results with video files seem to vary a lot too.
Some do nothing when highlighted, some produce a "Generating Preview..." message which then goes away but no preview frame appears, some produce a preview frame after a delay, some produce one instantly.

This is all from QuickTime movie files, and I can't see why some are being treated differently to others.
They vary a huge amount in file size, but are mainly all the same codec, Sorensen 3.
The results on other video formats seem to be similar, but the majority of my video archive is QuickTime files.
Hope this helps to investigate things.
Cheers, Dave.

[eidenk]

Dave-H, on May 3 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

Well, I looked at the CPU usage in Windows System Monitor, and that says 100% too!
So it's only Process Explorer which is saying that it's only 4-5%.
Cool Beans System Info and Sysmon both say 100%.
Maybe PE uses different criteria to measure it?
Incidentally, WinTop also says that "Idle" is using nearly all of the CPU, as does Process Explorer.

That's just normal I think. For as far as I can remember I have always seen that on my Windows ME system. All tools that indicate global CPU usage say 100% and when I look with TaskInfo 98 or Process Explorer the idle process uses 97-99% usually.

Funny that there is not a single tool that substract the idle value from 100 and presents it as the cpu usage though.

[triger49]

Man ...just had to speak up ...

Tihiy....these little power toys are the greatest thing since cornflakes....Thanks for sharing ,,

I often wonder what else you got stashed away there that i haven't seen yet....being a relative newbie here...


Jake

[Dave-H]

eidenk, on May 3 2009, 08:37 PM, said:

For as far as I can remember I have always seen that on my Windows ME system. All tools that indicate global CPU usage say 100% and when I look with TaskInfo 98 or Process Explorer the idle process uses 97-99% usually.

Fair enough, but I never got permanent 100% CPU usage indications anywhere until the thumbnail viewer was installed.

[dencorso]

Dave-H, on May 4 2009, 03:57 PM, said:

eidenk, on May 3 2009, 08:37 PM, said:

For as far as I can remember I have always seen that on my Windows ME system. All tools that indicate global CPU usage say 100% and when I look with TaskInfo 98 or Process Explorer the idle process uses 97-99% usually.

Fair enough, but I never got permanent 100% CPU usage indications anywhere until the thumbnail viewer was installed.

Neither do I. BTW, my patched SYSMON may interest you, although it'll not solve your issue. Note that the Win ME version works OK on 98SE, and that's the one I'm presently using.

[Dave-H]

dencorso, on May 4 2009, 08:49 PM, said:

Neither do I. BTW, my patched SYSMON may interest you, although it'll not solve your issue. Note that the Win ME version works OK on 98SE, and that's the one I'm presently using.

Thanks den.
I've downloaded and installed it.
Is there any reason to use the ME version instead of the 98SE version?

[dencorso]

Dave-H, on May 4 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

dencorso, on May 4 2009, 08:49 PM, said:

Neither do I. BTW, my patched SYSMON may interest you, although it'll not solve your issue. Note that the Win ME version works OK on 98SE, and that's the one I'm presently using.

Thanks den.
I've downloaded and installed it.
Is there any reason to use the ME version instead of the 98SE version?

To have the most up-to-date code-base available. I think it's worth it, but that's just my opinion.

[Dave-H]

I've installed the ME version now, and as you say it seems to be absolutely fine.
Thanks.

Now I hope Tihiy can find some reason for the apparent 100% CPU usage when his thumbnail program is operating!

[Dave-H]

Any update on the apparent CPU usage problem with the thumbnail viewer Tihiy?

[Tihiy]

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Any update on the apparent CPU usage problem with the thumbnail viewer Tihiy?

You haven't provided any proof there is a problem. I can't trust sysmon which is often starts giving high CPU usage. If you say problem is apparent, then prove me how do you notice high CPU load - is there sluggishness or problems with multi-tasking or sound playing or what?

Also:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227131

This post has been edited by Tihiy: 15 May 2009 - 01:54 AM

[dencorso]

Tihiy, I've never noticed the issues decribed in Q227131 with the Win ME SYSMON, which I use on a daily basis for year already, and which is the one Dave-H is presently using.

[Tihiy]

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I've never noticed the issues decribed in Q227131 with the Win ME SYSMON

This has nothing to do with sysmon version, really. It's a bug in performance measurement in 9x. Every application which uses registry CPU usage data can suffer from this.

[Dave-H]

Tihiy, on May 15 2009, 08:47 AM, said:

You haven't provided any proof there is a problem. I can't trust sysmon which is often starts giving high CPU usage. If you say problem is apparent, then prove me how do you notice high CPU load - is there sluggishness or problems with multi-tasking or sound playing or what?

Also:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227131

Hi Tihiy,
No, there is no proof that there is an actual problem.
As I said before, the responsiveness of the system seems to be unaffected, which is why I think it likely that the 100% CPU usage indication is an error in the monitoring programs.
However, it never happened until I installed the thumbnail viewer, and it returns to normal if the viewer is disabled, which is why I thought it worth bringing it to your attention for investigation.
Thanks for the pointer to the MS KB article.
Cheers, Dave.

This post has been edited by Dave-H: 15 May 2009 - 04:30 AM

[luluthefirst]

Can you add the button "Pause process" ?

[Tihiy]

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Can you add the button "Pause process" ?

No, i can't since those programs are not developed anymore. But when could it be useful?

[winforever]

Hello tihiy,i would like to use your network activity indicator.but i dont want two Network indicators on the taskbar.so what i need to know is how do i get rid of the default dailup network indicator? i am running windows 98SE. my desktop screenshot...

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This post has been edited by winforever: 21 May 2009 - 03:39 AM

[trevor89]

As far as Im aware there is no default 'Network' icon, only a Dail-Up/modem icon

However If you have 2 network cards it may be annoying to have 2 icons at the bottom, so yeah, can you add the option to hide the icon from systray but have it in..., how about Network Settings.

Another feature I think would be good for it wpuld be to either dissapear or give indication when a network is unplugged/unavailable. Sometimes my network is offline or I unplugg the cable yet the icon stays. Then when its replugged can it have the same balloon tip as your VPN (and modem possibly) icon in RP7 - of which would be another thing to add to RP9... I like it...

Trev

[winforever]

sorry,i ment the dailup modem icon edited post

[ajzen]

Hi! I've Hi! I've just installed GDI+ thumbnails and I realized that when I change the view to "Thumbnails" I can't see the windows like "an web page". Is there a solution to this? I have the Spanish version of 98SE.

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Thank you!!