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dtmunir

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hey all
i just bought the ASUS p4p800 deluxe motherboard and im lovin every bit of it... :)

now i need some body who has the same board to help me include all the drivers, ie the intel infs, the sound, the lan, as well as all the utilities, ie pc probe, asus update etc in my unattend installation

thanks in advance for the help
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Have you seen the Unattended XP CD Guide yet? Most up-to-date info on anything you need to do with XP Unattended installation. If not, check it out here:

http://unattended.MS...rg/xp/index.htm

Hope it helps.

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ive already seen that and used it to make my own cd a long time ago.
i also keep chekin it frequently for updates.

my question was to any ppl who actually hv the same mobo and can help in a step by step way in implementing unattend for all the goodies for this board.

thanks anyway
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I don't have a step by step way of doing all you want. But I do have the same mobo. The Hardest part of the whole cd is implement the RAID drivers, other than that it should be pretty easy to get everything else you want on your CD

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hey stinger
ok..maybe not step by step but can u give me just some general guidelines on how to implement it
thanks
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P4P800 Deluxe has 2 raid controllers onboard.
One from VIA (6410) , and the other from Intel (ICH5R)...

the required files are supplied in the rar file

copy the *.sys and the *.inf files to the \i386 directory

copy *.sys to the $OEM$\$$\System32\Drivers directory

copy the *.inf files to \$OEM$\$$\INF

UPDATE the HIVESYS.INF and the TXTSETUP.SIF with the information supplied in the files.rar

I also placed the apropriate files in \$OEM$\$1\Drivers\<path to *.inf>
and added the path names to the WINNT.SIF file under this section:
[Unattended]
OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\IntelRaid;Drivers\VT6410"

This works for me .. hope it does for you also.

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ok I just got the P4P800 also and used the unattended XP CD guide in an attempt to make my own for the first time.

The reason Im attmpting this is because Im having problems with XP not installing my chipset and video drivers correctly after install due to VGAsave. Im hoping this will prevent that.

I followed the guide the best I could but there were some areas that didnt make sense.I slipstreamed SP1a ok and the rollup also.

What Im not sure about is the $oem$ folder and getting the correct files in the correct folder. I have a folder for each set of Pnp drivers I want to install but Im not sure after extracting say the Nvidia Detonator drivers which ones need to go in the display drivers folder could the whole extraction go in there without problems? Also Shark made mention of a system32 and INF folder.... the guide didnt cover these folders and what to place into them.

Another thing I am not sure of in my WINNT.SIF and DOSNET.INF files are correct because one link says to do this and another to do that. Also Shark makes reference to HYVSYS.INF and TXTSETUP.SIF which were not covered in the guide.

Last Im not sure my .img file is correct. I copied the one from my orginal XP setup disk as the link to the slipstreaming instructions said to do but the guide said to use the download for the CDIMAGE which I attempted to run and it did not produce the image file it said it would.

I burned a disk anyway and the setup ran up to the point that is said it could not copy my .inf and .sys files for my raid. They are in $OEM$\$1\Drivers\001_Raid.

I will post my WINNT.SIF for someone to check.

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Ok here is the section of my WINNT.SIF im not sure about...

[Unattended]
    UnattendMode=FullUnattended
    OemPreinstall=Yes
    TargetPath=\WINDOWS
    Repartition=No
    UnattendedSwitch="yes"
    WaitForReboot="No" OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\000_Intel_Chipset;Drivers\001_Raid;Drivers\002_3Com_Lan;Drivers\003_NVidia_Display;Drivers\004_Monitor;Drivers\005_Keyboard;Drivers\006_Mouse"
    DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
    AutoActivate=No
    
[GuiUnattended]
    EncryptedAdminPassword=NO
    OEMSkipRegional=1
    TimeZone=20
    OemSkipWelcome=1


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Also am I incorrect in assuming that you only need to install one of the raid controlers. I only wish to us the Via raid controller.

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a thing about intel chipset drivers: they don't do anything.
the setup program (infinst.exe) hides its inf files in its cab files. There is a switch to extract them though (setup /? will tell you) and you can then see there are no sys files for intel chipset. There are only inf and cat files. The inf files just make sure the devices are called "Intel yadayada driver" instead of "Generic yadayada driver", but they use the SAME sys file included with xp. There is no need to install an intel chipset driver. They might make registry changes, but... they don't.

This does not apply to SATA or sound drivers off course, just the chipset (ICH-x drivers)

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jdeboeck, does this mean that the fixes shown in the Chipset Release Notes is full of BS?

ftp://aiedownload.intel.com/df-support/6934/eng/relnotes.htm

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wouldnt call it BS, just not relevant enough to use the driver in XP.

The drivers are probably very usefull in 9x or NT, just not in XP. Changes are made to the installation utility itsself. Even the inf files may be changed, adding support for newer chipsets. Its not BS, but in the end all it does is rename your device. It doesnt provide a new SYS file, it doesnt change the registry.

Just see for yourself... download intel chipset drivers here

http://downloadfinde...e&ProductID=939

Extract them (dont run infinst.exe) and then do this on a command prompr
setup -a -p c:\intel
it will save the drivers instead of installing them. Now look in that directory. Not a single binary file in them (well except for the catalog files which just contain the signatures for the inf files)

Open up any of the inf files, and you'll see they either include the original inf from xp, or copy the original file from xp...

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if you want your devices named correctly included the extracted drivers in your $oem$, they dont hurt.. just dont bother running the infinst utility unattended.

These drivers are supposed to be for USB, AGP, IDE, ... compare them to chipset drivers from sis or via and you'll see that these do include new sys files...

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Ok Im not sure I agree that intel chipset drivers are not needed because without them XP doesnt show an AGP controller and doesnt see my Geforce FX and runs VGAsave which is the whole reason Im trying to make my own Unattended CD.... to get the correct and latest drivers at install so my Video installs correctly.

So I would feel safer using them. But no one has answered exactly what types of files are needed where in the $OEM$ Directory. Take for example the Intel drivers.
Will set up use .cat and .cab files if they are in the driver folder or does it only look for .inf and .sys. And there are like 30 .cat files so do I need them all or just certain ones.

Also in an earlier post Shark said to put certain files in system32 and INF. How do I know what needs to go into those folders.

Shark also said to make changes to hyvsys.inf and txtsetup.sif. how do I know what changes need to be made in those for each set of drivers I want to install.

Some one please read my earlier posts and give me a little guidance.

What Im trying to accomplish is this.
I already slipsteamed SP1a and the rollup1 and created the winnt.sif. I also got the Image file to work and can now get the .img i will need to burn a bootable disk. All I want to do know is install the following drivers:

Chipset
Raid
NNidia Detonators/Forceware
Monitor
Lan
Keyboard
Mouse

Can this be acomplished by putting the drivers in the $OEM$\$1\Drivers\xxxx folders and then pointing to them in winnt.sif or do i also need to put certain drivers into another area and modify any other files or create any batch files.

Also i just downloaded the file jdeboeck linked to and extracted it and the appears to be no files that goto my chipset (82865PE).

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You bet your arse chipset drivers are needed! Unless you have an older Intel based board (440BX for example) your AGP, IDE, PCI, and USB bridges/controllers WILL NOT be detected properly. Windows XP does not have full support built in for boards like i845, i850, i865, and i875P.

Before I discovered this site and was doing plain old Windows XP installs (without SP1, hotfixes, drivers, non-unattended) on an Intel 845PE based board I would always have a yellow exclamation next to the devices I listed above. True, everything would SEEM to work properly until I installed Radeon drivers without chipset drivers first. In that scenario SmartGART would not/could not poll the AGP settings properly and I would end up without any 2D or 3D hardware accel. The SmartGART tab would show the AGP speed at 2X with Fast Writes disabled and Sandra showed Sideband addressing disabled as well. Obviously, these were the fail-safe settings and were not appropriate for my card which supported AGP 4x, sideband addressing, and fast-writes.

Now, you're absolutely right that these are only INF and CAT files and that's fine. When you're installing new hardware with PCI device ids that are not recognized by Windows the appropriate driver files are not installed for that device (hence the yellow exclamation).

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larusmc,

There's a special command-line switch that you need to run to get the INF and CAT files out of the CABs.

I believe its

setup -a -p c:\intel

as another user has listed. BTW, "c:\intel" can be any drive or folder you'd like.

Check out these screen-caps. That's where you need to put your extracted files.

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Please ignore the name of my E drive (SCARFACE). For some reason my computer doesn't update the CD titles properly.

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Thank you raskren.

So does this mean that I also need to put the other inf files for all other sets of drivers in the INF folder? And what about sys files? Do the go into the driver folder and the system32 also? And shark had said i needed to put certain files in I386 and add lines to 2 files....

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The only places I put the Intel chipset drivers are in the locations listed above. I'm not aware of any SYS files for the chipset that come with the INF update package. Which ones are you referring to?

The only text file you'll need to modify is winnt.sif. Make sure you point to the location that contains the INF files.

If you add your INF files to your CD exactly as I have then OEMPnPDriversPath in Winnt.sif should look like:

[Unattended]
    UnattendMode=FullUnattended
    OemSkipEula=Yes
    OemPreinstall=Yes
    TargetPath=\WINDOWS
    UnattendSwitch="yes"
    Repartition=No
OemPnPDriversPath="Drivers\01;Drivers\02;Drivers\03;Drivers\04;Drivers\05;Drivers\06"
    NoWaitAfterTextMode=1
    NoWaitAfterGUIMode=1 
    WaitForReboot="No"
    DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore

If you have an 865 based board you'll probably only need the ICH5*.* files, but why not install them all? They don't take up much room and you'll have all the files needed for another Intel machine as well.

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Thanks again for the help.

The files shark was refering to were for the Via Raid. Check his post earlier to se what I am asking. this is where I have caught my first hang up in running my CD. Setup says it cannoth save the sys and inf files for the via raid.

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Have you checked this thread:

http://www.MSFN.org/...showtopic=13173

I explain how to modify TXTSETUP.SIF to add new drivers. Despite the fact that you may not need these files to get Windows to recognize your drives, this method should install your drivers perfectly.

Ok, I just checked the files that Shark posted. They looks OK but it appears that the lines he added to TXTSTUP.SIF are going to copy VIARAID.SYS to \Windows\System32 already.

In that case you'll simply need to compress VIARAID.SYS and IaStor.SYS and copy them to the i386 folder. The link above should give you more details.

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Raskin,

I checked the link to the tread on how to modify TCTSETUP.SIF and it gave me some more insight but also added more confusion.. :) . Im lost as to how to determine exactly what infor to add to the line for my specific drivers. I am only running IDE HD on the Via raid. I am not using the Intel Raid for the SATA.

Also i managed to extract the Inf and CAT files for the chipset. However when extacted I have 7 folders labeled from ich2 - ich5 and also some such as ich2-m. Some of these folder contain the same inf files. Of these folders which one or ones do i need my inf and cat files from. (P4P800 Deluxe - 865 chipset I think)

To remove some confusion.... I am trying to learn how to install both the Via raid and then the chipset drivers. I think once I understand this i can then apply it to all others such as Detonators, Lan, Monitor, ect.

Lastly the makcab utility? Is that in windows or do i need to DL it from somewhere? And do the files need to be compressed or will it be ok to put them in I386 as is.

Thanks again for the help.

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Ok i just followed Sharks post on page 1 of this thread for the Raid only I left out the intel raid drivers and didnt ad the intel raid lines to the HIVESYS.INF and TXTSETUP.SIF files because I am not using the intel raid.

Is this correct or do i still need the intel raid because it somehow works in conjuntion with the via?

Also what about .dll, ect files for other devices such as lan, display, ect. do those need to go somewhere on the unattened cd or just the inf and sys?

Does anyone have a shot of what files are needed for Nvidia 5950 also? There a quite a few files and 2 cab files that I cannot figure out how to extract.

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For the chipset drivers your best bet is to just ALL extracted INF and CAT files. Copy the INF files to $OEM$\$$\INF and copy the INF and CAT files to a directory specified in OEMPnpDriversPath in Winnt.sif. Your computer won't need all of the files...just do it to be safe.

To add the Via raid driver you can use my example (the other thread) as a model. Simply replace either iaStor.sys or Si3114r.sys with the appropriate .sys file from your extracted Via raid set. It looks like that would be viaraid.sys. Compress this file using makecab.exe (comes with Windows) and copy it to your i386 folder. Then make the changes to txtsetup.sif as instructed by shark.

As for the other drivers, they need to go in your OEMPnpDriversPath folders.

Read this for more info.
http://www.MSFN.org/.../xp/drivers.htm




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