[Jeronimo]

Tom-Helge, on May 29 2009, 01:49 PM, said:

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So now the Sticky Notes are working like it should. But Snipping Tool in Windows 7 doesn't work though, but that's fine because i don't need that program. It just says it need the MAGNIFICATION.dll file to work.
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Jeronimo, on May 15 2009, 12:33 AM, said:

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Snipping tool needs protect on: windows\system32\Magnification.dll & windows\system32\msdrm.dll (can be re-added manually later post-install)
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[Jeronimo]

I retested again with build 7137:
vLite'd image, kept everything, but just rebuild for Windows 7 Ultimate (remove other editions)
Install to secondary partition, went into audit mode to install the Dutch languagepack, Updates and removed everything by use of Windows features (except for XPS viewer) and finalized the image.
With vLite I removed everything I previously did, although some things were not shown, because I removed them in Windows features (Windows Search for example, but IE still appaers).

I was able to remove a bit more: Game Explorer, Help (Windows features removed already), QoS, Windows Firewall, Task Scheduler, TPM Base Service, Windows Event Log, MDAC, SQM.
(The preset below does not have these checked for removal yet).

IE, QoS, Windows Firewall together in 1 turn provided blocking errors during install (I already encountered this in the past though).


Removal issues:
Snipping Tool (Sticky Notes do not work, keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
Welcome Center (keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
IE (installation error)
Application Experience (installation error)
Crash Dump Support (hibernate does not work)

Protect files:
windows\system32\winipsec.dll (IPSec removal gives installation error)
windows\system32\Magnification.dll & windows\system32\msdrm.dll (Snipping Tool does not function)
windows\system32\wer.dll & windows\system32\werconcpl.dll (issues? not verified)

edit: Tested Task Scheduler and SQM removal succesfully
edit 2: Tested QoS (succesfull) and Crash dump support (failed) removal
edit 3: Tested Windows firewall removal succesfully (preset not updated yet)
edit 3: Tested ICS removal succesfully (preset not updated yet)

This post has been edited by Jeronimo: 30 May 2009 - 03:14 PM

[rollcage]

Very useful list on the first post ...

I have opted to keep a few stuff according to my usage, but indeed this is a good list. thx for those caution list for not to keep out.
> snipping tool not working.. (anyway can use the MWsnap instead),
> DEP - what option to choose? - optin? or Default?
> Page file executive > Disabled ?

I am just confused on few options..like wether I keep on x64 or x86 on this config my siggie .. i use vmware, a gaming alittle. i have used x64 till now but the lack of some stuff keep me confused when we will get it over. may be 128 bit OS directly. haha./

This post has been edited by rollcage: 31 May 2009 - 03:33 AM

[Jeronimo]

New removal issues (**** FridgeTooFar was right :-( ):
MDAC (unable to start Device Manager, Computer Management: mmc.eexe)
SQM? (Update issues, probably related to this)

[liquid0624]

Jeronimo your update issues are probably due to the IPSec Removal or QoS or a combo of both would not recommend removing either. Also since i removed file and print sharing and event log i cannot install Perfect disk or Total idea Tweak 7.

[Jeronimo]

Nope issues where related to those last 2 components. So full story for the attached 7137-preset is...

Removal issues (and therefore not removed):
Snipping Tool (Sticky Notes do not work, keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
Welcome Center (keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
IE (installation error)
Application Experience (installation error)
Crash Dump Support (hibernate does not work)
MDAC (unable to start Device Manager, Computer Management and probably other mmc.exe related components)
SQM (Windows Update does not show updates correctly)

Protect files details:
windows\system32\browcli.dll & windows\SYSwow64\browcli (required for "net start/stop" and psservice)
windows\system32\winipsec.dll (IPSec removal gives installation error)
windows\system32\Magnification.dll & windows\system32\msdrm.dll (Snipping Tool does not function)
windows\system32\wer.dll & windows\system32\werconcpl.dll (issues? not verified)

On to 7201 and then RTM

This post has been edited by Jeronimo: 16 June 2009 - 04:08 PM

[liquid0624]

ok cool bro currently working on vlite build 7102 64 bit and i removed crash dump support and it completely made the power options in the control panel disappear i will give ur INI a whirl then or compare it to mine. thanks for replying i will keep you updated and possibly post a new v3 ini for you guys.

[FridgeTooFar]

We need a vlite thats been equipped to work with the windows 7 waik, thats why all this crap is happening, its compiling the image incorrectly I would guess, but since nuhi jumped ship, vlite doesnt do the most important task for me (remove IE) and yes I know W7 is not out but its nearly finished its at feature freeze and possible rtm and will be out on Oct 09, so we need something an alpha a beta something to work with.

[FridgeTooFar]

Jeronimo, on May 30 2009, 07:12 AM, said:

I retested again with build 7137:
vLite'd image, kept everything, but just rebuild for Windows 7 Ultimate (remove other editions)
Install to secondary partition, went into audit mode to install the Dutch languagepack, Updates and removed everything by use of Windows features (except for XPS viewer) and finalized the image.
With vLite I removed everything I previously did, although some things were not shown, because I removed them in Windows features (Windows Search for example, but IE still appaers).

I was able to remove a bit more: Game Explorer, Help (Windows features removed already), QoS, Windows Firewall, Task Scheduler, TPM Base Service, Windows Event Log, MDAC, SQM.
(The preset below does not have these checked for removal yet).

IE, QoS, Windows Firewall together in 1 turn provided blocking errors during install (I already encountered this in the past though).


Removal issues:
Snipping Tool (Sticky Notes do not work, keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
Welcome Center (keeps appearing in vLite after removal)
IE (installation error)
Application Experience (installation error)
Crash Dump Support (hibernate does not work)

Protect files:
windows\system32\winipsec.dll (IPSec removal gives installation error)
windows\system32\Magnification.dll & windows\system32\msdrm.dll (Snipping Tool does not function)
windows\system32\wer.dll & windows\system32\werconcpl.dll (issues? not verified)

edit: Tested Task Scheduler and SQM removal succesfully
edit 2: Tested QoS (succesfull) and Crash dump support (failed) removal
edit 3: Tested Windows firewall removal succesfully (preset not updated yet)
edit 3: Tested ICS removal succesfully (preset not updated yet)

you dont want to take windows firewallor ICS becuse it destroys the underpinnings of windows networking, you will be able to get on the internet but say goodbuy to computer to computer networking/etc.

[liquid0624]

I agree with you Fridge I have tried to remove them from 7201 but have had no luck even finishing a install tried both firewall and ics together and each other one at a time no go

[liquid0624]

Jeronimo in your latest preset you added the protection of these files...

windows\system32\browcli.dll
windows\sysWOW64\browcli.dll

What is your reasoning just curious these weren't in your original preset at the top of this page.

[FridgeTooFar]

Ok good news, i just did a test with very pleasing results but i ran into the select network stall problems (home, public, work, etc during install it just sits) would be nice since I was able to remove nearly everything but IE and a few others (i even yanked WU)

[liquid0624]

I took a screen shot of the power options in build 7201 that are completely weird i am just wondering if its like this because i am using a virtual machine for testing or if i removed something that has changed. Its not crash dump support causing this either tested that one. let me know what u guys think or if you have any ideas why its like this...

[FridgeTooFar]

liquid0624, on Jun 5 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

I took a screen shot of the power options in build 7201 that are completely weird i am just wondering if its like this because i am using a virtual machine for testing or if i removed something that has changed. Its not crash dump support causing this either tested that one. let me know what u guys think or if you have any ideas why its like this...

I do not know, I am tossing windows 7 its not worth the work, you have to keep IE which kinda stinks, I am going to stick with Windows Vista

[Jeronimo]

I do not use home networking or a firewall: I have a Hardware firewall in my router, a Virus scanner with a bit of mallware protection, a well protected browser (Firefox) and a good brain + common sense that I can use in case all else fails .

As I said I did a Sysrep-install in which I choose to remove IE via Windows features. The files that remain are in Winsxs and some in Program Files (around 8MB) do not bother me.

I kept browcli.dll because otherwise I can not use "net start/stop" or SysInternals equivalent psservice to start and stop services (good point I had forgotten about this).

I think 7100 and 7137 where builds without debugging code and 7127 did have that, not sure on 7201 though as I have not gotten my hands on it yet. I have seen it is 3.29GB oppposed to 3.04GB for 7137 x64 so this probably indicates that it does have debugging code.

[dead0]

FridgeTooFar, on Jun 5 2009, 12:56 PM, said:

We need a vlite thats been equipped to work with the windows 7 waik, thats why all this crap is happening, its compiling the image incorrectly I would guess, but since nuhi jumped ship, vlite doesnt do the most important task for me (remove IE) and yes I know W7 is not out but its nearly finished its at feature freeze and possible rtm and will be out on Oct 09, so we need something an alpha a beta something to work with.

you coud try removing some of the packages including internet explorer with dism (without installing waik 7) before you vlite? if you extract this batch file:

..into your sources folder, mount the image, you might need to change the image folder location in the batch file & run.
use this proggy created by BM wnuku with the /m switch first before you use the batch file


ps this works with x86 7201 build

This post has been edited by dead0: 05 June 2009 - 05:08 PM

[dead0]

liquid0624, on Jun 5 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

I took a screen shot of the power options in build 7201 that are completely weird i am just wondering if its like this because i am using a virtual machine for testing or if i removed something that has changed. Its not crash dump support causing this either tested that one. let me know what u guys think or if you have any ideas why its like this...

did you disable the power service in tweaks?

[liquid0624]

dead0, on Jun 5 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

liquid0624, on Jun 5 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

I took a screen shot of the power options in build 7201 that are completely weird i am just wondering if its like this because i am using a virtual machine for testing or if i removed something that has changed. Its not crash dump support causing this either tested that one. let me know what u guys think or if you have any ideas why its like this...

did you disable the power service in tweaks?

No i did not if you have a preset for 7201 x86 or x64 could u plz share it so i can compare thanks.

[dead0]

liquid0624, on Jun 5 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

dead0, on Jun 5 2009, 07:14 PM, said:

liquid0624, on Jun 5 2009, 02:10 PM, said:

I took a screen shot of the power options in build 7201 that are completely weird i am just wondering if its like this because i am using a virtual machine for testing or if i removed something that has changed. Its not crash dump support causing this either tested that one. let me know what u guys think or if you have any ideas why its like this...

did you disable the power service in tweaks?

No i did not if you have a preset for 7201 x86 or x64 could u plz share it so i can compare thanks.

here you go:

[liquid0624]

still working on trying to figure this one out next step is to install untouched x64 of b7201 and see if it is like that for the power options other then that everything else seems to work great with this build. Thanks for uploading your preset it did help i will be uploading some new ones possibly writing a guide soon as while.