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Which Windows os do u love?

#21 User is offline   the xt guy 

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 08:11 AM

While my favorite is Windows 98SE with 98SE2ME (and 98 lite applied to remove IE, OE, Active Desktop, Windows Update and tons of other oppressive, extraneous junk), I do use Win2K as well since I sometimes do video converting of VHS to DVD (Win 98 has a 4gb file size limitation.)

I'll never switch to XPee for too many reasons to list (product activation, Windows Genuine Disadvantage, Digital non-Rights Management and the fact that I cannot add any MS domains to the hosts file when using XP2 or later).

When I see how M$ has done all it can to force users away from 98SE to XP (for example, putting pressure on Intel not to write 98SE drivers for its later chipsets) it makes me want to stick with 98.

I'm glad there is still Win 2K and it's still receiving critical updates until June 2010!

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 09:18 AM

View Post-X-, on May 14 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

View PostXPDUDE777, on May 14 2009, 09:30 AM, said:

XP is fast but Windows 7 is definatly faster than vista and xp combined! :yes: :yes:
Not in my experience. - Windows XP SP2 outpaced Windows Vista SP1 and Windows 7 beta by leaps and bounds... - Windows 7 "Not Much Faster" Than Vista

As to which Windows version do I love?
I don't love any of them. Windows 98 was the least bloated but reliability sucked. I would pick Win2K as my favorite but I'm using XP due to some bugs.


Haha same.

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 02:12 PM

I would have to say Win7, its been very nice so far. But a previous OS would be 95.

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 01:16 PM

My favorite is Windows XP Home SP3. It's what Windows 98 SE should have been. Very stable and secure.

Windows 95 should have been the last DOS version of Windows. Windows 7 looks very promising though. MS seems to be geting it together finnaly and fixing up their bloatey code/removing legacy support barely anyone ever uses anymore.

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Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:31 AM

I'm a huge fan of win2k, recently i've started with XP and will be joining the XP clan soon... However I've also tried Vista, but I really hope M$ does a better job on Windows 7.

So till now my all time favorite OS is W2K Pro SP4, unfortunately a lot of apps are not supported anylonger so it's time to upgrade.. :D

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 09:36 AM

as most ppl here have said, win7

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 10:34 AM

windows 98/me is the best
only if they still supported it:(

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Posted 21 June 2009 - 09:37 PM

I've been with DOS since version 3.0, and slow to move to Windows. I did work with Windows 286 and 386, even OS/2 for a time, but Windows 95 was a big step forward (Windows NT at that time was too demanding for existing hardware). Windows 98 was better, but Me was a step backwards. We finally moved to Windows big time with version 2k, but it was hard to get it to recognize some of the hardware out there, so version 98 remained the favored version.

When they upgraded Windows 2k to Plug and Play, we went the other way increasingly, but patching 2k to give it the XP look and feel (making the new replacement for 2k) seemed unnecessary, so I stayed with 2k the longest, and still use it as a favorite. A limitation on 2k is that its installer does not recognize 48-LBA, so hard to install on large hard drives, and even harder to reinstall over a partition that somehow got corrupted. For all that, XP has been a better call.

My problem with XP is that I do a lot or hardware changes, and though I've had many PCs that came with XP installed, the whole verification, registration, and validation process of XP is a real irritant. Do more upgrades and enhancements, and you run the risk of causing your OS to turn on you. Now I find I have to fight VGA just to get an existing PC back up to speed when I do something major, like replace a video card, add more memory, replace the motherboard, or any of the things that i find beneficial or necessary. And with new PCs coming without the install CDs for the OS and other software, you want to try and prove that you have a legitimate right to what you bought and paid for? It just made me glad that i found Windows 2K so beneficial since you have none of the problems mentioned with that.

But that problem with Windows 2K installer not recognizing large hard drives or large partitions has made it increasingly difficult to work with, in the face of ever larger hard drives at real reasonable rates. See, I find it most useful to divide a large hard drive into multiple large partitions, then repeat the install of the OS and software on each. That way, if a certan partition fails to boot or shows other problems, I just boot instead to an alternate partition that does not have the same problems. It can greatly speed up efforts to get back up and running in an as short a time as possible.

So not long ago I began to revert to XP over 2K, because this limitation in 2K was getting the best of me and my time. As to Vista or Windows 7, I will let a newer and younger generation deal with those. What I am doing instead is moving some of my partitions to Ubuntu with VirtualBox on top, then install Windows 2K as a client. Almost ideal in many respects, and some surprising benefits as well. With a Windows client, you are a lot more secure from outside hacks and attacks, so less need to run protection software. Worth looking at.

But I always see a need for at least one standalone Windows parttiion, because there are tools in Windows that can be important to work with, and these become inactive or evasive when Windows is but a client. So which, 2K or XP?

Until recently, I was driven to think it would have to be XP. That is because of the continued limitations in getting 2K to set up, install, or repair with hard drives or partitions involved. But XP and WGA have pushed back too hard, and I decided that there had to be another way. How is it that the 2K installer does not recognize LBA, but the XP installer does? So I phrased some searches in Google, and was finally directed here. Seems like there is a way, but the posts on the subject are rather unclear on how to do it, sometimes saying something like "get this", and you are left wondering where to get it from, or how to use it?.

This is my first post here, and that is the reason I am back here, this time to register and to see if I can get a once and for all as to how to get the Windows 2K installer to begin with 48-bit LBA by initiating a key entry into the installer's version of the Registry, and anything else that needs to be dealt with as well. Inputs are welcomed.

Favorite Windows then? I would have to say 2K, with 32-bit XP close behind (except for WGA process), and Windows 98 if you want to go back to 16-bit addressing. But I find lots to appreciate about Ubuntu, especially with the melding of VirtualBox, because that works to give me even more flexibility as to OS and applications.

I'm just saying it the way I find it. If Windows wants to keep improving as a means to get future sales to replace what is already out there, then that is fine, as I then expect the competition to shoot at some new objectives as well. The worse thing about any version of Linux is that many vendors make little or no effort at producing suitable drivers for Linux, sometimes not even for the Mac OS, and in that area Windows tends to stay ahead. This is frequently regarded as a limiting factor when considering a move to Linux, but you might be surprised at the range of possible solutions or workarounds that people have come up with in this regard.

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 08:31 AM

oldefoxx, welcome. See this (most concise I could find) or any of the topics on the forum.

GL

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 10:58 AM

I appreciate the welcome and the links. I checked them out, but while they acknowledge the LBA issue with Windows 2K and XP, they also conclude that you must set up a partition that is less than 137 MB for your first install. Now there are a few problems with that: First, how are you to set up this partition if you do not already have some OS installed that gives you the ability to repartition and format the large hard drive? I mean, Windows does not come as a LiveCD in the manner that Linux Distros do, so the drive it sees is beyond its means to cope with. Second, if you somehow magically got one of the versions of Windows to install, then what happens when you attempt to reinstall or repair a failed version of Windows, because the installer again goes blind to the use of LBA in order to access the large hard drive properly?

And, in tracking this matter down, there were several references to a means of getting a copy of the Windows Installer CD modified slightly so that this and other problems were taken care of immediately when it was booted from. I'm just looking for clarification on what that entails and maybe some steps on how to do it. This could be a big benefit, as it would deal with both problems above at once.

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Posted 22 June 2009 - 11:25 AM

View Postoldefoxx, on Jun 22 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

I checked them out, but while they acknowledge the LBA issue with Windows 2K and XP, they also conclude that you must set up a partition that is less than 137 MB for your first install.


The link given by GrofLuigi:
http://smallvoid.com...lba-48-bit.html
actually concludes:

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if one need the recognize the large disk st setup time:
1) copy setupreg.hiv from the CD to another windows 2000 machine.
2) on that machine run regedt32.exe
3) select File ->Load hive
4) select the name you want ( for example: asdasd)
5) apply the above registry change to [asdasd\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Services \atapi \Parameters]
6) unload the hive.
7) create and Iso image of the install CD.
8) replace in that image the SETUPREG.HIV you edited.
9) burn the Iso image.

when boot from the burned CD, setup will recognize the CD correctly
and after install from that CD, there is not need to apply the above registry change


meaning that if you take a SP3+ (slipstreamed) and you modify it's SETUPREG.HIV adding to it a key:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SYSTEM \CurrentControlSet \Services \atapi \Parameters]
EnableBigLba = 1

the "bigger-than-137-Gb" drive should be recognized in TXT setup mode also.

I personally doubt that a CurrentControlSet is available on an offline hive, but you may want to try with ControlSet001. ;)

jaclaz

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 02:36 AM

I like Windows XP.. Need normal configuration.. User friendly.. faster than any versions of windows..ofcourse.. :thumbup :thumbup

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Posted 20 July 2009 - 04:57 AM

Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (with the Windows 2000 look). Best OS ever. Incredibly stable and reliable. Brilliant memory management, VERY fast.
Pretty sure I'll be using this next to Linux and ReactOS for a long d_mn time. To be perfectly honest, I don't understand the whole fancy-_ss 3D OS-stuff one iota. I never use all the cute screen things for anything, so I end up switching them off. I use my computers in a different way I guess; Not to show them off to people, not to make its screens look nice and flashy. I like purity, stability, reliability and speed. No useless time-wasting moving items on my screen that are in no way making it more productive for me.

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 05:12 AM

Windows 7 > Windows Vista > Windows XP and so on

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 08:06 AM

View Postneo, on Jul 25 2009, 07:12 AM, said:

Windows 7 > Windows Vista > Windows XP and so on

I agree

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:44 AM

View Postripken204, on Jul 25 2009, 04:06 PM, said:

I agree
I disagree.

Windows XP x64 Edition > Windows 7 > Windows 2000 > Windows Vista > Windows 98 and so on

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 10:42 AM

You guys don't have a clue what the best OS is.....Clearly it was Windows 1.0 which was released on November 20, 1985.

Get with the program! :ph34r:

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 01:11 PM

View PostXPerties, on Jul 29 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

You guys don't have a clue what the best OS is.....Clearly it was Windows 1.0 which was released on November 20, 1985.

Get with the program! :ph34r:


OHH... :blink: I thought it was BOB.... ;)
http://toastytech.com/guis/bob.html

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Posted 30 July 2009 - 04:39 PM

Windows vista sp2 x86 :-)

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Posted 10 August 2009 - 05:52 PM

"Love" may be a bit strong but what OS I prefer depends a lot on what I'm doing. I've got laptops & tablets here running DOS 6.22, Win95, Win98SE, or Win2K dependent on the machine and what I'm doing with it. This box running XP SP3 (which may become SP2 again) but it does a lot of stuff I don't want or need to do on the others.

There's no overkill, no underkill but rather it's all pretty much just right kill ... :-)

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