Seagate 7200.12: any issues?
Posted 13 June 2009 - 10:58 AM
In a quest for a fast (but silent) Hdd for my OS, I concluded that Seagate's ST3500418AS - 500GB on a single platter, 7200.12 series - is faster (as of June 2009) than their counterparts at my beloved Hitachi and Samsung, which have "only" 332GB per platter and perform less well on small files according to Atto.
But then, I have bad feelings about Seagate, whose 7200.11 series was botched.
So has anyone experience (failures, incompatibilities, bad firmware releases, bad batches, other worries...) with that disk or that series?
Posted 25 June 2009 - 03:21 PM
The model has 500GB per platter and rotates at 7200rpm (beware many competitors don't), giving a huge throughput of 134MB/s at contiguous read. Sizes that give this maximum throughput are 250GB (1 head), 500GB (1 platter), 750GB (3 heads) and 1TB (2 platters). The 250GB and 500GB are more silent and start more quickly; I suppose their arm is faster as well, though the specs are identical.
Seagate had issued a ST3500410AS and few weeks later the ST3500418AS. They are nearly identical, and some users even tell their disk with a ST3500418AS tag report as ST3500410AS in the Smart. The ST3500410AS is said to be a "low-halogen" product. There seems to be as well a small speed improvement in the ST3500418AS' arm speed: on Hd Tune's benchmark for access time, you see a cloud of points within a band whose thickness is one platter rotation period. The ST3500410AS had - from curves I found on the Net - quite a bit points over this band, corresponding to some seek attempts that took more time than most ones did, needing one platter rotation more. The ST3500418AS shows nearly none of these out-of-band points, neither on the Net nor in my measurements. According to Seagate's datasheet, the ST3500418AS make a bit more noise.
These disks are very silent. Nothing to do with the 8GB 5400rpm with ball bearings I had before from Seagate - the age of a disk design is more important for noise than the brand. Both the spindle and the arm are more silent than the J8080 = Hds721680plat80 and Hds721616plat80 I still use, which are already totally acceptable and better than the Sp0802n I enjoyed before. Well done!
Random access time is 2ms less good than for my J8080 = Hds721680plat80. Atto's performance is better nevertheless, including at small chunks. I didn't find how to set the AAM on this disk. Seatools has no setting for it, HdTune 3.50 shows one and allows the user to play with it, which even lits the Led for disk access, and this setting is memorized and given back by the disk, but it has no effect on speed nor noise. I will try with other means, but did someone ever achieve a difference? If not, I'll consider that the AAM is a functionless feature on the 7200.12.
Here are Atto's results, equally good on my Ich10r and on my Jmb36x, with the JMicron driver and the Infinst but without any Ahci not Stor driver, for 1 and 4 requests in the queue:
Number of downloads: 26 AttoAvecInfInstQ04.png (12.78K)
Number of downloads: 13
In the absence of the Infinst, results are minimally less good, except at 0.5kB where they jump to 13..16MB/s.
Such figures at Atto may be the best among any 7200rpm drive, but didn't give me the short boot time I hoped, probably because of the mobo.
Posted 15 August 2009 - 01:42 AM
It hang's on boot. In bios 0GB
from hdd terminal
Rst 0x10M (H) SATA Reset SSPSaveSettings SSPRestoreSettings No Phy: Staggered spin bypass (H) SATA Reset SSPSaveSettings SSPRestoreSettings Send Status: COMRESET seen ABORT! SenseCode = 03310000 ReadyStatusFlags = 0002A1A5 ABORT! SenseCode = 03310000 ReadyStatusFlags = 0002A1A5 ABORT! SenseCode = 03310000 ReadyStatusFlags = 0002A1A5
This post has been edited by barteklabedzki: 15 August 2009 - 01:47 AM
Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:08 AM
Now i'm on the newer 7200.12 version.
S/N : 5VM0SV16
The problem now is, it is able to be detected in BIOS. I'm using this as a secondary drive, so i can boot my OS. The only problem is, when i open My computer, it hangs and i can see that the hdd light is busy. Tried on external casing, same problem. "My Computer" hangs until i pull out the ext casing then only it'll recover.
Tried on Linux. Same problem, still cant open the partition.
I hope i can get some help from here. I have all the tools that is required to solve the problem encountered by 7200.11 series as i have done it before. Just wondering can i use the same way but just with different codes?
I really appreciate your help. I have really important, personal, financial, company and family data. Pleaasssseeeeeee help me.
Thanks a lot.
This post has been edited by dencorso: 09 December 2009 - 07:40 PM
Posted 08 October 2009 - 01:44 PM
It seems like you managed to load the WRONG firmware on your 7200.11 device.
Latest firmware for 7200.11 should be SD3B:
This post has been edited by jaclaz: 08 October 2009 - 01:44 PM
Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:24 PM
i think u got me wrong......
actually, i USED to have the 7200.11 drives. I had the same BSY problem as the rest of the world and i hav manage to fix it.
now, i bought more seagate drives which are from the 7200.12 family. and that's where all the problem's coming from. I havent do anything to this new 7200.12 drive yet as i do not know whether i can use the same way as 7200.11.
Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:50 AM
I read "upgraded" as "upgraded", instead of "threw away the old hard disk I revived and bought a new one, that is giving me problems as well"
It is very possible that the problem can be solved the same way, though I doubt that Seagate didn't correct the faulty testing procedure in factory.
I mean, it is possible that both symptoms and cure are the same, though I doubt that the illness is the same.
There is similar (but different) report here:
Posted 09 October 2009 - 05:43 PM
I just want to testify that my ST3500418AS - that is, exactly the same reference - works properly on my Ga-ep45-ud3r (P45 ich10r) with Bios F4 to F11, varied drivers and modes.
Did you already try another port, other cables, another host (from another chipset and computer for instance)?
And more important: what do Seatools tell?
Posted 14 November 2009 - 11:08 PM
First of all i am sorry about my bad english.İ hope i can explain my problem to you.
İ have a very bad problem.
My harddisk has gone like 7200.11 series.
İ cant see it in bios anymore.
i tried Gradius2 tutorial about how-to fix 0 LBA and BSY errors in forums.
But i cant successed.
i plug my harddisk with DKU-5 cable and opened hyperterminal on xp.
but i saw a error like this, below the photo;
i tried from the start of the tutorial about 20-25 times but same error appeared on screen.
can u help me please?
i dont want the hdd.i want photos.my family album in it.
its very important for me.
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 (ST3500418AS)
the disk is not affected by seagate but the result is same as the trouble with 7200.11 series.
Thanks for everything, sorry about my english again...
Posted 16 November 2009 - 03:38 PM
I tested my own pair of St3500418as with Seagate's tool
choose between floppy and Cd, download, burn, boot the Pc on it, test.
This is the most reliable test for a Seagate disk. Work on other brands as well.
Posted 16 November 2009 - 09:19 PM
Avant tout Merci beaucoup for your reply
i downloaded seatools, and burn it a cd, started pc with it.
program worked but didnt recognise the hard drive.
it says no hard drive installed.
the solution is one step ahead i think, but whats wrong?
Please help me
This post has been edited by Lago Chungará: 16 November 2009 - 09:23 PM
Posted 16 December 2009 - 08:43 AM
Posted 28 February 2010 - 12:49 PM
I have a Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS, firmware revision CC37, part num 9SL142-301 which abruptly became inaccessible for OS. I do have a dual-boot-System with Ubuntu 9.10 on Barracuda and Win-XP on another HDD. I used the Barracuda as a data storage disk w logic partition formatted as ntfs to get acess from Ubuntu and Win, but sadly, with no essential data backed up.
The problem is: when I run Ubuntu, suddenly my drive has gone, with no reason. At OS booting it was /dev/sda, now there is no /dev/sda anymore, but a /dev/sdc (/dev/sdb is the drive where the operating systems are). When I run Win-XP the disk erratically appears among BIOS registered devices with its full capacity, but in most boot-up attempts not. Win-XP sys logs shows numerous (up to 30-50 repeated records) I/O failures during disk paging operation (error 51) This is obviously a reaction of OS to a malfunctioned part of HDDs firmware responsible for translation of HDD sectors physical addresses to the system LBA.
Though Win-XP device manager indicates ST3500418AS device as working correctly, file explorer shows the logic disk as inaccessible media , does not suggest to format it and hangs up when I attempt to explore the volume.
Numerous HDD scan / data rescue tools I have tried up to test disk / recover information indicated ST350041-8AS as a completely bad disk with no file system on it. Seagate seatools diagnostic program for DOS ver 2.14 recognizes the faulty disk, but short test always proceeds to just 90 percent and is never finished.
So, in a hope the data on disk remains intact I am looking for feedback and problem solution. Does anybody think a replacement of PCB with the same FW revision taken off another 7200.12 ST3500418AS might solve the problem? Will the service info on the track 0 be automatically translated to the new CPU? I think, buying new HDD is at least less expensive than professional data recovery.
Posted 28 April 2010 - 04:23 AM
Sorry for my bad English!
I have a Seagate Barracuda HDD with the following specifications:
When I looked in the BIOS model, saw that my Seagate HDD was recognized as 0MB and 0LBA!!
I have tried with china PC 3000; with dku5
someone please help me?
I bought PC300 UDMA ACE subjects , who have contact
What is the command line for CC44 7200.12 ?
to 7200.11, but 7200.12 ?
On Terminal press CTRL + Z:
F3 T> / 2
F3 2> Z
User format partitions 5% complete, Area 00, Pass 00, LBA 00004339, 00000080 ErrCode, Time elapsed 05 seconds 0 minutes
Users successfully format the partition - 0 minutes 05 seconds time elapsed
someone please help me?
I do not know it, I NEED DATA . Can you help me ?
Y! : khoiphucdulieu
I do not know it, I NEED DATA . Can you help me ?
Y! : khoiphucdulieu
This post has been edited by cuudulieu: 09 May 2010 - 11:48 PM
Reason for edit: Removed unnecessary formatting.
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- Hard Drive and Removable Media issues
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